[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: HI ALL
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the meeting?
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib, eiriksm, hchonov, jhodgdon, Patrick_Storey, penyaskito, sebcorbin, Sutharsan, webflo, YesCT: hi all
[6:02pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I'm here, but nothing d8mi to report.
[6:02pm] jhodgdon: present
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, news!
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: barcelona<
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: barcelona?
[6:03pm] Druplicon: barcelona is DrupalCon Barcelona, 21-25 Sept 2015 | https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015 | Sprints Sept 19-27. Sprint signup: http://bit.ly/sprintBarcelona | Extended sprint info: https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015/sprints | In the meantime, enjoy the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHG6e3P4eQ8
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: barcelona!
[6:03pm] Druplicon: barcelona is DrupalCon Barcelona, 21-25 Sept 2015 | https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015 | Sprints Sept 19-27. Sprint signup: http://bit.ly/sprintBarcelona | Extended sprint info: https://events.drupal.org/barcelona2015/sprints | In the meantime, enjoy the song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHG6e3P4eQ8
[6:03pm] Sutharsan: I'm here, I'm here
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: to play with a few combinations :D
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: sign up, join us, it will be fun :)
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[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: 2. guess, what’s on D7?
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: http://localize.drupal.org/
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: huge, huge thanks to the DA for working tirelessly on the home stretch and launching it yesterday
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[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: will announce with a proper blog post hopefully tomorrow
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: as for me, I was working on D8 criticals (mostly not multilingual) but also presented 2 talks on D8MI at Drupalaton
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: one about advanced site building and one on the project management aspect
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: people liked the later one more than the prior one :D
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: BUT we have a month to refine the former one with vijaycs85
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: needs work :D
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[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito had an amazing idea on the spot that we implemented right away for example
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: he could have won on the contest :P
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: well, well… jhodgdon wanna go next?
[6:07pm] jhodgdon: um
[6:07pm] jhodgdon: can someone else go first? I haven't collected my issue links yet
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: sure thing
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: wanna go next?
[6:08pm] Sutharsan: Yea, I interfered in https://www.drupal.org/node/2501035
[6:08pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2501035 => Without "Update Manager" module enabled, "Available translation updates" does not get updated, should be documented [#2501035] => 27 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[6:09pm] Sutharsan: and created https://www.drupal.org/node/2550137
[6:09pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2550137 => Improve interface translation fallback if Update module is disabled [#2550137] => 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: ha I think the thing you argued about in 2501035 was actually suggested by reyero, BUT your proposed solutio nactually makes it work somewhat instead of shutting the feature off
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: are version fallbacks not dependent on update status too?
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: not just dev
[6:10pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: If I'm not mistaken, Update module is only used in case of for dev releases.
[6:12pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: yes, just checked in the code. Only for dev fallback.
[6:13pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: The fix only catches dev released after their first release.
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[6:14pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: Especially in this stage of development, the content of the status page will be off. We still need some explanation there.
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[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: yeah that makes sense to me
[6:15pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: But lets continue the discussion in the issue queue.
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: if the only thing we use it for is the dev fallback then that should work
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: right!
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan++
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[6:15pm] Sutharsan: Nothing else.
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: will follow up there
[6:15pm] • jhodgdon is ready now whenever
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: good stuff :) thanks for setting it straight
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: wanna go next then?
[6:15pm] jhodgdon: ok
[6:15pm] jhodgdon: so...
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[6:15pm] jhodgdon: In the vein of one step forward and two steps back...
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: I did some work on https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 but we had to postpone it becuase I couldn't test it because of https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212
[6:16pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 => Number formatters: Make it possible to configure format_plural on the formatter level [#2449597] => 131 comments, 21 IRC mentions
[6:16pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212 => Entity view/form mode formatter/widget settings have no translation UI [#2546212] => 14 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: I think that new issue on "no translation UI" probably needs to be Critical but it is currently just Major
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: but marking things Critical leads to wars so I haven't done that.
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[6:17pm] jhodgdon: Anyway we need to figure out what to do there and do it. I do not think shipping Drupal without a way to translate these things is acceptable, really.
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: hence I think it is critical.
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: but maybe translation is not a release blocker.
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: Anyway.
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: Then I also found/filed https://www.drupal.org/node/2545730
[6:17pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2545730 => Misuses of formatPlural() - on Numeric field prefix/suffix and DrupalTranslator::transChoice() [#2545730] => 3 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: this one is kind of easy to fix -- just remove some functionality that is not going to work anyway. Someone could take that one on?
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: And then we also still have 4 more issues related to D8MI views that haven't had any progress lately and still need work:
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2476563
[6:18pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2476563 => Entity operations links tied to original entity language, ignore everything else [#2476563] => 56 comments, 16 IRC mentions
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2473989
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2473989 => Lack of dynamic language field / filter makes shipping core views hard to be both compatible with mono and multilingual [#2473989] => 65 comments, 20 IRC mentions
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2451657
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2451657 => Views should not condition joins on the langcode of fields that are not translatable [#2451657] => 85 comments, 48 IRC mentions
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2450195
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2450195 => Original language of entities not accessible in views anymore [#2450195] => 16 comments, 8 IRC mentions
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[6:19pm] jhodgdon: So. Not sure what to do about any of these issues but they all need help!
[6:20pm] jhodgdon: any discussion or should we leave that to the issues? That's it from me...
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah, on criticality, https://www.drupal.org/core/issue-priority has the gist :D
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: not sure which definition would it fit with
[6:21pm] jhodgdon: asking in the contrib channel
[6:22pm] jhodgdon: alexpott says it is just "major"
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: 2545730 is a fine one for someone with some time :) eg. attrib you wanna warm up for DrupalCon with that? :) or penyaskito you can get it to rob? :)
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: hm, maybe no penyaskito or attrib here :D
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: also 2476563 only needs a test fixup, I think it needs to be reworked to test with nodes
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: the way it currently tests, it would be very painful to test what we need to with entity_test
[6:24pm] penyaskito: Im here, was reading the log
[6:25pm] jhodgdon: ok
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[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: ok, do you think maybe robertdbailey wanna work on 2545730? :)
[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: or someone else you know :D
[6:28pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: I will pass that along
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: sure, thanks
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: yeah based on the definitions, it looks major
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: we shoudl resolve it anyway, but its tricky where we put the UI as I commented there
[6:29pm] jhodgdon: definitely tricky
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: would be nice to have webflo / tstoeckler here
[6:30pm] jhodgdon: we cannot really resolve https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 until we fix it, I think? Can't test it effectively.
[6:30pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2449597 => Number formatters: Make it possible to configure format_plural on the formatter level [#2449597] => 131 comments, 22 IRC mentions
[6:30pm] jhodgdon: to see if it's doing the right thing.
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[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: ok, I looked at the UI issue again https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212#comment-10213411
[6:33pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212 => Entity view/form mode formatter/widget settings have no translation UI [#2546212] => 15 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:33pm] jhodgdon: probably we should move on with the meeting...
[6:34pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: sure!
[6:34pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[6:34pm] penyaskito: Sutharsan++
[6:34pm] penyaskito: jhodgdon++
[6:34pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: wanna go next then?
[6:34pm] penyaskito: sure
[6:35pm] penyaskito: I did a session in Drupalaton which included a review of the new D8 multilingual improvements
[6:35pm] penyaskito: and also sprinted in a few issues
[6:35pm] penyaskito: Worked on https://www.drupal.org/node/2529034
[6:35pm] penyaskito: Watching https://www.drupal.org/node/2501035
[6:35pm] penyaskito: Worked on https://www.drupal.org/node/2403229
[6:35pm] penyaskito: Worked on https://www.drupal.org/node/2546210
[6:35pm] penyaskito: Worked on https://www.drupal.org/node/2548079
[6:35pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2529034 => Replace direct access to FieldConfigBase::default_value with methods [#2529034] => 43 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:36pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2501035 => Without "Update Manager" module enabled, "Available translation updates" does not get updated, should be documented [#2501035] => 27 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:36pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2403229 => language.negotiation configuration can have overrides bleed in [#2403229] => 38 comments, 9 IRC mentions
[6:36pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546210 => Views subtokens are broken since the introduction of inline templates for replacements [#2546210] => 28 comments, 9 IRC mentions
[6:36pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2548079 => Move language negotiation prefix logic update to ConfigurableLanguage [#2548079] => 4 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:36pm] penyaskito: of them, https://www.drupal.org/node/2403229 was committed already
[6:36pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2403229 => language.negotiation configuration can have overrides bleed in [#2403229] => 38 comments, 10 IRC mentions
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[6:37pm] penyaskito: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546210 needs review, so that would help
[6:37pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2546210 => Views subtokens are broken since the introduction of inline templates for replacements [#2546210] => 28 comments, 10 IRC mentions
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: yeah congrats on 2403229 landing :)
[6:38pm] penyaskito: https://www.drupal.org/node/2548079 would need some bikeshedding maybe
[6:38pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2548079 => Move language negotiation prefix logic update to ConfigurableLanguage [#2548079] => 4 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:39pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: well, I only did the final push
[6:39pm] penyaskito: robertdbailey++
[6:39pm] penyaskito: andypost++
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: robertdbailey++
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: andypost++
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: as for 2546210 I’ve seen Emma was interested in our meeting, here she would have been really helpful, if she new the answer
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: tweeted https://twitter.com/gaborhojtsy/status/631505202097561600
[6:39pm] penyaskito: https://www.drupal.org/node/2529034 is not D8MI, but vijaycs85 help is requested :)
[6:39pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2529034 => Replace direct access to FieldConfigBase::default_value with methods [#2529034] => 43 comments, 6 IRC mentions
[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: hope it finds the right person to know
[6:40pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: oh, thanksga
[6:40pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy++
[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: other than that unanswered question, I think 2546210 looks good :)
[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: dawehner signed off on some parts already AFAIS
[6:42pm] • penyaskito elbows hard
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, who is here, who I forgot to call?
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[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib, eiriksm, hchonov, Patrick_Storey, sebcorbin, webflo?
[6:43pm] Patrick_Storey: just keeping up to date with D8MI, nothing to report this week from me.
[6:44pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: is this a known bug? https://localize.drupal.org/translate/languages/de shows Not available for download yet everywhere
[6:45pm] hchonov: GaborHojtsy: I do not have anything to report this time :)
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: ok
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey: ok
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: yes
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: https://www.drupal.org/node/2549799
[6:47pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2549799 => Fix up D7 packaging [#2549799] => 3 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: should return in a day or so
[6:49pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: will check back, thanks :)
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[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: drumm is working on removing a whole bunch of crap from the site which should both speed it up and help with restoring the files
[6:50pm] penyaskito: drumm++
[6:50pm] penyaskito: japerry++
[6:50pm] penyaskito: sebcorbin++
[6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: the files should still be perfectly avilable for l10n_update continuously
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: eg. http://ftp.drupal.org/files/translations/7.x/drupal/
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[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: so neither l10n_update, nor D8 is affected
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: its just that the site does not know abotu the old files due to a missing piece in the 6 -> 7 update
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[6:53pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: not that bad then
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: no
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov: no problem
[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov++
[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey++
[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, anybody else?
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[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: if nobody, then thanks again all for coming :)
[6:58pm] penyaskito: hchonov++
[6:58pm] penyaskito: Patrick_Storey++
[6:58pm] penyaskito: d8mi++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: its always great to hear all the things that people are up to especially if I can help at least a bit :)
[6:58pm] penyaskito: d*mi++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: d8mi++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: Patrick_Storey++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: hchonov++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan++
[6:58pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy++
[6:58pm] penyaskito: YesCT++
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[6:59pm] penyaskito: vijaycs85++
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler++
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo++
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: dawehner++
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: eiriksm++
[7:01pm] hchonov: GaborHojtsy++