[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: HI ALL
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the D8MI meeting?
[6:02pm] jhodgdon: here!
[6:02pm] tstoeckler: despite what I said early, I'm here
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib, eiriksm, hchonov, jhodgdon, kristen_pol, Patrick_Storey, penyaskito, sebcorbin, tstoeckler, vijaycs85, webflo, YesCT: hi all!
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[6:03pm] kristen_pol: hi… (in a meeting until 9:30am but will try to read this too)
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: so announcements!
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: barcelona?
[6:04pm] Druplicon: barcelona is DrupalCon Barcelona, 21-25 Sept 2015 | https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015 | Sprints Sept 19-27. Sprint signup: http://bit.ly/sprintBarcelona | Extended sprint info: https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015/sprints | In the meantime, enjoy the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHG6e3P4eQ8
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: of course ;)
[6:04pm] hchonov: hi
[6:04pm] Druplicon: what's up
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: although for that song, I think the locals would not want to hear it for a while :D
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: (I heard they heard it enough when preparing the announcement ;)
[6:05pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: hey
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: and for the sheet, we have 15 people, which is amazing
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: we’ll have lots of fun :)
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: that’s it for announcements :)
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: wanna start?
[6:07pm] jhodgdon: sure!
[6:07pm] jhodgdon: So, good news first: https://www.drupal.org/node/2455125 has been RTBC for about a week. Hopefully it will get committed soon.
[6:07pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2455125 => Update EntityViewsData use of generic timestamp to use Field API formatter [#2455125] => 125 comments, 33 IRC mentions
[6:08pm] jhodgdon: I did some work this week also on https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 and I think that patch is probably ready to go except for a mulitlingual test
[6:08pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 => Number formatters: Make it possible to configure format_plural on the formatter level [#2449597] => 130 comments, 20 IRC mentions
[6:08pm] jhodgdon: but I ran into some problems in the multilingual test... like, how do you translate the field formatter settings in an entity view mode?
[6:08pm] jhodgdon: I do not think this is possible but wanted to ask around (like, here) before I filed a critical bug
[6:08pm] jhodgdon: at least I think it is critical if there is config that you cannot translate?
[6:09pm] jhodgdon: at least Major
[6:09pm] jhodgdon: Then I also ran into some misuses of formatPlural(), and those are on https://www.drupal.org/node/2545730
[6:09pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2545730 => Prefix/suffix setting for Numeric fields is set up completely wrong for translations [#2545730] => 2 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:09pm] jhodgdon: this made me sad
[6:10pm] jhodgdon: Any thoughts on translating the field formatter settings on entity view modes? I do not think that the Config Translation module supports doing that, but I'd love to be wrong. If I'm right I'll file an issue ...
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[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: yeah I would look at where is that setting stored
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: did not haev time to look at the tgy
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: tgz that is
[6:11pm] jhodgdon: It is stored in a separate yml apart from the entity view mode
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: the silly plural formats are a good catch indeed
[6:11pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: yeah that is the entity form display
[6:11pm] jhodgdon: tstoeckler: waht is the entity form display?
[6:12pm] jhodgdon: tstoeckler: are you talking about the translation problem or the formatPlural problem?
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[6:12pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: the thing that holds the widget settings. I meant the translation problem. or it's the entity view display if we're talking about formatters
[6:12pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: both entity form displays and entity view modes store the form/view mode as one config object, and the fields on them in separate config objects
[6:13pm] jhodgdon: right, the formatters/widget settings are stored separately but I cannot see a way to translate them in Config Translation module
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: so in your tgz core.entity_view_display.node.number_test.default.yml has the settings
[6:13pm] jhodgdon: Anyway I guess I will file an issue. The worst that would happen is I look foolish when someone points out my error
[6:14pm] jhodgdon: :)
[6:14pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon: No, we cannot currently translate in the UI, because they do not have a normal edit-form link
[6:14pm] jhodgdon: tstoeckler: well that is a serious problem.
[6:14pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon: yes, that's true.
[6:14pm] jhodgdon: we cannot have config that we cannot translate
[6:14pm] jhodgdon: ok I will file an issue
[6:14pm] jhodgdon: for sure
[6:14pm] tstoeckler: awesome
[6:14pm] jhodgdon: that is all I have to report today. Finding more bugs than I fix I guess.
[6:14pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon++
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: field.formatter.settings.[%parent.type] is their settings
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: so in your case field.formatter.settings.number_integer
[6:15pm] jhodgdon: right
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[6:15pm] jhodgdon: you cannot translate them.
[6:15pm] jhodgdon: tstoeckler++
[6:15pm] tstoeckler: GaborHojtsy: that is the schema type, but not where the actual settings get stored
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[6:16pm] jhodgdon: tstoeckler: thanks for explaining why they cannot be translated. If config_translation relies on there being an edit form for the config then there are probably other things that cannot be translated. Probably they should be translated along with the view mode, which does have an edit form?
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: anyway.
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon:  tstoeckler: well, in jhodgdon’s dump that is where
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: not sure of the solution but it is a problem.
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: ok let's move on. ;)
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: so your patch modifies field.formatter.settings.number_integer which should make it translatable according to the schema, so all is missing is indeed the UI not hooked up
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: I'll file the issue and post a link here in a few minutes during someone else's report
[6:16pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon: well the view mode is separate from the view display. what we have to do is provide explicit integration for this, just like we do for fields
[6:16pm] tstoeckler: awesome
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: right the UI doesn't exist GaborHojtsy that is the bug
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: ok, we need an issue for it definitely
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[6:18pm] jhodgdon: creating now GaborHojtsy
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: my report is done
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: wanna go next?
[6:20pm] tstoeckler: sure
[6:20pm] tstoeckler: I don't have anything to report, sadly :-/
[6:20pm] tstoeckler: well, I just did a review on https://www.drupal.org/node/2488568 that counts I guess
[6:20pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2488568 => Add a TypedDataManagerInterface and use it for typed parameters [#2488568] => 32 comments, 15 IRC mentions
[6:21pm] tstoeckler: that needs confirmation from reyero for the latest changes and then it's RTBC IMO
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: DEFINITELY count
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: s
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: :)
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler++
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: also, np either way :)
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[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov: wanna go next?
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[6:23pm] hchonov: GaborHojtsy: not so much to say…
[6:23pm] hchonov: https://www.drupal.org/node/2542762 got commited, thanks to plach
[6:23pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2542762 => hook_entity_type_update doesn't get the entity in the new revision after addTranslation and setNewRevision [#2542762] => 18 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:23pm] hchonov: and after the problem with cloning new translations got fixed we have a new problem which at least is not critical -> https://www.drupal.org/node/2543258
[6:23pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2543258 => Entity references of untranslatable fields are not displayed in the correct  translation [#2543258] => 12 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:24pm] hchonov: when I have more time going to work more on that one :)
[6:24pm] hchonov: done ;)
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov: yeah congrats on 2542762, great seeing the nice progress in this area
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov++
[6:25pm] hchonov: GaborHojtsy++
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: mkalkbrenner++
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
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[6:25pm] hchonov: thanks :)
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov: go, go! :) :)
[6:25pm] hchonov: hehehe
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: wanna go next?
[6:26pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: sure, I don't really spent anytime this week :( though I have https://www.drupal.org/node/2537042 and https://www.drupal.org/node/2403229 on my todo list for a while now...
[6:26pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2537042 => [meta] Make t() more lazy [#2537042] => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:26pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2403229 => language.negotiation configuration can have overrides bleed in [#2403229] => 30 comments, 7 IRC mentions
[6:26pm] vijaycs85: didn't*
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: yeah, no problem at all
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: sorry I did not manage to collaborate with you yet on our DrupalCon session either :D
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: the thing is the hack contest we launched for it resulted in exactly 0 submissions LOL
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: cc kristen_pol
[6:29pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy:  :(
[6:29pm] penyaskito: :(
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: I think we could have relaunched that with much better results, I had some more ideas for it, BUT since I need to present the hacks session in 2 days...
[6:29pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: I sent to few people I know... :(
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: I am building out my own ideas for now for it :)
[6:29pm] kristen_pol: :(
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: we should review what I had at Drupalaton after Drupalaton
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: should have feedback on what worked and what not
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: I think I came up with some funky stuff :D
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: found some bugs at the real funky places, eg. https://www.drupal.org/node/2546116
[6:30pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: nice...
[6:30pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546116 => You can add a review, opinion, greeting, etc. comment type but not change the "Add new comment" text [#2546116] => 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: and https://www.drupal.org/node/2546210
[6:32pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546210 => Langcode filter raw value is converted to a number in views [#2546210] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: well, not filter but field
[6:33pm] jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212 is the issue for the field translation problems sorry to interrupt
[6:33pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212 => Entity view/form mode field settings, and base field settings, have no translation UI [#2546212] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: retitled mine to “Langcode field raw placeholder value (for rewriting output) is converted to a number in views”
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: thanks
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: so those two issues you listed would still be great to look at IF you have the time
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: wanna go next?
[6:36pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: sure, I will try..
[6:36pm] jhodgdon: Do we need to look around for other config that cannot be translated?
[6:36pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy++
[6:37pm] kristen_pol: hi
[6:37pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon: I don't think so. But it's hard to say, generally.
[6:37pm] kristen_pol: loopduplicate updated demo profile to beta13: https://www.drupal.org/node/2537456
[6:37pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2537456 => Update to Drupal 8 beta 13 [#2537456] => 12 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: config_translation_entity_type_alter() does the entity mappings, that is where entities without an edit-form defined are left out
[6:37pm] kristen_pol: we ran d8 and d7 multilingual trainings at NYCCamp and did sessions for d8 and d7
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: we can instrument that and see if it finds other entities
[6:38pm] jhodgdon: tstoeckler: actually I realized it's easy to check that: compare the list of things on the config translation UI page with the things on the config export UI page
[6:38pm] jhodgdon: I will take a quick look
[6:38pm] kristen_pol: I think the trainings+sessions would have been better attended if they had set the schedule up ahead of time instead of last minute
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: :( I know that feeling
[6:39pm] kristen_pol: I personally have no desire to go back to nyccamp… not sure what they'll do next year for multilingual stuff
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: at least they did not have an invalid schedule up early?
[6:39pm] kristen_pol: ha
[6:39pm] kristen_pol: yes
[6:39pm] kristen_pol: well… they did switch my d7 session the night beforehand
[6:40pm] kristen_pol: anyway… we got to see a Broadway show so that was fun
[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: I heard people saying “we only found the session because we followed the presenter to a room — we still don’t know after the fact if that was the right room or time” (not for your session)
[6:40pm] kristen_pol: nothing else for me but we should see what we should do for badcamp since that is coming up pretty soon
[6:40pm] kristen_pol: yeah… it was pretty bad
[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: oh, badcamp, nice :)
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[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: so we are building up this “hacks” talk which will be a workshop along the lines of “get to know funky D8 things with a multilingual twist” basically
[6:41pm] kristen_pol: Aimee Degnan and I will do an all day multilingual training for badcamp (probably split between d7 and d8)
[6:41pm] kristen_pol: GaborHojtsy: you coming to badcamp?
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: the hacks session will be openly published again of course, so if I am not going to badcamp (have no idea ATM honestly) then it can be presented
[6:42pm] kristen_pol: hacks workshop sounds great
[6:42pm] kristen_pol: Aimee is organizing the training days for longer workshops/trainings
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: although I doubt we could make the copious notes like Aimee, that is not easy :)
[6:42pm] kristen_pol: ha
[6:42pm] kristen_pol: yes
[6:42pm] kristen_pol: all for me…
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: I heard you had some issues with the demo profile?
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: at least https://www.drupal.org/node/2536008
[6:43pm] kristen_pol: at nyccamp?
[6:43pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2536008 => Translation configuration not being set by installation profile [#2536008] => 11 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: were there others not yet opened?
[6:44pm] kristen_pol: Ah… I forgot about that
[6:44pm] kristen_pol: I'll check with Aimee since she was running the D8 workshop
[6:44pm] kristen_pol: I was just moral support
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: ha, ok
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: trying to make sure it is all fixed for people delivering / trying
[6:45pm] kristen_pol: I'll test it right now
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: the presenter sent me a link to https://twitter.com/d8mi/status/628115752248324096  which is **insipired** by the demo
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: not sure how much they will use from the demo, but all kinds of people still use it for things :)
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: so good job :)
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: the above twitter link was “"Multilingual Improvements of Drupal 8 with "नमस्ते भारत" Demo Website" proposed by @dineshweb3 for DrupalCamp Pune camp2015.punedrupalgroup.com/node/176” for the log
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: also opened https://www.drupal.org/node/2546220
[6:47pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546220 => Update to Drupal 8 beta 14 [#2546220] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: :)
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: its already out
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: time flies :D
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: well, no it was a quick update
[6:47pm] kristen_pol: :)
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol##
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: (that will not give double points:P)
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol++
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, who did I miss, or who arrived in the meantime?
[6:50pm] penyaskito: me!
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: oh, lol, sure, not in the lake? :)
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[6:51pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: I had to be on the meeting ;)
[6:51pm] penyaskito: Not much to report, only that I found https://www.drupal.org/node/2544696
[6:51pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2544696 => Content translation metadata is only being saved when using the content translation form [#2544696] => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: sorry :P
[6:51pm] penyaskito: hope to get something done tomorrow :)
[6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: yeah thats a good one
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I’ll attend your session on Fri but don’t promise I’ll not repeat stuff in mine :D
[6:53pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: yeah, may happen... but I hope it is fine... repetition is good for learning ;)
[6:54pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: Im really looking forward to see the "herding cats" one :)
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[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: ah, I worked way too much on that so I hope it will be a good one :) really excited for that one :)
[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: (too)
[6:54pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy++
[6:55pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212#comment-10188278 hope that clarifies a bit. gotta run now, but will leave chat open for tells, backlog, etc. thanks for finding opening this!!
[6:55pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212 => Entity view/form mode field settings, and base field settings, have no translation UI [#2546212] => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:55pm] tstoeckler: jhodgdon++
[6:55pm] jhodgdon: tstoeckler: great will take a look!
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: it has nuclear submarines and car wash loyalty tickets in it :D
[6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
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[6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: yay!
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[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, who did I forget who is here?
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[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, let me go last then
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: I worked with jhodgdon and mpdonadio on fields issues
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: I worked with japerry at the DA (well, he worked a lot, I updates issues :D) on the D7 update of localize, which ACTUALLY seems to be pretty close
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: that is very exciting :)
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: worked on my 2 Drupalaton sessions which are also going to be at DrupalCon (both)
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: both are new, so this should provide good testing ground
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: and we can fix the bugs at the sprint to perfect them for DrupalCon :)
[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: and the D8 release in general
[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: trying keep https://www.drupal.org/node/2488568 RTBC as well :D
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[7:01pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2488568 => Add a TypedDataManagerInterface and use it for typed parameters [#2488568] => 33 comments, 16 IRC mentions
[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler and alexpott did a bunch of work on that in fact
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[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: oh and I removed the Hacks stuff from the D(MI site and removed the 50 or so spam user accounts which were registered :D
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: and the unpublished hacks which were about enlargement and financial stuff :D
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: that’s it
[7:03pm] penyaskito: haha
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: (the hacks session will of course get up there once we have it developed)
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: but probably not individual written out hacks
[7:04pm] GaborHojtsy: ok thanks all for coming, and thanks for the great work!
[7:04pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy++
[7:04pm] GaborHojtsy: take your rest times as well; penyaskito now can definitely go to the lake if you want :D
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: mkalkbrenner++
[7:05pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: "enlarge your multilingual support with D8"
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: :D
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo++
[7:06pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: d8mi++