Build Systems & Change Management

This group is for the discussion of change management and build management strategies for Drupal. As Drupal is maturing, it's clear that from an ROI basis controlling the costs of change management will become a significant competitive and technological advantage that will drive Drupal forward in a big way. This group was set up to discuss strategies for successfully managing change, including technical components.

What is biggest drupal project you have ever managed ? (size in man-days)

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Julien Marboutin - Fri, 2008-09-12 23:06
Less than 50 man-days
26% (5 votes)
Between 50 man-days and 200 man-days
16% (3 votes)
Between 200 and 1000 man-days
37% (7 votes)
More than 1000 man-days
21% (4 votes)
Total votes: 19

Drupal as a Sourceforge clone?

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stodge@drupal.org - Wed, 2008-08-27 18:33

I'm investigating Drupal as an internal Sourceforge alternative. I'm having trouble understanding how the Project Manager works with issues and subversion repositories. Is there any GOOD documentation that explains how to the PM module/Drupal interact with repositories?

I'm familiar with Trac or GForge, where a project is directly tied to a specific repository and any commits you make against a specific issue are added to that ticket.

Post your proposed session for DrupalCampLA 2008

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Chris Charlton - Fri, 2008-08-22 16:27

This is easy and quick, nothing fancy, no voting - just post your session idea (title) and your name/contact info and show up to present that day! We have sessions open from 10am-2pm each day (Saturday and Sunday) and each session should plan for 45 minutes each.

http://groups.drupal.org/node/12528 (edit wiki page)

If you can't see or edit the wiki page, be sure to join our group which may be required for editing the wiki page.


Drupalcon Szeged hosting best practices: development, staging, deployment

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If you are interested in participating in a panel on Drupal infrastructure, development environments, deployment, and best practices please indicate what you are interested in presenting. I am hoping to get some experts in best practices to do a tutorial.

Selenium and Drupal

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Souvent22@drupal.org - Sat, 2008-05-03 16:03

First, for those that don't want to read the full post, here's the "30-second elevator speech":
This post to to discuss using Seleinum with Drupal. Specifically using Maven to run the selenium tests and writing the Selenium tests in Java.
The example code be downloaded from the Workhabit Inc. public repository here: https://svn.workhabit.com/svn/public/drupal/selenium/trunk
One must have the following installed to run:
1. Firefox
2. Java 1.5+
3. Maven
All 3 are easy to install and aquire. Once you download the code from the repository, you can just navigate to the directory and run:

DEADLINE FRIDAY: Include Drupal 6.x in Open Solaris

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Amazon - Thu, 2008-04-17 15:16

If you are interested in seeing Drupal, and in particular a specific profile be included in OpenSolaris, Friday is the deadline for the next meeting.

Submit your comments here:

http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa;jsessionid=2A66929A74E346D56...


Keeping Blocks in Synch

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liberatr@drupal.org - Tue, 2008-04-15 22:08

Hey folks,

I've worked on a number of Drupal sites where we needed to keep multiple sites in synch, and Drupal has been a challenge to keep that way because so many options are changed through the UI - this tends to show its weakness when we want to keep the settings across all sites (don't even mention content). Moving content types and views is easy with the import/export tools, but blocks are another story. The visibility rules, Roles, and input formats all require your time and attention to detail - time you could be spending working on other features.


A Deployment Framework

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heyrocker - Sat, 2008-02-23 20:50

I have been working on a framework that attempts to address some of the issues of deploying code and data in Drupal. It is outlined here:

http://heyrocker.com/drupal/content/deployment-and-change-management-fra...

I'd love to hear people's thoughts on this.

Deployment and Change Management - The Problem

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Amazon - Fri, 2008-02-08 15:37

Written by Heyrocker.

I had been hoping to get together with people at Drupalcon this year to discuss issues surrounding deployment and change management. Unfortunately I will not be able to go. So this will have to act as my contribution to that discussion, which will hopefully carry on well beyond Boston. There are three parts - The Problem, Things That Help Now, and Some Ideas For The Future.


Drupalcon Tutorial: Best practices in development environments, staging, build management, and production environments

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Tutorial Panel, 90 minutes:

Presenters (Panelists)

  • Narayan Newton (OSUOSL)
  • Milind Parikh (IBM)
  • Sam Tresler (Advomatic)
  • Eric Mandel (BlackMesh)
  • Neil Giarratana (Lucidus Corporation)
    (Note that I have only included panelists who have been involved in the conversation for this presentation. There may be others interested or with whom I have not personally interacted with; this is not meant to be a slight...just giving the list as I knew it. NG)

Track

Site Building

Session Description

Drupalcon Boston brainstorming session?

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heyrocker - Wed, 2008-01-23 15:07

Is anyone interesting in having a brainstorming session on deployment and change/build management at Drupalcon Boston? This could either be an officially submitted proposal with an open agenda, or an unofficial get together in a side room at the conference center. It seems like a lot of us are struggling with enterprise-level deployment issues, and getting a bunch of smart and interested people in a room talking about their own solutions and brainstorming new ones would be useful for everyone. We all have our own ways of handling it and I'd love to hear other people's ideas.

Can D7 handle enterprise-level change management features?

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Senpai - Sat, 2007-12-01 20:46

Now that Dries has concocted a business model that leverages core, I wonder if this is a good time to begin talking in earnest about making D7 into a manageable, upgradeable system with built-in change management features? Dries is one of only a few people with core commit privs in CVS, and as such, he's now perfectly positioned to listen and act on revisions to core that would make everyone's lives easier, but especially his new company's options or desires.

There's a need for small changes to Drupal that allow big business to leverage it to create and manage a system while being able to upgrade that system in a live setting.


Why can't we just ignore the nid?

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Senpai - Fri, 2007-10-26 21:56

We're all building sites that have functionality based upon the nid, right? Why can't we break out of that mold of doing nodeapi adjustments to certain nodes based upon a sequentially incrementing number, and try to use something like auto_nodetitle.module to trigger from?

I'm envisioning a scenario like the one posed by jmburnz on http://drupal.org/node/140430#comment-227293 where he says:

A fair amount of content was added to the dev site before it was branched and went live (enough to populate each site section). At times I've needed some additional test content - that is no problem as I can just create it without worrying about what is going over on the live site.
We have used vids, tids & nids as you describe, but these were all set in stone before the site went live.

Well, kidlets, what happens when your node->nid isn't the same on both the live and dev server?


10 min video clip from DrupalCampLA

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Senpai - Mon, 2007-09-24 18:50

http://www.bryght.com/blog/roland-tanglao/10-minutes-on-drupal-deploymen... has an excerpt from a really great discussion that ensued at DrupalCampLA during Firebright's dissertation on how hard it really is to properly upgrade the featureset on a Drupal site that's live and active.


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