[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: D8MI meeting time! [6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here? [6:01pm] YesCT: on purpose! [6:01pm] jhodgdon: present [6:01pm] rodrigoaguilera: hi [6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito, plach, Schnitzel, sebcorbin, webflo, tstoeckler: ping for meeting :) [6:02pm] plach: hello [6:02pm] Druplicon: plach: 4 hours 12 min ago tell plach Do you think we will be able to use {node_views_data} as start table for views queries, so we don't need the additional join by default? [6:02pm] Druplicon: plach: 4 hours 12 min ago tell plach https://www.drupal.org/node/2406723 is a issue which is related to that [6:02pm] tstoeckler: hey there [6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, this week is Global Sprint Weekend time! [6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: sprintweekend? [6:03pm] Druplicon: sprintweekend is see sprint weekend? [6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: sprint weekend? [6:03pm] Druplicon: Jan. 17-18, 2015. Add your local event! https://groups.drupal.org/node/447258 | Resources for planners: https://www.drupal.org/core-mentoring/sprint-resources | Preparation tips: http://www.comm-press.de/en/blog/preparations-global-sprint-weekend-march-9-and-10 [6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: I’ll be sprinting in Budapest at Cheppers :) [6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: Based on jhodgdon’s advise, I spent some time looking at the normal and novice issues, update several and added novice tags [6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: that in fact ignited some work on them *already* [6:04pm] jhodgdon: that Novice tag is magic! [6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: not sure how best to line up issues for the sprint, I’d love novice and non-novice ones as well… not sure if its good etiquette to pre-tag with the sprint weekend tag? YesCT? [6:05pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I would not recommend pretagging with a specific sprint name. [6:05pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: for most components/projects we just use a generic "sprint" tag to indicate 'we'd like to get this done in an upcoming sprint" I think, but you use that differently in d8mi [6:06pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: the general sprint tag would be better [6:06pm] treehug88 left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [6:06pm] penyaskito: hi all [6:06pm] YesCT: but updating the issue summary is probably good enough (even for non-novice issues) [6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: the problem with the general sprint tag is we use it for what we are working on which includes very complex things [6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: if I could make a list of “we suggest these issues to look at” that would be fabulous, the D8MI + sprint tag is not it [6:07pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: yeah you are using a generic tag for a specific purpose. :( [6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: well, I adopted that tag from Jacine 2 or 3 years ago [6:07pm] das-peter___ is now known as das-peter. [6:08pm] YesCT: so you want to focus on issues... but not put them on the sprint? [6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: I don’t think it was used before and Jacine used it to mark things HTML5 worked at the time [6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: not on things that she wanted someone to work on sometime later [6:09pm] YesCT: yesct favorite issues? [6:09pm] Druplicon: yesct favorite issues is novice pages? sort tags? issue tasks? browsable? YesCT first patch collection? and also title search? component search link? follower AND? list commenters? personal tags? profile meta? mentoring meta? [6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: its fine to put them on the sprint, but the sprint has plenty of issue I would not put into a new person’s hand if I want them to be successful [6:09pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: you could make up a new tag for "d8mi issues that would be good for sprints" [6:09pm] YesCT: personal tags? [6:09pm] Druplicon: personal tags is https://drupal.org/node/1621714 [6:09pm] YesCT: I'm not sure if either of these are *public* https://www.drupal.org/node/1621714#comment-9497175 [6:09pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/1621714 => Allow to bookmark/favorite issues without abusing the Assigned field or issue tags [#1621714] => 45 comments, 2 IRC mentions [6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: we can make do with the D8MI + Novice and the D8MI + medium combination for now I guess if I have time to pretag more issues and update summaries [6:10pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I'd recommend that ^ [6:10pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: or... edit the sprint weekend page. [6:10pm] YesCT: but then that has to be updated by hand... and tags are so nice. [6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I was looking for a scalable way :D [6:11pm] YesCT: but the sprint weekend page is central and a wiki. [6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: anyway, I am very demanding :P [6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: sorry :P [6:11pm] YesCT: Adding issue numbers to a public list is really needed. [6:12pm] mpdonadio joined the chat room. [6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: tags are the only tool for that now [6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: anyway, let’s move to my quick report :) [6:13pm] nonsie joined the chat room. [6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: I’ve been working mostly in cmi language override land with alexpott, alongside pwolanin and dawehner in https://www.drupal.org/node/2315773 to ensure multilingual support in the new land and views native language display in https://www.drupal.org/node/2384863 which is fun :) [6:13pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2315773 => Create a menu link field type/widget/formatter [#2315773] => 115 comments, 25 IRC mentions [6:13pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2384863 => Native language settings in views fields are no-ops [#2384863] => 65 comments, 13 IRC mentions [6:13pm] herom joined the chat room. [6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: that’t it for me [6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: mainly [6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: wanna go next? [6:14pm] tstoeckler: I've been completely slacking of since Christmas :-/ [6:15pm] tstoeckler: But my only plan for the Sprint Weekend is https://www.drupal.org/node/2298687 [6:15pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2298687 => Fix interfaces implemented by Sequence/Mapping. Add a specific interface. Simplify both. [#2298687] => 50 comments, 20 IRC mentions [6:15pm] tstoeckler: to finally get that out of the way [6:15pm] tstoeckler: that's all [6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: perfect, thanks [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: let me know if I can help in some way [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler++ [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: I hope you had at least some good rest and family time btw :) [6:16pm] tstoeckler: *hopefully* I will get to the point where I can nag you to RTBC it :-) [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler: haha, ok :) [6:16pm] tstoeckler: GaborHojtsy: thanks! yes, I did [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: wanna go next? [6:17pm] plach: yup [6:17pm] plach: not much to say [6:17pm] plach: I had a bad flu last week and I mostly stayed in my bed since the last meeting [6:17pm] plach: :) [6:18pm] plach: however I managed to address @alexpott's review to the CT metadata issue [6:18pm] plach: hopefully someone with config knowledge can review the last interdiff and set it back to RTBC... [6:18pm] plach: https://www.drupal.org/node/1916790 [6:18pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/1916790 => Convert translation metadata into regular entity fields [#1916790] => 144 comments, 29 IRC mentions [6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: ha, hope you are getting better! [6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++ [6:19pm] plach: yep, I'm back to work now [6:19pm] plach: this week I'll be a bit busy so I don't think I will be able to do much, hopefully by monday things should be calm again [6:20pm] plach: that's all [6:20pm] rokr left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving.) [6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: not promising anything but I may have time to review that or wil ltry to get laworlan [6:20pm] plach: ok, thanks [6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: larowlan that is [6:20pm] plach: GaborHojtsy++ [6:21pm] jurgenhaas left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving.) [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: wanna go next? [6:21pm] jhodgdon: sure [6:22pm] jhodgdon: I have nothing really to report. Monitoring https://www.drupal.org/node/2313159 and sub-issues as usual, not much activity this past week and I haven't had any D8MI time. [6:22pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2313159 => [meta] Make multilingual views work [#2313159] => 31 comments, 27 IRC mentions [6:22pm] jhodgdon: We still need someone with time and Views plugin knowledge to work on https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 [6:22pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 => Language setup for entity and field based rendering in views is independent, confusing UI, lacking test coverage [#2394883] => 30 comments, 9 IRC mentions [6:22pm] jhodgdon: that's it [6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: I tried to clarify https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 for you — if you don’t have time to work on it anytime soon, maybe you can still give us some hints as to where to look? [6:25pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 => Language setup for entity and field based rendering in views is independent, confusing UI, lacking test coverage [#2394883] => 30 comments, 10 IRC mentions [6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: if you know that is :D [6:26pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: I have it open, I will try to reply asap, I'm working on another critical when I have some time [6:26pm] jhodgdon: plach: great! [6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: thanks [6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++ [6:26pm] jhodgdon: I think dawehner is still working on https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045 which is the other big open issue [6:26pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045 => Formatter and language cannot be selected in views for base fields [#2342045] => 77 comments, 17 IRC mentions [6:26pm] jibran|afk left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: wanna go next? [6:26pm] plach: https://www.drupal.org/node/2371605 [6:27pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2371605 => SqlContentEntityStorage::countFieldData() fatals for revision metadata fields and the UUID field [#2371605] => 5 comments, 5 IRC mentions [6:27pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: sure. [6:27pm] plach: (that's my current focus when I have some spare time) [6:27pm] YesCT: mostly sprint planning last few weeks. [6:27pm] YesCT: currently I'm reading issues since I've been away from them for a while. [6:27pm] YesCT: getting ready for sprint weekend [6:28pm] YesCT: probably will be updating issue summaries and adding needs tags. [6:28pm] YesCT: we should watch for tasks and evaluate them for the beta and postpone them if needed. [6:28pm] YesCT: we dont want people not super familiar with the beta requirements sprinting on an issue that wont get committed [6:29pm] TuWebO left the chat room. (Quit: Konversation terminated!) [6:29pm] YesCT: so.. the usual. [6:29pm] penyaskito: YesCT: for sprints I usually filter bugs + Novice + Needs X, so most of them if not all are acceptable [6:29pm] YesCT: penyaskito: surely yes. [6:29pm] YesCT: penyaskito: we should tweet out links to good advance searches... and put some in the sprint weekend wiki too. [6:29pm] YesCT: sprint weekend? [6:29pm] Druplicon: Jan. 17-18, 2015. Add your local event! https://groups.drupal.org/node/447258 | Resources for planners: https://www.drupal.org/core-mentoring/sprint-resources | Preparation tips: http://www.comm-press.de/en/blog/preparations-global-sprint-weekend-march-9-and-10 [6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: penyaskito put in a link, but that may be too broad [6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: which is why Iwas looking at how to pre-tag issues for the sprint weekend [6:30pm] YesCT: yeah. [6:31pm] YesCT: maybe we should re-think the pretagging. [6:31pm] YesCT: some worries (not big ones) [6:32pm] YesCT: are Dries in the past has asked that sprints tag issues that are worked on during the sprint. [6:32pm] YesCT: (which I think is not the best way to gather the data of how effective a sprint was) [6:32pm] YesCT: but he inisted. [6:33pm] YesCT: .... but triaging and preparing issues for others to work on *is* part of the work of having a sprint [6:33pm] penyaskito: YesCT: a separate tag maybe? SprintWeekendCandidate [6:33pm] YesCT: so maybe I can rationalize that it does make sense. [6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I think it makes sense if we remove the tag later for example although that would have the side effect of needing to “triage” it for sprints later again [6:34pm] penyaskito: YesCT: and we always ask people to comment on the issue on big sprints before starting work, so this will "force" them to do so for switching the tag to SprintWeekend [6:34pm] YesCT: maybe we should ask in contribute and get xjm's opinion [6:34pm] alexpott left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving...) [6:34pm] guy_schneerson left the chat room. (Quit: guy_schneerson) [6:34pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: yeah, I dont like the idea of needing to go back and remove tags. [6:36pm] YesCT: ok. lets move on and I'm gonna think and summarize. [6:37pm] tstoeckler: "see" you all on saturday :-) gotta run [6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++ [6:37pm] YesCT: tstoeckler: :) [6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: wanna go next? [6:37pm] rodrigoaguilera: ok [6:37pm] treehug88 joined the chat room. [6:37pm] rodrigoaguilera: I just did a kick review of https://www.drupal.org/node/2384863 [6:38pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2384863 => Native language settings in views fields are no-ops [#2384863] => 69 comments, 14 IRC mentions [6:38pm] rodrigoaguilera: and some coding standars correction [6:39pm] rodrigoaguilera: and then I paln to have a look at https://www.drupal.org/node/2397281 [6:39pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2397281 => Languages not translated when you add them [#2397281] => 4 comments, 2 IRC mentions [6:39pm] rodrigoaguilera: for this week [6:39pm] rodrigoaguilera: *plan [6:39pm] rodrigoaguilera: that's it [6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: ok, https://www.drupal.org/node/2397281 is in need of tests now I guess, at least that would be the easier thing, beucase the fix was not a good one :D [6:40pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2397281 => Languages not translated when you add them [#2397281] => 4 comments, 3 IRC mentions [6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: I mean the fix I provided [6:40pm] rvilar joined the chat room. [6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: was not a good one [6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: but I think tests may be written based on earlier tests that I referenced which could prove the bug :) [6:41pm] jibran|afk joined the chat room. [6:41pm] rodrigoaguilera: ok thanks [6:41pm] rodrigoaguilera: GaborHojtsy++ [6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: let me know if that does not work out and I can help with more issues definitely :) [6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: what about you? :) [6:43pm] rodrigoaguilera: great [6:44pm] penyaskito: I have done some work on different issues, but I think none are D8MI [6:44pm] penyaskito: also some planning for this weekend [6:45pm] penyaskito: I have not planned to anything concrete in D8MI, but if you think I should, feel free to ping me and I'll try [6:47pm] penyaskito: that's all I guess [6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: https://drupal.org/node/2381147 would be a fancy one to help move if you are inclined :) [6:47pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2381147 => Text and text with summary field default value config does not use the text_format schema type [#2381147] => 8 comments, 1 IRC mention [6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: but no pressure :) [6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++ [6:48pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, who did I forget to ask? [6:48pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: ok [6:48pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: changing config schema does not mean upgrade blocker? I thought so [6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: well, only critical upgrade path issues would block the upgrade path [6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: others will need an update function [6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: this one I had the tag for a while and then remoed [6:51pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: ok, so is nice to get this one before, but not mandatory. Gotcha. [6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: because it seems to be just defining the schema differently but it does not actually change the structure fo config [6:53pm] sebcorbin is now known as sebcorbin`away. [6:53pm] YesCT: https://www.drupal.org/node/2407325 [6:53pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2407325 => preparing for a sprint, would be good to have a list of candidate issues [#2407325] => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions [6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: let’s figure that out in contribute then :) [6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: so in parting thought, see you on sprint weekend :) [6:55pm] YesCT: :) [6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: sprint weekend? [6:55pm] Druplicon: Jan. 17-18, 2015. Add your local event! https://groups.drupal.org/node/447258 | Resources for planners: https://www.drupal.org/core-mentoring/sprint-resources | Preparation tips: http://www.comm-press.de/en/blog/preparations-global-sprint-weekend-march-9-and-10 [6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: Bogota is less than a month away now, if anyone is going, please sign up :) [6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: bogota? [6:55pm] Druplicon: DrupalCon Latin America in Bogota, 10-12 Feb https://latinamerica2015.drupal.org | EXTENDED SPRINTS 8-13 Feb (info on https://groups.drupal.org/node/447308). Sign up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtDYnjV5l0uydEVCVTRjYzhkXzF6N05WelRrZlAxNnc#gid=0 [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: finally, Drupal Dev Days is a full week of sprints again and in 3 months will already be underway [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: drupaldevdays? [6:56pm] Druplicon: drupaldevdays is a conference to learn, share and celebrate Drupal http://drupaldays.org [6:56pm] roderik left the chat room. (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [6:56pm] roderik joined the chat room. [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks also for coming today and keep rocking :) [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++ [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++ [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++ [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera++ [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: franSeva++ [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++ [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan++ [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler++ [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: webflo++ [6:57pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: I applied for a scholarship to help fund travel to DevDays, will see what happens! [6:57pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy++ [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: yay :)