[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: HI ALL
[6:00pm] jhodgdon: hi!
[6:00pm] Druplicon: privet
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the meeting?
[6:00pm] penyaskito: o/
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib, jhodgdon, kristen_pol, pcambra, penyaskito, plach, rodrigoaguilera, Schnitzel, tstoeckler, webflo, YesCT: hi!
[6:01pm] pcambra: here :)
[6:01pm] plach: yup
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: yay :)
[6:01pm] tstoeckler: GaborHojtsy: hey there.
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[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: so, let’s start with some good news :)
[6:02pm] rodrigoaguilera: Hi!
[6:02pm] Druplicon: eh oh
[6:02pm] YesCT: Hi (I'm at museum on phone, so kids here)
[6:02pm] Druplicon: YesCT: 1 hour 52 min ago <mon_franco> tell YesCT done! :D
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: I spent considerable time updating my blog post series on D8, so it has up to date screenshots and text now :) http://hojtsy.hu/multilingual-drupal8
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: eg. updated the API section with injected translation, TranslationWrapper, hook_menu() successors, etc.
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: and all screenshots are nice and up to date now :)
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: also started writing about the content entity stuff
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[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: now that are almost stable there
[6:03pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy++
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: Amazee also posted a great article at http://www.amazeelabs.com/en/blog/launch-of-d8-customer-website
[6:04pm] YesCT: Wow
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[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: two quotes:
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: “Full translation capabilities: thanks to #d8mi you don't need a dozen of i18n modules, but Drupal 8 core ships with configuration, content & interface translation”
[6:04pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: My perennial question: how much of this documentation is on drupal.org? ;}
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: “The translation system is really good. All translation cases are handled right in the core."
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: congrats all that we make such quotes possible :)
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: d8mi++
[6:05pm] plach: GaborHojtsy++
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[6:05pm] tstoeckler1: d8mi++
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: it has been a while since I looked at that honestly, the position at the time was to try to write version agnostic site builder docs, which these are not
[6:06pm] pcambra: GaborHojtsy++
[6:06pm] pcambra: nice :)
[6:06pm] jhodgdon: yeah
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: D8’s language system is in some ways similar but there are differences in every little corner
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: so to mix that up with D7 docs will make it hard to follow
[6:06pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: indeed, probably need a new section
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: should discuss that later in more detail I think :)
[6:07pm] jhodgdon: yes
[6:07pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: at a minimum it might make sense at the top of the current multilingual section on d.o to link to your blog.
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: the goal of the post series actually formed in me after I read “Switch: how to make change when change is hard” (highly suggested for people who want to make things happen in open source) and I combined several principles from there in these posts
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[6:07pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: anyway not to derail.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: its in part to make people familiar with the new stuff to make D8 more friendly to them
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: its in part to higlight things to do to help make it happen and limitations they may still help to resolve
[6:08pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: yes. Some of the text though is basic "how to use it" documentation.
[6:08pm] jhodgdon: very good documentation I might add
[6:08pm] jhodgdon: anyway. let's discuss this another time.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: sure
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: that’s it for my news :) I worked with several of you on things so let’s move on to others :)
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra: wanna go next?
[6:10pm] pcambra: sure
[6:10pm] pcambra: I worked in the issue moving the default language back to the language list
[6:10pm] pcambra: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937
[6:10pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 => Default language setting is hard to find [#2153937] => 21 comments, 7 IRC mentions
[6:11pm] pcambra: it is green and seems good to go unless someone disagrees on the position of the radio
[6:11pm] pcambra: also found this bit https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937#comment-9559173 that might worth a followup
[6:11pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 => Default language setting is hard to find [#2153937] => 21 comments, 8 IRC mentions
[6:12pm] pcambra: and I guess that if there's nothing else, I'll check https://www.drupal.org/node/2411343 next :)
[6:12pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2411343 => Only allowing to have empty language path prefix for the default language is inappropriate [#2411343] => 4 comments, 3 IRC mentions
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[6:12pm] pcambra: that's me
[6:13pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: on documentation (one more diversion, for later reading): https://www.drupal.org/node/1892514#comment-9562195
[6:13pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/1892514 => Update the Multilingual Guide for Drupal 8 [#1892514] => 10 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah I also contributed to https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937
[6:13pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 => Default language setting is hard to find [#2153937] => 21 comments, 9 IRC mentions
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: so we need a reviewer other than us on it :)
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: eg. penyaskito? :)
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[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra: that is a good one next indeed
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra: I’d love to see these cleaned up :)
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra++
[6:15pm] pcambra: cool :)
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[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: wanna go next?
[6:16pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy: ok
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[6:16pm] jhodgdon: As usual I'm thinking about https://www.drupal.org/node/2313159 mostly
[6:16pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2313159 => [meta] Make multilingual views work [#2313159] => 34 comments, 28 IRC mentions
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: Right now, plach and GaborHojtsy have been doing all the work and I've been doing some reviews
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: the two main issues right now are: https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 which plach worked on lately and I think is very close
[6:17pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 => Language setup for entity and field based rendering in views is independent, confusing UI, lacking test coverage [#2394883] => 52 comments, 11 IRC mentions
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: and https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045 , which dawehner is working on
[6:17pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045 => Formatter and display language cannot be selected in views for base fields, access is not checked on them [#2342045] => 95 comments, 19 IRC mentions
[6:17pm] jhodgdon: and also It hink that one is getting fairly close
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: The first one is about making sure that field-based views can be translated in the same way as entity-based views
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: The second one is about making sure that entity base fields (title, etc.) can be translated in the same way as Field UI fields
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: that's really it
[6:18pm] jhodgdon: the second issue has children
[6:19pm] plach: congrats :)
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: hah
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: yeah we don’t agree on the second issue title I guess :D https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045#comment-9562207
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: plach++
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045 => Formatter and display language cannot be selected in views for base fields, access is not checked on them [#2342045] => 95 comments, 20 IRC mentions
[6:19pm] jhodgdon: dawehner++
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: dawehner++
[6:20pm] jhodgdon: the good news is that I think when we get these two done, multilingual views should actually really truly be working!
[6:20pm] plach: yep, I agree
[6:20pm] plach: jhodgdon++
[6:20pm] jhodgdon: and when I say "we", I mean mostly "they". ;)
[6:20pm] plach: reviews are important ;)
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[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[6:20pm] jhodgdon: GaborHojtsy++
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon: superb
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: wanna go next then? :)
[6:20pm] plach: btw, I agree with your last comment in the issue I'm working on, I was about to reply somehting along those lines
[6:20pm] plach: sure
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[6:21pm] plach: as you may know the CT metadata issue has finally been committed
[6:21pm] • plach is still recovering from the following drunk
[6:21pm] tstoeckler1: plach++
[6:21pm] plach: https://www.drupal.org/node/1916790
[6:21pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/1916790 => Convert translation metadata into regular entity fields [#1916790] => 161 comments, 30 IRC mentions
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: :) :)
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[6:22pm] plach: aside from that, I've been busy with Entity storage + Views stuff
[6:22pm] plach: basically what jhodgdon said
[6:23pm] plach: I'm working with dawehner++ on a few critical issues
[6:23pm] plach: all in the entity/language + views area
[6:24pm] plach: atm my focus is on https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 and https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045
[6:24pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 => Language setup for entity and field based rendering in views is independent, confusing UI, lacking test coverage [#2394883] => 52 comments, 12 IRC mentions
[6:24pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2342045 => Formatter and display language cannot be selected in views for base fields, access is not checked on them [#2342045] => 95 comments, 21 IRC mentions
[6:24pm] plach: that's all :)
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah those two are among the 13 D8 upgrade path blocker criticals
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: so good that we are on them :)
[6:24pm] plach: yep :)
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: https://www.drupal.org/project/issues/search?projects=&project_issue_followers=&status%5B%5D=1&status%5B%5D=13&status%5B%5D=8&status%5B%5D=14&status%5B%5D=4&status%5B%5D=16&priorities%5B%5D=400&issue_tags_op=%3D&issue_tags=D8+upgrade+path is all 13
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: ok, so should I go ahead and add tests to the language rendering thing then? :) that is what you meant when you wrote “I agree with your last comment in the issue I'm working on, I was about to reply somehting along those lines”?
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: was not clear what that was referring to
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: I think/hope the language formatter issue fails can be transported here as tests relatively easily
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: BUT I don’ think I could write tests for the removed checkbox
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: that the functionality is still intact
[6:26pm] plach: sorry, it was referred to https://www.drupal.org/u/jhodgdon
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: AH
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: ok
[6:26pm] plach: I mean
[6:26pm] plach: https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883#comment-9559801
[6:26pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2394883 => Language setup for entity and field based rendering in views is independent, confusing UI, lacking test coverage [#2394883] => 52 comments, 13 IRC mentions
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[6:27pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: if you wish to add tests, feel free I was planning to do it myself but I won't certainly stop you ;)
[6:27pm] • plach should stop using greedy commas
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: ok, I’ll look into that and then we can discuss :)
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler1: wanna go next?
[6:29pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: I'm not entirely clear on what that option was meant to do do either, what I can say is that the codnitions it was applying are equivalent to our new joins on the data table
[6:29pm] plach: but we can study the remove comment more carefully on the issue ;)
[6:30pm] plach: * removed
[6:30pm] tstoeckler1: sure
[6:31pm] tstoeckler1: I worked on https://www.drupal.org/node/2415205
[6:31pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2415205 => ContentTranslationRouteSubscriber sets _admin_route incorrectly [#2415205] => 5 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:31pm] tstoeckler1: and https://www.drupal.org/node/2395627
[6:31pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2395627 => Do not remove 0 from config translation data [#2395627] => 12 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:31pm] tstoeckler1: Would be cool if someone could review the latter one
[6:32pm] tstoeckler1: I haven't yet followed up to reyero on https://www.drupal.org/node/2298687 sadly
[6:32pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2298687 => Fix interfaces implemented by Sequence/Mapping. Add a specific interface. Simplify both. [#2298687] => 56 comments, 25 IRC mentions
[6:33pm] tstoeckler1: But reyero pointed out a mistake that I made
[6:33pm] tstoeckler1: Which is good because I think we can reach consensus / compromise
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler1: do you think you can agree on that one soon?
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[6:34pm] tstoeckler1: I also thought of a way to decrease the scope oF that one
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler1: yay
[6:35pm] tstoeckler1: GaborHojtsy: yes I think so. because some of the points I disagreed with reyero were invalid as pointed out by him
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler1: thanks, sorry its hard to follow for me :)
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler1: I tagged your two issues for the D8MI sprint and will look at reviewing the second one :)
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler++
[6:36pm] tstoeckler1: (ie my disagreement was invalid)
[6:36pm] tstoeckler1: awesome thx
[6:36pm] tstoeckler1: I always forget that
[6:36pm] tstoeckler1: That's all
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: wanna go next?
[6:37pm] plach: tstoeckler++
[6:38pm] GaborHojtsy: no penyaskito
[6:38pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: wanna go next?
[6:38pm] rodrigoaguilera: GaborHojtsy: OK
[6:39pm] rodrigoaguilera: I didn't find and issue to work on :(
[6:40pm] penyaskito: I'm up! I'm up! :-P
[6:40pm] rodrigoaguilera: I've been reading issues and didn't find anything that fits me
[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: https://drupal.org/node/2397729 needs some tests :)
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2397729 => Allow to configure content language settings for all language-aware entity types [#2397729] => 30 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: also https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 only needs manual testing and reviews :)
[6:41pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 => Default language setting is hard to find [#2153937] => 21 comments, 10 IRC mentions
[6:41pm] rodrigoaguilera: I'll take that one then
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[6:42pm] rodrigoaguilera: perfect
[6:42pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: I'll go next
[6:42pm] rodrigoaguilera: With my time available I think two is enough
[6:42pm] rodrigoaguilera: GaborHojtsy++
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera++
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera: let me know if you need more help picking issues :)
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: go!
[6:43pm] penyaskito: I worked a bit on https://www.drupal.org/node/2397729
[6:43pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2397729 => Allow to configure content language settings for all language-aware entity types [#2397729] => 30 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:44pm] penyaskito: but just because of GaborHojtsy and plach pressure, so feel free to tackle the tests, rodrigoaguilera, and let me know if you need help
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[6:44pm] penyaskito: next I will work on reviewing https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937
[6:44pm] Druplicon: https://www.drupal.org/node/2153937 => Default language setting is hard to find [#2153937] => 21 comments, 11 IRC mentions
[6:45pm] penyaskito: that's it
[6:45pm] plach: penyaskito++
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[6:45pm] • plach should remember not to put pressure on people ;)
[6:45pm] rodrigoaguilera: thanks penyaskito
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: perfect, thanks :)
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: around?
[6:47pm] YesCT: Nothing really new for me
[6:47pm] YesCT: You mean to run through presentation
[6:47pm] YesCT: Bad phone
[6:47pm] YesCT: I still need to run through pres
[6:48pm] YesCT: NJ sprint this fri
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: great
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: let me know if you need input for the presentation review, but I trust your judgement
[6:50pm] YesCT: Thx
[6:50pm] penyaskito: plach: pressure is appreciated most of the times :))
[6:50pm] plach: :)
[6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: still here?
[6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: if not, who else did I miss?
[6:52pm] kristen_pol: sorry… on a meeting
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[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol: np
[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: that’s it for our meeting then :) you are all doing great!
[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: keep it up :) and always let me know if you need more help
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: d8mi++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: kristen_pol++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: pcambra++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: rodrigoaguilera++
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: tstoeckler++
[6:55pm] plach: d8mi++
[6:56pm] pcambra:  d8mi++
[6:56pm] pcambra: GaborHojtsy++