[5:54pm] GaborHojtsy: 5 minutes to meeting 
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: hey, who is here for the meeting?
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: ksenzee penyaskito rteijeiro vijaycs85 webflo YesCT ?
[6:01pm] ksenzee: hello
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[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: hey, happy 2014!
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[6:02pm] ksenzee: GaborHojtsy: to you too!
[6:02pm] ksenzee: hey I got Saboteur for Christmas! 
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy:
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[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: will you go to Boston in Feb? 
[6:03pm] ksenzee: yep!
[6:05pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: hello
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: cool 
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: hey
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: so first of all I wanted to thank everyone for a fantastic 2013!
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: we removed content translation in favour of entity translation, got in config schemas (which gained lots more prominence recently) and config translation itself 
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: as tstoeckler says we made Drupal 8 more translatable than Drupal 7 with *any number of contributed modules*
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: not a small achievement 
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: now to work out the remaining rough edges 
[6:08pm] YesCT: I'm here.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: 
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[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: second I would love to gather a great crowd of D8MI at http://szeged2014.drupaldays.org/ 
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: so if some of you are still thinking about attending I'd encourage you to do 
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: I just talked with Schnitzel who said 4-5 Amazee folks will come 
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: several of D8MI are on the scholarship waiting list too 
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: so the list in the sprint sheet may not be very impressive, but it will quickly build up
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: Szeged is also looking for content
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: eg. YesCT would be able to help here 
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: or penyaskito had this great undercover initiatives talk 
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: oh wait, that was pcambra 
[6:12pm] YesCT: yeah, I need to post a session. will do now.
[6:13pm] YesCT: szeged?
[6:13pm] Druplicon: szeged is located in Hungary, part of Central Europe. Is Dev Days 24-30 March 2014 https://groups.drupal.org/node/313468 It was the home of DrupalCon Europe 2008 from August 27th to the 31st. More info at http://szeged2008.drupalcon.org/
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: all right, as for what we should focus on now, pretty much beta blockers and criticals/majors 
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: plach is still doing an amazing + heroic work on https://drupal.org/node/1862202
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: any help there would be great
[6:17pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1862202 => Objectify the language system [#1862202] => 249 comments, 57 IRC mentions
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[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: the config scheme META was also made a critical and beta blocker: https://drupal.org/node/1910624
[6:18pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1910624 => [META] Introduce and complete configuration schemas in all of core [#1910624] => 73 comments, 26 IRC mentions
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: I think we need an issue for schema coverage of migrations based on prior conversations with chx too. He pointed out we may not be technically able to do that, so may need schema system changes and/or migration YAML format changes.
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: are you still on top of these / can help drive more reviewers there?
[6:21pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy:  I got few updates on that front
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: oh?
[6:21pm] vijaycs85: 1. We are not going to cover migration for now since it is not beta blocker and 8.0  candidate
[6:22pm] vijaycs85: 2. We got a main schema issue that checks for all schemas https://drupal.org/node/2167623
[6:22pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2167623 => Add test for all default configuration to ensure schema exists and is correct [#2167623] => 11 comments, 8 IRC mentions
[6:22pm] YesCT: nice.
[6:23pm] vijaycs85: 3. I have merged almost all sub-tasks and managed to reduce test fails from 2000+ to 300+ now
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: fantastic
[6:23pm] YesCT: sub-tasks?
[6:23pm] vijaycs85: 4. May be this week, will close all these subtasks as duplicate and get all people worked on them to the defaultTest issue for commit credit
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: as for the migration stuff, my understanding was that the schema is not capable, so we'll either need schema format changes or change the migration format which IS beta blocking, no?
[6:24pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: other day I had look and we can have something similar to views for migration
[6:25pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: i.e. main migrate.migration.*
[6:25pm] vijaycs85: and all plugins will go as sub-type
[6:25pm] vijaycs85: however ch_x recommended to create class for each plugin rather than creating them as sub-type
[6:25pm] YesCT: config meta?
[6:25pm] Druplicon: config meta is (match config) http://drupal.org/node/1938580 and (schema) http://drupal.org/node/1910624
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[6:26pm] YesCT: vijaycs85: are these the ones that will be closed: https://drupal.org/node/1910624 ?
[6:26pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1910624 => [META] Introduce and complete configuration schemas in all of core [#1910624] => 73 comments, 27 IRC mentions
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: if we can explain them in schema, that would be preferred, since then we don't need to custom-code it in potx / localize.d.o
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[6:27pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: YesCT the DefaultTest needs sub-tasks both http://drupal.org/node/1910624 and https://drupal.org/node/1653026. yes all of them under those 2  need to be closed 
[6:27pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1910624 => [META] Introduce and complete configuration schemas in all of core [#1910624] => 73 comments, 38 IRC mentions
[6:27pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1653026 => [META] Use properly typed values in module configuration [#1653026] => 178 comments, 50 IRC mentions
[6:27pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: yeah
[6:28pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: we excluded locale.config as well..
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[6:28pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: so once the main issue (DefualtTest) is in we need to work on it
[6:28pm] vijaycs85: alexpott++
[6:28pm] vijaycs85: alexpott++
[6:28pm] vijaycs85: alexpott++
[6:29pm] vijaycs85: for those great unittest for defaultConfigTest
[6:29pm] vijaycs85: they are lightening fast 
[6:29pm] alexpott: vijaycs85: slow tests are annoying
[6:30pm] vijaycs85: alexpott: they really encourage development...
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: indeed
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott++
[6:30pm] • vijaycs85 feels like heaven will test results in < 3 sec
[6:30pm] vijaycs85: when*
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: so you have one patch with all of those patches combined?!
[6:31pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: yep...
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: https://drupal.org/node/2167623 is quite monolithic 
[6:31pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: we have combined all of them already
[6:31pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2167623 => Add test for all default configuration to ensure schema exists and is correct [#2167623] => 11 comments, 9 IRC mentions
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah I see
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: "Will cause commit conflicts" is new to me 
[6:34pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, tagged https://drupal.org/node/2167623 for D8MI
[6:34pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2167623 => Add test for all default configuration to ensure schema exists and is correct [#2167623] => 11 comments, 10 IRC mentions
[6:34pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: there are few review comments  for views plugins from dawehner
[6:35pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: I'm started using views.filed.foo as type (instead of views_field_foo format) 
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: sounds like closing down all the sub-issues on the 2 METAs should be a priority so people are not confused
[6:35pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: after fixing user, comments, nodes 
[6:35pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: yeah... I have the list of committers for the one meta already
[6:35pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: hopefully will close them today
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: also closing those two METAs are beta blocker criticals so closing them down in favour of this one beta blocking critical would reduce the beta blocker issues open for this from 3 to 1 
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: sounds like a good win 
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[6:36pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy++
[6:36pm] YesCT: mm. it might be that reviewing the Add tests big issue will be easier? since ... it adds tests.
[6:38pm] vijaycs85: YesCT:  functionally yes, but coding standard POV, it is bit hard... I guess thats how big patch views work..
[6:38pm] • vijaycs85 is very new to it 
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: yeah it will be easier to prove it works since it adds the tests
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: and I understanding adding the tests without fixing the schema stuff would not work
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: so it makes sense, but it is a huge one, so getting reviews and ensuring it is all fine may be harder
[6:39pm] GaborHojtsy: we'll see
[6:40pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: yeah...  it is good to have test. gives a good goal...
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[6:47pm] penyaskito: too late maybe? 
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: hey
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: not too late 
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: any plans for Szeged? 
[6:50pm] penyaskito: 99% I'll be there, but nothing confirmed
[6:50pm] penyaskito: about sessions, I dont feel confident enough 
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: heh 
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: its amazing news you'll be there, no need for sessions if you are not confident 
[6:53pm] penyaskito: about work, I'm in the border of D8MI and IMP, and this week I've been working on d6->d8 migration of languages and date formats
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I've seen great pix about your press though 
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: good stuff 
[6:53pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I'm glad you picked that area 
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[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: circle issues our way if needs help 
[6:54pm] penyaskito: and I'm impatient and looking forward to plach patch & context overrides, those unblocks some issues I worked/wanted to work in the past
[6:54pm] rteijeiro: Yo!
[6:54pm] penyaskito: rteijeiro: whats up!
[6:55pm] rteijeiro: Hi! I'm late 
[6:55pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: sure I'll ping you for reviews 
[6:56pm] penyaskito: *: remember to ask YesCT whatever you want http://www.reddit.com/r/drupal/comments/1upwvo/im_yesct_aka_cathy_theys_ama/
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: indeed!
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: rteijeiro: hey, no problem 
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: so looks like I need to register on reddit now 
[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: there you go http://www.reddit.com/r/drupal/comments/1upwvo/im_yesct_aka_cathy_theys_ama/cekkbxx 
[7:02pm] GaborHojtsy: any other pressing topics or places where people need help? 
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: if none, in that case, I close this meeting 
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[7:06pm] YesCT:
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: rteijeiro++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott++
[7:06pm] YesCT: rteijeiro++
[7:07pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy++
[7:07pm] YesCT: alexpott++
[7:07pm] YesCT: penyaskito++
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee++
[7:07pm] YesCT: vijaycs85++
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: as always 
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: btw any chance you may be able to post your in-progress stuff to the twig issue? 
[7:07pm] YesCT: ksenzee++
[7:08pm] vijaycs85: YesCT++
[7:08pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy++
[7:08pm] rteijeiro: Karma Rush!!
[7:08pm] rteijeiro: YesCT++
[7:08pm] vijaycs85: penyaskito++
[7:08pm] rteijeiro: GaborHojtsy++
[7:08pm] rteijeiro: vijaycs85++
[7:08pm] GaborHojtsy:
[7:08pm] ksenzee: GaborHojtsy: gah! Will set a reminder for next gardening day.
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[7:11pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: ok, thanks a lot