11:01 GaborHojtsy: hey, who is here for the D8MI meeting?
11:01 plach: me
11:01 Druplicon: plach: 1 hour 15 min ago <GaborHojtsy> tell plach is this the right solution? https://drupal.org/node/2148797#comment-8240463? :)
11:01 plach: :)
11:02 GaborHojtsy: attrib: das-peter: e0ipso: fago: jcisio|aw, jsbalsera, ksenzee, penyaskito, Schnitzel, vijaycs85_, YesCT
11:02 vijaycs85_: GaborHojtsy: hey
11:02 GaborHojtsy: plach: hey
11:02 YesCT: here.
11:02 jsbalsera: hi!
11:02 Druplicon: sup
11:02 vijaycs85_ is now known as vijaycs85
11:02 jsbalsera: working :(
11:03 plach: hey :)
11:03 ksenzee: hello!
11:03 GaborHojtsy: so we totally skipped the meeting in Vienna because almost nobody was there on the planned time and then arrived randomly and were deep in their work so we did not bump them out from there :)
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11:04 GaborHojtsy: so you did not miss anything in tems of the meeting
11:04 das-peter: GaborHojtsy: Hi how is it going? :)
11:04 GaborHojtsy: we did get the patch to support node title translation in, and attrib worked hard on other properties
11:04 GaborHojtsy: das-peter: hey, have capacity for some D8MI stuff? :)
11:05 GaborHojtsy: we also worked in Vienna on several random bugs / issues we identified in the D8 training and the sprint
11:05 GaborHojtsy: eg. search bugs
11:05 GaborHojtsy: entity reference, disabled modules still mentioned in locale, etc.
11:05 GaborHojtsy: all of those are on http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/issues/focus
11:06 das-peter: GaborHojtsy: Unfortunately not :| Daily business isn't even about Drupal atm. and in the evenings I'm working on an D7 project :|
11:06 GaborHojtsy: das-peter: ok, best of luck with those projects :)
11:07 das-peter: GaborHojtsy: Thanks! I hope christmas brings some possibilities to come back to D8 :) It's exciting to see what's going on!
11:07 GaborHojtsy: das-peter: :)
11:07 GaborHojtsy: team: so http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/issues/focus is chock full of content related issues :)
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11:08 GaborHojtsy: plenty of interesting ones :)
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11:10 GaborHojtsy: anybody want to talk about a specific one?
11:10 plach: hides
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11:10 GaborHojtsy: plach: :D
11:11 plach: GaborHojtsy: I was havig a look to the IPE one
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11:11 plach: lucily many are RTBC :)
11:12 GaborHojtsy: plach: yeah employ strategic major/crit priorities to get things committed because the RTBC queue is looooooong
11:13 GaborHojtsy: plach: we have several ones which would be fine to commit and clear bug fixes but are normal...
11:14 GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: any progress on https://drupal.org/node/2040089 maybe? :)
11:14 Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2040089 => Support for Drupal 8 twig %trans% template translatables [#2040089] => 14 comments, 8 IRC mentions
11:15 ksenzee: no not yet :/
11:15 ksenzee: I keep getting pulled away
11:15 GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: hm
11:15 ksenzee: I guess maybe I have even less time to contribute than I thought :(
11:15 GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: do you have a work in progress that someone may be able to look at?
11:15 ksenzee: yeah
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11:15 ksenzee: I would still rather finish it but I guess I am holding things up
11:15 GaborHojtsy: herom was great in posting solutions to things
11:16 GaborHojtsy: in potx
11:16 GaborHojtsy: the only thing holding up further potx work on his side is testbots are not D6 compatible anymore :D
11:16 ksenzee: well it's not that I need solutions or help - I just need time to finish
11:16 ksenzee: haha well that is a bit of an impediment :)
11:17 GaborHojtsy: yeah https://qa.drupal.org/pifr/test/676383
11:17 GaborHojtsy: error: includes/bootstrap.inc: patch does not apply
11:17 GaborHojtsy: error: patch failed: includes/common.inc:2661
11:17 GaborHojtsy: error: includes/common.inc: patch does not apply].
11:18 plach: GaborHojtsy: https://drupal.org/comment/8240881#comment-8240881
11:19 GaborHojtsy: plach: it certainly works for title field
11:19 GaborHojtsy: so long as the entity has a translation handler, we return the negotiated language
11:20 plach: GaborHojtsy: yep, but in the if-branch we'd loop over all fields
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11:20 GaborHojtsy: plach: yeah I see that
11:20 plach: wondering whether there is a way to tell if a non-configurable fields supports formatters
11:20 plach: or if we can just process it and corss fingers ;)
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11:22 GaborHojtsy: plach: what harm is done if we pass on a language and the field is not using formatters?
11:22 GaborHojtsy: honestly does not know
11:23 plach: GaborHojtsy: I guess no harm, but I am not sure: I have lost track of the latest changes, I aminly fcusing on language negotiation right now :)
11:23 plach: * am mainly
11:23 GaborHojtsy: plach: ha, ok, we'll see the tests :)
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11:25 GaborHojtsy: anybody looking for work? :)
11:25 GaborHojtsy: we have several exciting issues :)
11:29 plach: GaborHojtsy: I am a bit worried about https://drupal.org/node/2149649
11:29 Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2149649 => Entity rendering/theming does not use the active entity language to render links [#2149649] => (Obsolete) configuration translation for Drupal 8</td><td>» Drupal core, Code</td><td>» theme system, , Needs review</td><td>» Needs work, 5 comments, 1 IRC mention
11:30 plach: the current patch is basically triggering a language switch
11:30 plach: which we never supported in regular links
11:30 plach: it seems it has the potential to make DX worse
11:30 GaborHojtsy: plach: but what we want is if you render a german node teaser on a french page, we want the node title, read more link, etc. to link to the german copy of the node, not french, right?
11:31 plach: yeah, I know, that's why I am worried :(
11:31 GaborHojtsy: plach: otherwise you cannot really do a multilingual view where the same node may appear in different languages
11:33 plach: GaborHojtsy: I see, but we have to get that one right, otherwise we might introduce another DX nightmare...
11:34 GaborHojtsy: yup
11:35 GaborHojtsy: plach: to me this seems to be encapsulated in the rendering system, which users would not necessarily face?
11:35 GaborHojtsy: plach: there are more though questions though like link fields and stuff, but this issue at least covers the basics
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11:35 plach: GaborHojtsy: well, my worry is that if we introduce such a behvior people might expect in any listing, which would require developers to take it into account everywhere they output a link to an entity
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11:36 plach: maybe there's a way to handle that in EnttiyInterface::uri() or similar?
11:38 YesCT: weal: hi. :)
11:38 weal: waves hello
11:39 GaborHojtsy: plach: well, since the entity can have different languages, and those have different links, devs need a reasonable way to do this :) as for the patch, the API now is the path is separate from the language, so it cannot all come from uri()
11:39 GaborHojtsy: weal: hey
11:39 weal: GaborHojtsy: long time no see... i've been lurking on the imp team lately
11:40 GaborHojtsy: weal: good place to work :)
11:40 weal: i've been doing lots of migrations, i'm working on a 600-site d6->d7 upgrade at the same time
11:41 plach: GaborHojtsy: sure, however I guess you get what I mean :)
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11:44 weal: actually the imp team needs i18n help so if any are interested groups.drupal.org/imp
11:45 GaborHojtsy: weal: any specific issues?
11:47 weal: GaborHojtsy: not that i noted specifically. current agenda over there is (1) fields support into node migraions, (2) need for test cases for everthing, (3) migrate from sandbox to doing core patches, and then (4) bring in more people to write migration templates
11:47 weal: anyone interested in helping out should contact chx
11:47 YesCT: and/or eliza411
11:47 weal: (or attend the meetup listed on the gdo page)
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11:48 YesCT: which is in 12 minutes.
11:48 GaborHojtsy: yeah I don't have time for that today :/
11:49 GaborHojtsy: anybody else wanna join there? :)
11:49 GaborHojtsy: we'll certainly need coverage in the migration path :)
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11:54 GaborHojtsy: anybody looking for issues (in core? :)
11:54 plach: GaborHojtsy: I am planning to turn to https://drupal.org/node/1498720 as soon as I am done with language negotiation stuff
11:54 Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1498720 => Make DatabaseStorageController automatically generate tables for every defined entity type [#1498720] => 25 comments, 3 IRC mentions
11:55 plach: that should give us translatable everything for content entities :)
11:55 plach: any concern about that?
11:56 YesCT: weal: pointed out that the imp meeting is tomorrow.
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11:57 YesCT: GaborHojtsy: it was a different meeting that starts in 3. :)
11:58 GaborHojtsy: plach: may be a good idea yup :)
12:03 plach: Got to go now, good bye everybody!