[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: HEYHO
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the meeting?
[6:01pm] eiriksm: GaborHojtsy: hey, i am for a short while
[6:02pm] jhodgdon: here
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib, eiriksm, hchonov, jhodgdon, Patrick_Storey, penyaskito, Schnitzel, sebcorbin, Sutharsan, webflo, YesCT: hi all meeting?
[6:02pm] sebcorbin: GaborHojtsy: I have to go in 15mn
[6:02pm] Druplicon: sebcorbin: 1 day 8 hours ago <GaborHojtsy> tell sebcorbin ping
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: quick announcements then :)
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: barcelona?
[6:02pm] Druplicon: barcelona is DrupalCon Barcelona, 21-25 Sept 2015 | https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015 | Sprints Sept 19-27. Sprint signup: http://bit.ly/sprintBarcelona | Extended sprint info: https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015/sprints | In the meantime, enjoy the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHG6e3P4eQ8
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: sign up people! :)
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: wanna go first?
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[6:03pm] sebcorbin: GaborHojtsy: I don’t anything except I have the co-session accepted :)
[6:04pm] sebcorbin: i.e. https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015/sessions/bring-drupal-8-all-their-native-languages
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: yay indeed :)
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: also the two of us have been working with the DA on the D7 l.d.o port
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin++
[6:04pm] sebcorbin: I’ll try to attend the extended sprints, but not sure yet, will definitely sprint during the conf
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: issue for l.d.o D7
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: at https://www.drupal.org/node/2487972
[6:05pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2487972 => [META] Results of testing localize.drupal.org on Drupal 7 in summer 2015 [#2487972] => 43 comments, 7 IRC mentions
[6:06pm] jhodgdon: is localize.d.o still running D6?
[6:06pm] jhodgdon: wow.
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: yup
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[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: also https://groups.drupal.org/CHANGELOG.txt
[6:07pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: ah.
[6:07pm] sebcorbin: GaborHojtsy: looking at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1znlTq3gcmoBzknaWdnakZdW41kAobzpwmdI3HS9444g/edit#gid=0 are you planning a l10n related sprint ?
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[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: would be great to have people/organizations with a priority to port these sites, it would be faster :D
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: that is translating D8?
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[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: I think that would be an AMAZING spint category yes
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: especially if thre would be someone to help figure things out on the site if there are questions, eg. if you are interested :)
[6:08pm] sebcorbin: GaborHojtsy: yup, I will be available
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin++
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: wanna start a category for that?
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[6:09pm] sebcorbin: yeah sure
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: cool
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm: still here? wanna go next?
[6:10pm] sebcorbin: GaborHojtsy: although the program will be directly related to the result of LDO testing
[6:10pm] eiriksm: GaborHojtsy: sure
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin: well, I hope the site is ported by then
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[6:11pm] eiriksm: ok. so i was sitting down with this issue for a while this weekend, but got nowhere: https://www.drupal.org/node/2462279
[6:11pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2462279 => Not able to create menu link to the frontpage of other languages [#2462279] => 24 comments, 10 IRC mentions
[6:12pm] eiriksm: Now, goign from the last suggestion, since i don't know every inner working, i am also not sure of the semantics involved in validating the form in question. should it be a validation error on the entity or the form for example?
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm: on the form IMHO
[6:13pm] eiriksm: ok, so if we have multiple languages, and if the path will resolve to "something else", then trigger validation error?
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm: yeah if the link resolved in another language it should IMHO because menus don’t support that ATM
[6:16pm] eiriksm: GaborHojtsy: OK, i'll see what I can whip up. Also, i noticed this was actually the behavior in Drupal 7. If you enter /en/node it says it is an invalid path
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm: yeah it makes sense :)
[6:17pm] eiriksm: ok. thanks, that was all multilingual i have done in the last week :)
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm: would also make sense to support it, but that is a whole can of worms, so long as its not supported, it should say so
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm++
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: wanna go next? :)
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: sure!
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[6:18pm] jhodgdon: Views in D8MI weekly report:
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2393339 still has two outstanding issues (down to two!!):
[6:18pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2393339 => [META] Make sure Views base fields are using Field API for formatting, and do not lose functionality [#2393339] => 72 comments, 28 IRC mentions
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 and https://www.drupal.org/node/2455125
[6:18pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 => Number formatters: Make it possible to configure format_plural on the formatter level [#2449597] => 104 comments, 14 IRC mentions
[6:18pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2455125 => Update EntityViewsData use of generic timestamp to use Field API formatter [#2455125] => 79 comments, 20 IRC mentions
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: that second one was RTBC but I put it back to needs work due to upgrade path; maybe it doesn't need to be though? I am unsure about this.
[6:19pm] sebcorbin: (gotta go)
[6:19pm] sebcorbin: GaborHojtsy++
[6:19pm] sebcorbin: GaborHojtsy++
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: but in this case I think it is an upgrade path issue, because views need to have their formatters changed in the config for those fields
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: then the other views issues have to do with the bulk operations views: https://www.drupal.org/node/2473989 and https://www.drupal.org/node/2476563
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2473989 => Lack of dynamic language field / filter makes shipping core views hard to be both compatible with mono and multilingual [#2473989] => 61 comments, 18 IRC mentions
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2476563 => Entity operations links tied to original entity language, ignore everything else [#2476563] => 55 comments, 14 IRC mentions
[6:20pm] jhodgdon: there is active work on all 4 of those issues
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[6:20pm] jhodgdon: I am reviewing
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: hm, I am not sure how 2455125 can provide an upgrade path, its about using the field plugin instead of the date plugin
[6:20pm] jhodgdon: And.... the first sprint on the user manual went pretty well on Sunday! People wrote topics and we're having a participant meeting tomorrow if anyone is interesting
[6:20pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: I have no idea.
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: it does not remove the date plugin, so all existing views are fine as is
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: new installs will get benefits of the field plugin
[6:21pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: no they are not fine as they are, because the EntityViewsData says to use the new plugin
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: updating existing default config as active on the site is dangerous because people may have removed or reconfigured it
[6:21pm] jhodgdon: well maybe we should just mark it back to RTBC and hope it gets committed?
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: oh, right so regardless of the plugin_id it will use the new one, right
[6:22pm] jhodgdon: I think so
[6:22pm] jhodgdon: it's a bit mysterious to me
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: I think thats the realm of impossibility of how active config may have changed and how we are not supposed to touch it anymore vs. how the entitiy views data change is enforced even on active config
[6:22pm] jhodgdon: ok
[6:22pm] jhodgdon: well I'll go ahead and mark that back to RTBC then.
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: I would say its RTBC with that caveat :D
[6:22pm] jhodgdon: ok
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[6:23pm] jhodgdon: anyway that is all from here. Watch https://groups.drupal.org/documentation if you are interested in the User Guide project
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: yay on the user manual
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: huge thanks for doing that :)
[6:23pm] jhodgdon: it has been very exciting and fun!
[6:24pm] jhodgdon: so far
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: wanna go next?
[6:24pm] jhodgdon: just getting started really
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[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: no, well, then YesCT? :)
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: ha, no then Patrick_Storey?
[6:29pm] Patrick_Storey: Nothing to report other than, if anyone is going to the New York Camp, please sign up for the sprints here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kEU0o1pA-RS3uyeIOPN91qYmgFPA6i17HeTXB3dtwn4/edit#gid=0
[6:30pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: oh, just got off the Working Group call.
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[6:30pm] YesCT: Patrick_Storey: we need to talk about the novice task triaging.
[6:30pm] YesCT: :)
[6:30pm] YesCT: I have a ping from franSeva about an issue.
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[6:31pm] Patrick_Storey: YesCT: Cool, I’ll be free after this meeting if that works for you.
[6:31pm] YesCT: I'm feeling a lot of need to focus on criticals so I might try and stick with the safe markup meta for a bit. unless pinged for anything else specific.
[6:31pm] YesCT: Patrick_Storey: it does.
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey: YesCT: those make a lot of sense :) also overlapping with D8MI in several places
[6:32pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: is there anything release blocking about localize that has come up lately?
[6:33pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: yep. there are a few of the SafeMarkup with D8MI tag on them.
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: that requires pretty specialized tools to fix, so would not give to novices
[6:34pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: the DA was asking if there were any specific things to change about d.o that would help speed d8 release.
[6:34pm] YesCT: testbot was one answer.
[6:34pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah l.d.o port is a D8 blocker, but I assume so g.d.o port
[6:38pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: they are already aware of the details and sebcorbin and I are working with opdavies from the DA
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[6:38pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: ok. so nothing new to pass along.
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: nope
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey: I opened https://www.drupal.org/node/2516450 which may be as easy as 11 was
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2516450 => Update to Drupal 8 beta 12 [#2516450] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey: not sure if you can help with that? :)
[6:40pm] Patrick_Storey: GaborHojtsy: will do.
[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey: also any other news about NYCamp?
[6:40pm] Patrick_Storey: GaborHojtsy: Not yet, they’re starting planning meetings this week so I expect they’ll be able to nail down dates soon and things will start speeding up.
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey: ok
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: who else did I miss for the meeting?
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: no plach, reyero, mkalkbrenner and hchonov left before I managed to ask them :)
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: for the usual suspects that is...
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: Schnitzel: around?
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, well, then :)
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: done early for once
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks all for coming :)
[6:48pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy++
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[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon##
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey++
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: sebcorbin++
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm++
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[6:55pm] penyaskito: sorry, I was not around
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[6:57pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: nothing to report however, but will be sprinting in NYC :)
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: that’s great
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++