08:42 testing124 has joined (62f75ac4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.247.90.196) 08:42 testing124 has left IRC (Client Quit) 08:43 jhodgdon has joined (~jhodgdon@c-98-247-90-196.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 08:45 webchick has left IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 08:48 dianalakatos has joined (~dianalaka@92-249-156-68.pool.digikabel.hu) 08:49 scor has joined (~scor@drupal.org/user/52142/view) 08:50 tsvenson has joined (~tsvenson2@c-97a571d5.04-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 08:50 Gdunham has joined (c7f7bff5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.247.191.245) 08:50 teachyourselfdru has joined (~marc@184-96-76-135.hlrn.qwest.net) 08:53 cat_omega has joined (~cat_omega@69.172.149.172) 08:54 ambermatz: 5 minutes until D8 Manual project bi-weekly meeting 09:00 ambermatz: Hello and welcome to the D8 Manual bi-weekly meeting! 09:01 ambermatz: During the next 30 minutes, members of the D8 Manual project team will be here to help you get started with a topic to write, create an issue, and find instructions. 09:01 ambermatz: You might want to start out by taking a look at the outline, which currently lives here: https://userguide-drupal.redesign.devdrupal.org/d8guide/en/index.html 09:02 ambermatz: But first, hello! Does anyone have any questions they want to raise during this meeting? 09:02 eojthebrave_: Good morning! 09:02 Druplicon: Is there any tea on this spaceship? 09:02 eojthebrave_ is now known as eojthebrave 09:02 teachyourselfdru: ambermatz: Looks like there is authentication required to get to that doc? 09:03 eojthebrave: the user/pass is drupal / drupal 09:03 waako is now known as waako|zzz 09:03 jhodgdon: Hi! 09:03 eojthebrave: That's in place for now just to keep google et al. from indexing it. 09:03 teachyourselfdru: eojthebrave: Thanks! I'm in. 09:03 eojthebrave: teachyourselfdru: awesome 09:04 teachyourselfdru: eojthebrave: Yeah, I figured it was just to keep the bots out. 09:04 Les_Lim: I'm here and lurking! I'm on a deadline, though, so I'm not actually working on the user guide at the moment. 09:04 jhodgdon: I got an email message back from one of the people I sent our form letter to yesterday. She was confused about the tracking spreadsheet. I added some notes there to hopefully make it clearer that to claim a task, you make an issue and assign it to yourself 09:04 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: it's a temporary site. We're trying to get a permanent site... hasn't happened yet 09:04 teachyourselfdru: jhodgdon: NP 09:04 teachyourselfdru: So, to introduce myself, I'm AKA vegantriathlete 09:04 jhodgdon: ah 09:05 teachyourselfdru: Since the teachyourselfdrupal nick gets cut off, I'll probably be using tydrupal 09:05 jhodgdon: it's always confusing when people have different drupal.org user names and IRC nicks 09:05 eojthebrave: Related to that, I had a good conversation with tvn and some of other D.O working groups and the "figure out how/where to display" the guide is near the top of the priority list right now, which is good. 09:05 jhodgdon: oh great! 09:05 ambermatz: cool! 09:05 teachyourselfdru: jhodgdon: I've got a d.o. account with teachyourselfdrupal 09:05 ambermatz: Also, for newcomers, the User Guide project lives here: https://www.drupal.org/project/user_guide 09:05 teachyourselfdru: jhodgdon: I've also got my vegantriathlete 09:06 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: ah, two accounts 09:06 teachyourselfdru: But, for purposes of working on the documentation, I'll be using my teachyourselfdrupal d.o. account 09:06 teachyourselfdru: jhodgdon: Actually, I've got three - vegantriathlete, teachyourselfdrupal and tydrupal 09:06 Gdunham: I plan to jump in next week. Been away and need to tidy things up. 09:06 teachyourselfdru: vegantriathlete is my personal account 09:07 teachyourselfdru: teachyourselfdrupal is my business account 09:07 teachyourselfdru: tydrupal is just to make sure that I grabbed the d.o. account that matches my twitter handle. 09:07 dianalakatos: Hi all! I'm Diana Lakatos from Pronovix, and we are working on an end user guide for D8 with DripDocs. Kelly O'Brien, Kristof van Tomme and Laura Vass are also members of this team. We would like to write it so that the two docs are in synch style and structure-wise. 09:07 eojthebrave: Gdunham: awesome. Right now we only have these formal IRC meetings every 2x weeks. But, feel free to ping ambermatz jhodgdon or myself if you need help getting started at all once you've got some time. 09:07 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: hm. 09:08 teachyourselfdru: I, too, will need to free up a bit more time before I actually jump into helping out with the manual 09:08 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: we have our outline online https://userguide-drupal.redesign.devdrupal.org/d8guide/en/index.html 09:08 Gdunham: I have a Drupal 8 installed to a dreamhost server. 09:08 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: but why have two guides? 09:08 teachyourselfdru: But, I wanted to at least make it to my first meeting and introduce myself 09:08 teachyourselfdru: I had assumed that there was an agenda we were going to run through 09:08 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: :((((( I thought kristof and you wanted to help with the open guide? 09:09 jhodgdon: Gdunham: sounds good! You can also use simplytest.me 09:09 ambermatz: teachyourselfdru: today's agenda is helping folks find a topic to write and answer any questions. 09:09 teachyourselfdru: ambermatz: That's fair enough. 09:09 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: we are having these meetings to see if people (a) want to get assigned a topic and ... what ambermatz said. ;) 09:09 ambermatz: more of an "office hours" format for today 09:09 teachyourselfdru: ambermatz: jhodgdon: Got it! 09:09 jhodgdon: maybe we should change the name of the bi-weekly meeting to bi-weekly office hours and troubleshooting ;) 09:09 jhodgdon: and mentoring 09:10 teachyourselfdru: I don't think I should grab a topic until I know I can commit time to doing the writing 09:10 ambermatz: I think that's a good idea 09:10 ambermatz: teachyourselfdru: that's great. 09:10 dianalakatos: jhodgdon: We thought this guide would be for site builders and as there were many people helping out, we figured it would be more useful if our team wrote a guide for editors. Or do you think it would complicate things? 09:10 teachyourselfdru: Okay. Well, nice to "meet" you. 09:11 ambermatz: teachyourselfdru: are you on the email list? 09:11 teachyourselfdru: I think from now on, I'll use the tydrupal nick when I sign in to IRC. 09:11 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: a guide for editors? 09:11 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: well you do what you want... 09:11 teachyourselfdru: ambermatz: I'm part of the g.d.o. doc group under my vegantriathlete d.o. account 09:11 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: but it would be great if your team wanted to write some topics for the general guide 09:11 Chris______ has joined (32aba98f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.171.169.143) 09:11 ambermatz: dianalakatos: it seems confusing to have two guides. I agree with jhodgdon that it would be great to have your team pick out topics for the general guide. 09:11 jhodgdon: dianalakatos: kristof had indicated you were going to, but that's OK if you want to do something else entirely. 09:12 Chris______ has left () 09:12 teachyourselfdru: ambermatz: Is that what you mean by the email list? 09:12 ambermatz: teachyourselfdru: we have a google groups email list as well. looking for the link... 09:12 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: we have an email list on google groups 09:12 ambermatz: :) 09:12 jhodgdon: https://userguide-drupal.redesign.devdrupal.org/guidelines/management.html 09:13 jhodgdon: has links to various communications channels including the email list 09:13 ambermatz: ah there it is, thanks! 09:13 jhodgdon: https://groups.google.com/d/forum/d8manual is the email list 09:14 dianalakatos: jhodgdon: It's good that we could clarify what's needed, I will discuss it with Kristof and the team and get back to you! 09:14 teachyourselfdru: Ah, well that doc says to join the list contact one of the managers. 09:14 teachyourselfdru: Do you want me to post my email address right here or do you want me to PM it? 09:14 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: um 09:14 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: I think you can go to that link and request to join; I'll update the instructions later 09:14 jhodgdon: sorry about that! 09:14 jhodgdon: or you can pm me your email and I'll add you 09:17 ambermatz: Regarding picking a topic and creating an issue...do that when you're ready and have time to write. Issues that are untouched for two weeks will be considered "up for grabs" so that we can keep things progressing. make sense? 09:17 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: did you put in a join request on the list? 09:17 Chris_Dart has joined (32aba98f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.171.169.143) 09:17 eojthebrave: dianalakatos: if you've got questions at all about our plans please reach out, even if we do end up going two different routes I think it's in everyone's best interest to share whatever info/resources we can. Same goes for if you have thoughts about how we might be able to work together with whatever your plans end up being as well I know I would be interested in hearing them! Thanks! 09:18 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: I'm curious as to whether that works; I assume so since we've gotten join requests in the past, but want to know before I update the instructions... 09:18 teachyourselfdru: jhodgdon: Just finished completing the application form. 09:18 jhodgdon: good 09:18 teachyourselfdru: jhodgdon: I had to "pass the test" in the application process 09:18 jhodgdon: ah 09:18 jhodgdon: teachyourselfdru: approved! 09:19 teachyourselfdru: jhodgdon: I was filling out the answers to the two questions. 09:19 jhodgdon: do you think we should remove those? 09:19 dianalakatos: eojthebrave: Thanks, we will do so! 09:20 eojthebrave: yay :) 09:20 teachyourselfdru: Okay, I see that the group now appears in My Groups 09:21 ambermatz: woot! 09:21 Druplicon: \o/ ^o^