[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: HEYHO, D8MI meeting time
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the meeting?
[6:00pm] penyaskito: webflo is!
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo, penyaskito, YesCT, kristen_pol, mon_franco, pcambra, penyaskito, plach, rodrigoaguilera, tstoeckler_, vijaycs85: hi all
[6:01pm] vijaycs85: hi
[6:01pm] pcambra: hi :)
[6:01pm] webflo: yeah ok. i cant deny it :)
[6:01pm] webflo: hi
[6:01pm] Druplicon: what's up
[6:01pm] mon_franco: hi!
[6:01pm] tstoeckler_: hi
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: superb :)
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: so news first
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: localize.d.o has a new page to track D8 translations: https://localize.drupal.org/translate/drupal8
[6:03pm] YesCT: hi
[6:03pm] Druplicon: Hi! Did you clear your cache?
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: congrats to the forerunners :)
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[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: with beta5, all the D8 api support code is now out on l.d.o, so we are nearing the total string count expected for D8
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: 8100 strings at the moment
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: which is almost double D7
[6:05pm] tstoeckler_: wow
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: D7 has 4647
[6:05pm] tstoeckler_: GaborHojtsy: is there support for static menu links and the like as well?
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler_: yup
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: https://localize.drupal.org/translate/projects/drupal/releases/425928#source-warnings lists all the files parsed for strings
[6:06pm] tstoeckler_: wow
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: for more context, see https://localize.drupal.org/node/63758
[6:06pm] Druplicon: https://localize.drupal.org/node/63758 => Time to start translating Drupal 8! => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: I discussed with catch whether to suggest this as soon as now to people, and he agreed its not a bad idea
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: its a lot more work compared to D7 and the string freeze is likely too late for starting anything
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: next up
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: bogota<
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: bogota?
[6:07pm] Druplicon:  DrupalCon Latin America in Bogota, 10-12 Feb https://latinamerica2015.drupal.org | EXTENDED SPRINTS 8-13 Feb (info on https://groups.drupal.org/node/447308). Sign up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtDYnjV5l0uydEVCVTRjYzhkXzF6N05WelRrZlAxNnc#gid=0
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: that is next week
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: so while I think most of us are not going, we can support the event remotely with reviews, help on issues, etc.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: also properly tagging and issue summaries for our issues so people there will pick ours
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: that worked VERY effectively on sprint weekend
[6:08pm] tstoeckler_: whos going to be there?
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT I think :)
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[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT, alimac, Mark_L6n on the sprint sheet for multilingual
[6:09pm] YesCT: ok.
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: drupaldevdays?
[6:09pm] Druplicon: drupaldevdays is a conference to learn, share and celebrate Drupal http://drupaldays.org
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: that’s also coming up soooooon!
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: its again a whole week of sprints and there will be a huge EU contingent of course
[6:10pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I have my ticket for ddd, but not hotel yet.
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: I’ll not be able to go, but I am 100% sure there will be a fun multilingual sprint… unless we run out of things to work on
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: that may be a good target as well :P
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: but 2 months out it is not very realistic :D
[6:11pm] tstoeckler_: hehe you wish...
[6:12pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: YesCT: is there a spreadsheet of sprints attendance for DDD?
[6:12pm] YesCT: dev days?
[6:12pm] Druplicon: dev days is devdays?
[6:13pm] YesCT: devdays?
[6:13pm] Druplicon:  The next Drupal Dev Days is 13th to 19th April 2015 in Montpellier France. See https://twitter.com/drupaldevdays and http://devdays.drupalcamp.fr/
[6:13pm] YesCT: hm. looks like not.
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: http://montpellier2015.drupaldays.org/program does not have one either
[6:13pm] YesCT: let me check my google drive.
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: can you create a copy for DDD then? :)
[6:13pm] YesCT: sure.
[6:14pm] YesCT: but maybe not until tomorrow.
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: np
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[6:14pm] YesCT: I can do a g.d.o core post too.
[6:14pm] YesCT: I need to do a g.d.o post for LA.
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[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I can also do this sheet, it should be quick, I think we have a template somewhere or I can just copy the bogota one without data :D
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: anyway, that’s it for announcements
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[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: wanna be next?
[6:15pm] YesCT: sure. :)
[6:15pm] YesCT: I'm panicing a bit about the bogota presentation.
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[6:15pm] YesCT: going to come back to that on thursday.
[6:15pm] YesCT: and I'll have some time in bogota before to work on it.
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[6:16pm] YesCT: I helped on a few d8mi issues that people pinged me about,
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[6:16pm] YesCT: but mostly worked in new jersey on menu stuff.
[6:16pm] YesCT: I also worked on
[6:17pm] YesCT: sort tags?
[6:17pm] Druplicon: sort tags is https://www.drupal.org/node/2362065 (Sort autocomplete of issue tags descending by usage count for d.o issues)
[6:17pm] YesCT: which everyone should love.
[6:17pm] YesCT: that's it for me unless anyone has any specific questions.
[6:17pm] YesCT: I'm very happy to be pinged to review stuff or help unblock things people have questions on.
[6:17pm] tstoeckler_: YesCT nice!
[6:18pm] pcambra: YesCT: I'll ask you about barcelona later if you're available :)
[6:18pm] YesCT: Druplicon: drupaldevdays is a conference to learn, share and celebrate Drupal http://drupaldays.org | See: devdays?
[6:18pm] Druplicon: YesCT: Okay.
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: mon_franco: wanna go next?
[6:18pm] mon_franco: sure!
[6:18pm] mon_franco: I'm happy to have now more time to contribute with the iniciative.
[6:19pm] mon_franco: This week I worked on issue https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 and I have intentions to work to on issue https://www.drupal.org/node/2414279 tomorrow.
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 => Default language setting is hard to find [#2153937] => 29 comments, 17 IRC mentions
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2414279 => Interface translations directory: Can not set values on immutable configuration [#2414279] => 5 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:19pm] mon_franco: On my current office has planned a little sprint for every Thursday, we call it Lunch Sprint and we spend 1 and a half hour contributing on D8
[6:20pm] mon_franco: so maybe I need help tomorrow at 12,30h xD
[6:20pm] mon_franco: that's all
[6:20pm] mon_franco: :)
[6:21pm] penyaskito: sprint template?
[6:21pm] Druplicon: sprint template is https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlRKD0XsivA1dGhvN2x4dGZhX1FON1I3QXNheVhJWkE
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[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: mon_franco: yay thats great news
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[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: mon_franco: thanks for helping to drive home the default language issue :)
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: mon_franco: should help a lot of people figure things out
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: mon_franco++
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: wanna go next
[6:23pm] • GaborHojtsy creating the DDD sheet in the background BTW
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[6:24pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: sure
[6:24pm] penyaskito: I wanted to work on some issues, but other people beat me to do it (which is GREAT!)
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: ha :D
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I think the content language issue still needs work if you are willing
[6:25pm] penyaskito: the only thing I did is working today on https://www.drupal.org/node/2419897 with webflo, I will review his last patch later today
[6:25pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2419897 => Javascript translations are added before drupal.js but have dependency on drupal.js [#2419897] => 11 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: https://drupal.org/node/2397729
[6:25pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2397729 => Allow to configure content language settings for all language-aware entity types [#2397729] => 35 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: the JS issue is a great one too :)
[6:25pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: ok, I will look at that one
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: you worked on this before but it needs some test coverage :)
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[6:26pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: it may be hard to test that, let's see where I get :)
[6:26pm] penyaskito: that's all for me
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[6:26pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: ah, missed your last comment
[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: IMHO just enable the modules that expose nontranslatable entities
[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
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[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: also I asked Wim Leers to look at the JS issue and help with reviews, hope that helps
[6:28pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: cool, thanks!
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra: wanna go next?
[6:28pm] pcambra: sure
[6:28pm] pcambra: This got in: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 thanks to GaborHojtsy and mon_franco I think is my first commit to the initiative :)
[6:29pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 => Default language setting is hard to find [#2153937] => 29 comments, 18 IRC mentions
[6:29pm] pcambra: And I worked a little on https://www.drupal.org/node/2411343 I've got figured out what's needed and I've got failing tests locally, I hope to upload a patch later this week
[6:29pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2411343 => Only allowing to have empty language path prefix for the default language is inappropriate [#2411343] => 4 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[6:30pm] pcambra: Also, I'm stalking penyaskito js issues today ^^
[6:30pm] pcambra: that's it for me
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra: prefect, thanks for working on these :)
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra: these issues should help people setting up their sites a great deal
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra++
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: wanna go next?
[6:30pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: sure
[6:30pm] vijaycs85: wrote test for https://www.drupal.org/node/2407125
[6:30pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2407125 => LanguageInterface should not support setName [#2407125] => 43 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[6:31pm] vijaycs85: and will check https://www.drupal.org/node/2380457
[6:31pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2380457 => Some fixes of the views config schema [#2380457] => 36 comments, 10 IRC mentions
[6:31pm] vijaycs85: that's it
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: yeah the views schema one got to critical today
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: so got kind of important
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: thanks for working on that before
[6:32pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: yep, I will check if we can fix all the fails
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: I’ll see how I can help there, just started with a reroll for now
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: not sure I see the scope of the issue, weneed to define that somehow
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[6:33pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: cool
[6:33pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy++
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[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: wanna go next?
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[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: no, then reyero, hi, wanna go next?
[6:36pm] plach: (meeting sorry)
[6:36pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, hi, not too much to add, need to discuss the typed config issue with tstoeckler_
[6:36pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, talking about this issue, https://www.drupal.org/node/2298687
[6:36pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2298687 => Fix interfaces implemented by Sequence/Mapping. Add a specific interface. Simplify both. [#2298687] => 56 comments, 27 IRC mentions
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: ok, hope you can get on the same page :)
[6:37pm] tstoeckler_: reyero: I spent some time earlier today looking at it. I (almost?) completely agree with your points
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler_: wanna go next then? :)
[6:37pm] tstoeckler_: reyero: I started by opening some issues that can be split because they are not strictly related and to make the patch smaller
[6:38pm] tstoeckler_: reyero: I hope to post an updated patch tomorrow then
[6:38pm] reyero: tstoeckler_, yes, I think that's a good idea, we need to split it
[6:38pm] tstoeckler_: reyero: re-introducing TypedConfigInterface
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[6:38pm] reyero: tstoeckler_, maybe first fixing TraversableTypedData
[6:39pm] tstoeckler_: reyero: I opened one issue to consolidate TraversableTypedData where it can be done already in HEAD, so that we can concentrate on the config schema parts
[6:39pm] reyero: tstoeckler_, cool, I'll follow up on your posts (which issue is that?)
[6:40pm] tstoeckler_: will post them into the later, but for now...
[6:40pm] tstoeckler_: https://www.drupal.org/node/2420055
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2420055 => Document $value in TypedData [#2420055] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:40pm] tstoeckler_: https://www.drupal.org/node/2420049
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2420049 => Move \ArrayAccess from ListInterface to FieldItemListInterface [#2420049] => 2 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:40pm] tstoeckler_: https://www.drupal.org/node/2420067
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2420067 => Promote usage of TraversableTypedDataInterface [#2420067] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:40pm] tstoeckler_: (especially the last one)
[6:41pm] tstoeckler_: I might open more, again, I will post everything into the issue you mentioned
[6:41pm] reyero: tstoeckler_, wow, there are a few of them :-), I'll take a look and try to link them together from some other (typed data) issue I cannot find right now
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler_++
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler_: reyero: these look great
[6:42pm] tstoeckler_: ahh cool. yeah, they're not all super-related to the (new, upcoming version of) the typed data interface issue
[6:43pm] reyero: tstoeckler_, GaborHojtsy only question is how should we move with the big (Fix interfaces...) issue? get back to previous versions?
[6:43pm] reyero: tstoeckler_, GaborHojtsy it may need some reroll anyway because of https://www.drupal.org/node/2414953
[6:43pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2414953 => Element uses \Drupal::service() as a service locator and prevents injecting a custom typed config manager in config [#2414953] => 6 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:43pm] tstoeckler_: reyero: yes, if it's OK with you I would prepare a patch that mostly goes back to where you were, but keeps some of my stuff, i.e. TraversableTDI::getElemetns() and so forth,
[6:44pm] tstoeckler_: but the details can be hashed out in the issue ?!
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: yeah I don’t know the answer to that question, I trust you and tstoeckler_ to figure that out but I think there is an increasing time pressure the more API changes it attempts to make
[6:44pm] tstoeckler_: yes, that's probably true
[6:44pm] reyero: tstoeckler_, more than ok :-), because I dont have that much time for big patches, so I'll follow up
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: tstoeckler_ so probably not worth looping on it for long
[6:44pm] tstoeckler_: yes
[6:45pm] tstoeckler_: reyero, GaborHojtsy: I will work on it tonight, but post something tomorrow latest in case I don't get it finished tonight
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler_++
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks!
[6:45pm] tstoeckler_: that's all
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler_: reyero: don’t want to shut down your discussion, but lets let others speak and then we can close the group meeting :)
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo: wanna go next?
[6:46pm] webflo: yeah sure. i have not much atm. only the js issue mentioned earlier by penyaskito
[6:47pm] webflo: and i worked on https://www.drupal.org/node/2414539
[6:47pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2414539 => Simplify schema definition for sequence [#2414539] => 10 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[6:47pm] webflo: dont know if we want to fix this or not. found this issue during  https://www.drupal.org/node/2350537
[6:48pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2350537 => Enforce order of display of components in config export [#2350537] => 13 comments, 6 IRC mentions
[6:48pm] tstoeckler_: webflo: awesome that that's green. nice!
[6:48pm] webflo: i mean this https://www.drupal.org/node/2361539
[6:48pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2361539 => Config export key order is not predictable, use config schema to order keys on all levels [#2361539] => 20 comments, 8 IRC mentions
[6:48pm] webflo: tstoeckler_: yeah that was a very days ago. but i think thats an easy one
[6:49pm] webflo: and we dont want to support sequences with different data types?
[6:49pm] tstoeckler_: webflo: I meant the sequence one
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah the sequence one is nice but https://www.drupal.org/node/2414539#comment-9586153
[6:49pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2414539 => Simplify schema definition for sequence [#2414539] => 10 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: ultimately alexpott will decide that
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[6:50pm] webflo: tstoeckler_: yeah. the chnage is very small.
[6:50pm] webflo: i think it makes sense if you look at Drupal\CoreConfig\Schema\Sequence
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[6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo: sure it does, but it will break most contrib schemas
[6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo: I fully agree it makes more sense after your patch
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo: as we get closer to a stable API the arrow between “it makes a lot of sense” => “we should do this” is less and less automatic
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo: anyway just commented to that effect, it might have a very good cache, I don’t have a looking glass into alexpott’s head :D
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: very good chance that is
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, who did I not ask?
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo++
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: you seem to be back?
[6:54pm] webflo: GaborHojtsy: ok whats the  appropriate tag/process to get core committer feedback?
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo: you can just ping it to alexpott but he will ask for the beta evaluation anyway :D
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo: dreditor can help you with the template or
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: https://www.drupal.org/node/2373483
[6:56pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2373483 => Drupal 8 beta phase evaluation template => 0 comments, 11 IRC mentions
[6:57pm] rodrigoaguilera: GaborHojtsy: not available sorry :(
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: np
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, did I miss somebody else?
[7:00pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: hi, around?
[7:01pm] kristen_pol: hi! I've been dealing with site meltdown
[7:01pm] kristen_pol: fun!
[7:01pm] tstoeckler_: site meltdown--
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[7:01pm] kristen_pol: ok… nothing much to report except that Jeff Mahoney will be updating the multilingual demo install profile for beta6 today
[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: oh, sorry
[7:02pm] kristen_pol: this afternoon and into tomorrow if necessary
[7:02pm] kristen_pol: ETA EOD tomorrow
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: the update sounds amazing though É:)
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol++
[7:02pm] kristen_pol: :)
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: loopduplicate++
[7:02pm] kristen_pol: loopduplicate++
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: all right, that’s it for the meeting then :)
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks all for coming
[7:02pm] kristen_pol: all for me…
[7:02pm] kristen_pol: d8mi++
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: spread drupaldevdays!
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: devdays?
[7:02pm] Druplicon: devdays is The next Drupal Dev Days is 13th to 19th April 2015 in Montpellier France. See http://montpellier2015.drupaldays.org/ Sprint signup at https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqxsrc5BVkagdFZXZ0lWWk5sVUIwbWZtV0RyWWhzNUE&usp=sharing
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: looks it has a sheet now :)
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: go sign up for the multilinfual sprint :)
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[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks all! you rock!
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol++
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler_++
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra++
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[7:04pm] pcambra: GaborHojtsy++
[7:04pm] GaborHojtsy: mon_franco++
[7:04pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy++
[7:04pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: GaborHojtsy++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: YesCT++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: webflo++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: plach++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: reyero++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: mon_franco++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: pcambra++
[7:04pm] GaborHojtsy: d8mi++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: penyaskito++
[7:04pm] tstoeckler_: kristen_pol++