[6:01pm] vijaycs85: hello, [6:01pm] attrib: . [6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: D8MI meeting! [6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: hey! [6:01pm] Druplicon: privet [6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here? [6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: brantwynn: das-peter e0ipso ksenzee lazysoundsystem penyaskito rteijeiro Schnitzel Sutharsan weal webflo YesCT: D8MI meeting? [6:02pm] qrbn is now known as q0rban. [6:03pm] YesCT: I'm here. [6:03pm] Sutharsan: Sutharsan: me too [6:03pm] rteijeiro: Me too [6:03pm] weal: I'm observing as I build a new server... [6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: yay! [6:03pm] • Druplicon throws confetti [6:03pm] das-peter: GaborHojtsy: Hi, I should be around [6:03pm] rteijeiro: Seville 40º, welcome to hell [6:03pm] akumar joined the chat room. [6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: first off, I'd like to thank everyone who was in Dublin last week [6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: it was outstanding! [6:04pm] q0rban is now known as qrbn. [6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: I've seen Johan Haeven's question on what was made progress on on the week, and multilingual seems the most mentioned answer [6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: we had a great in-person meeting, see https://groups.drupal.org/node/305313 for photo [6:04pm] Druplicon: https://groups.drupal.org/node/305313 => Drupal 8 Multilingual Initiative meeting on June 26th, 2013 => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention [6:05pm] lazysoundsystem: hi, i'm here [6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: we also got in some great important stuff around entity API, menus, stuff needed for config translation, language as config, node types as config, etc. [6:06pm] deepakaryan1988 left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [6:06pm] qrbn is now known as q0rban. [6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: also wanted to share some quotes from when I presented all our work [6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: "Multilingual support in #Drupal 8 looks brilliant " https://twitter.com/d8mi/status/351122330644267009 [6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: "Just WOW #drupal8 #multilingual #drupaldevdays @d8mi" https://twitter.com/d8mi/status/351119169548333057 [6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: so thanks all and hats off! [6:08pm] YesCT: rteijeiro: hi! you're in john's video. [6:08pm] StryKaizer left the chat room. (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [6:08pm] rteijeiro: YesCT: yeah!! [6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: [6:09pm] das-peter: GaborHojtsy: The issue queue was boiling - you guys did absolutely awesome work! [6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: das-peter: team++ [6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: also, this will be our last every-week meeting I think and we should be back to meet every other week [6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: so next one will be in 2 weeks and then 2 weeks ongoing [6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: next [6:10pm] penyaskito: Im here [6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: I have a compilation page with all the tidbits from Drupal 8 on my site now: http://hojtsy.hu/multilingual-drupal8 [6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: the early posts received thousands of views [6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: the hoped side effect of people actually working on the mentioned issues did not (yet?!) work out [6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: so not sure how effective is this to get people on those issues [6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: at least they will have an understanding that D8 vastly improved and will still not be 100% perfect [6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: and finally our board at http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/issues/focus is full of stuff [6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: there are lots of RTBC things [6:12pm] vijaycs85: [6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: we have 2 issues for change notice and we should be able to write those I hope [6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: I think plach needs all helping hands possible still [6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: so help with http://drupal.org/node/2004626, http://drupal.org/node/1966436, http://drupal.org/node/1998366, http://drupal.org/node/2019055 is extremely helpful [6:13pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/2004626 => Make non-configurable field translation settings available in the content language settings [#2004626] => Drupal core, content_translation.module, critical, needs review, 39 comments, 4 IRC mentions [6:13pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1966436 => Language module should use hook_entity_create() to set default language [#1966436] => Drupal core, language.module, normal, needs work, 21 comments, 4 IRC mentions [6:13pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1998366 => Improve the database schema of the node entity storage [#1998366] => Drupal core, node.module, critical, needs work, 95 comments, 2 IRC mentions [6:13pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/2019055 => Support language fallback on entity fields [#2019055] => Drupal core, entity system, critical, needs work, 14 comments, 2 IRC mentions [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: other than that I think the config translation issues and the config schemas need most love, second to plach's entity issues [6:16pm] likin joined the chat room. [6:16pm] likin: Hello. [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: because if we ever want config translation committed it better be "perfect" [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: as per http://buytaert.net/drupal-8-api-freeze we'd get one chance at it [6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: "If a single critical or major is filed as a result of these commits, we will favour rollback over going forward." [6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: sounds simple, eh [6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: so we should not go lightly with RTBC-ing it soon I think [6:18pm] attrib: but probably also not to late? [6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah the current thinking between core committers is that we went so far that we deserve it being committed [6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: but then we got one chance to get it right [6:19pm] akumar left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [6:19pm] YesCT: yeah [6:20pm] rteijeiro: roger! [6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: so we should have the config schemas in core and resolve our issues with the module that we know [6:20pm] q0rban is now known as qrbn. [6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: oh, one more announcement, and then I'm done [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: Kristen Pol's great stickers arrived in Dublin [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: most (all?) of you got one who were there [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: she will send more to Prague [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: also, the shirts did not arrive [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: those will come to Prague from Ireland thanks to Annertech [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: Stella, Alan, etc [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: stella++ [6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: [6:21pm] rteijeiro: greeat! [6:22pm] YesCT: stella++ [6:22pm] rteijeiro: stella++ [6:22pm] YesCT: dev days was great! [6:22pm] attrib: stella++ [6:22pm] lazysoundsystem: stella++ [6:22pm] Sutharsan: stella++ [6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: that's it for the announcementy-things, now anybody has issues to talk about? [6:22pm] YesCT: YesCT focus? [6:22pm] Druplicon: YesCT focus is config trans simple things, commit them; detection section http://drupal.org/node/1833022 help keep at rtbc and in https://drupal.org/node/1810370 [6:23pm] vijaycs85: stella++ [6:23pm] YesCT: those are in... [6:23pm] vijaycs85: YesCT++ [6:23pm] YesCT: so I could use something specific to watch/review. [6:24pm] YesCT: Druplicon: YesCT focus is get config trans ready for getting in core. [6:24pm] Druplicon: YesCT: Okay. [6:25pm] likin: Are there any staff to help? [6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: the language module route conversions are important [6:26pm] penyaskito: there are two approaches for https://drupal.org/node/2005778, so we can choose whatever we like more (languages are really special entities yet), but in either case the tabledrag is not working as desired [6:26pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2005778 => Convert language_admin_overview_form to a Controller [#2005778] => Drupal core, language.module, normal, needs work, 49 comments, 14 IRC mentions [6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: they help with wscii and help with making the language list a config entity list controller => no ugly alter needed so language can be config tr. integrated [6:27pm] Haza` is now known as Haza`Aw. [6:28pm] YesCT: likin: does https://drupal.org/node/2031209 sound like something that would be good for you? [6:28pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2031209 => Replace instance of {langcode} with {language_entity} [#2031209] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, needs work, 14 comments, 3 IRC mentions [6:28pm] penyaskito: webflo: GaborHojtsy: I couldnt find any issue for that weird behavior, do you know who we could ping for help? [6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I have a tabledrag solution in the mobile preview patch that works [6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: http://drupal.org/node/1741498 [6:28pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1741498 => Add a mobile preview bar to Drupal core [#1741498] => Drupal core, theme system, major, needs review, 188 comments, 10 IRC mentions [6:28pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: YesCT routing I can help ) [6:28pm] likin: YesCT: I will look at. [6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: webflo https://drupal.org/files/mobile-preview-1741498.186.patch [6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: you use #type => table [6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: and provide #tabledrag info there [6:29pm] jsacksick left the chat room. (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: and then $row['#attributes']['class'][] = 'draggable'; on the rows [6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: oh and make weight a weight field with '#attributes' => array('class' => array('weight')), [6:30pm] attrib: I would also need a pointer where I should help next [6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: that should be it [6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: any of plach's issues mentioned above [6:30pm] qrbn is now known as q0rban. [6:30pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: we already have that AFAICR [6:30pm] penyaskito: but Ill test with the patch [6:31pm] jerbob92 is now known as jerbob92-away. [6:31pm] piyuesh2_ left the chat room. (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [6:31pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: the problems seems to be with form=#type link like we have for translations information in locale_***_alter [6:32pm] attrib: Druplicon: attrib focus is check on of #2004626, #1966436, #1998366, #2019055 [6:32pm] Druplicon: attrib: Okay. [6:32pm] piyuesh23 joined the chat room. [6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: the holy issue is http://drupal.org/node/2004626 [6:32pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/2004626 => Make non-configurable field translation settings available in the content language settings [#2004626] => Drupal core, content_translation.module, critical, needs review, 39 comments, 5 IRC mentions [6:32pm] ashwini___ left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [6:32pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: see the comment https://drupal.org/node/2005778#comment-7609725 [6:32pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2005778 => Convert language_admin_overview_form to a Controller [#2005778] => Drupal core, language.module, normal, needs work, 49 comments, 15 IRC mentions [6:33pm] attrib: Druplicon: attrib focus is check one of these #2004626, #1966436, #1998366, #2019055 and holy #2005778 [6:33pm] Druplicon: attrib: Okay. [6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: yeah the bug was not clear to me from that comment [6:33pm] akumar joined the chat room. [6:33pm] penyaskito: it's on a comment, so it must be known, but could find any reference in d.o [6:34pm] penyaskito: is on locale_form_language_admin_overview_form_alter [6:36pm] vijaycs85 left the chat room. ("Leaving") [6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: yeah I don't know why it would mess us the weight drag-drop [6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: https://drupal.org/node/2031209#comment-7612101 may be closer than you think [6:37pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2031209 => Replace instance of {langcode} with {language_entity} [#2031209] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, needs work, 15 comments, 4 IRC mentions [6:38pm] YesCT: ah! [6:39pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: likin I pinged ralf, lets give it a couple hours. [6:40pm] likin: YesCT: I will look over. [6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I may only be able to look next week [6:41pm] Sutharsan: Thanks, all. Have to go. [6:41pm] Sutharsan left the chat room. (Quit: Sutharsan) [6:42pm] penyaskito: me too, read you later [6:42pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy++ [6:42pm] das-peter left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan++ [6:43pm] YesCT: likin: this one too: https://drupal.org/node/2017985 [6:43pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2017985 => ConfigTranslationManageForm.php standards cleanup to get ready for getting into core [#2017985] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, needs work, 19 comments, 10 IRC mentions [6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++ [6:43pm] YesCT: Sutharsan++ [6:43pm] YesCT: penyaskito++ [6:43pm] raviish left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: heh, its not always an array then [6:44pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: right. [6:44pm] q0rban is now known as qrbn. [6:44pm] qrbn is now known as q0rban. [6:45pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I wonder if we should make a list of core issues blocking getting config translation in... [6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: that is a great idea yup [6:46pm] YesCT: the @todo in there is a good start. [6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: http://drupal.org/node/2027857 [6:46pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/2027857 => Blocks operations cannot be altered [#2027857] => Drupal core, block.module, normal, reviewed & tested by the community, 24 comments, 1 IRC mention [6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: http://drupal.org/node/2031197 [6:46pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/2031197 => Language configuration entities should be created in English at all times [#2031197] => Drupal core, language.module, normal, reviewed & tested by the community, 14 comments, 1 IRC mention [6:46pm] YesCT: yeah. [6:46pm] YesCT: the schema things? [6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: http://drupal.org/node/2005778 [6:47pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/2005778 => Convert language_admin_overview_form to a Controller [#2005778] => Drupal core, language.module, normal, needs work, 49 comments, 1 IRC mention [6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: the schema things are either blocking or not [6:47pm] jcisio|aw is now known as jcisio. [6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I think they are blocking to have clean integration [6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: eg. we have language as a mapper added, but we don't have schema for it [6:47pm] YesCT: config meta? [6:47pm] Druplicon: config meta is (match config) http://drupal.org/node/1938580 and (schema) http://drupal.org/node/1910624 [6:47pm] YesCT: just all of those in http://drupal.org/node/1910624 ?? [6:47pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1910624 => [META] Introduce and complete configuration schemas in all of core [#1910624] => Drupal core, configuration system, normal, active, 24 comments, 30 IRC mentions [6:49pm] lucascaro__ is now known as lucascaro|away. [6:49pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: was there an issue that added language as a mapper? I'm looking to see if adding the schema was a followup [6:49pm] miro_dietiker joined the chat room. [6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah, views, field, language, node types are the main ones [6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: http://drupalcode.org/project/config_translation.git/commit/cf0dfd98ea74b88dc6e260838d1edbaf4715c40c [6:50pm] YesCT: https://drupal.org/node/2031185 maybe? [6:50pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2031185 => Create configuration schema for language config entity [#2031185] => Drupal core, language system, normal, reviewed & tested by the community, 5 comments, 3 IRC mentions [6:50pm] YesCT: 2031207 [6:50pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2031207 => Create EntityMapper for language config entity [#2031207] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, fixed, 12 comments, 2 IRC mentions [6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yup that one [6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: it is listed in the first round on https://drupal.org/node/1910624 for some reason [6:51pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1910624 => [META] Introduce and complete configuration schemas in all of core [#1910624] => Drupal core, configuration system, normal, active, 24 comments, 7 IRC mentions [6:51pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: also missing from that meta is the new language types system yml that just got in today [6:51pm] YesCT: yeah... I put it in there cause I thought it might be related to the language one there. [6:52pm] YesCT: the ones with - - (instead of -) are not strickly first round. [6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah, ok, maybe including it above may be better, and not among first round [6:52pm] YesCT: I'll move them. [6:52pm] akumar_ joined the chat room. [6:53pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: likin: ralf says he'll look at https://drupal.org/node/2031209#comment-7612101 immediately, so lets leave it for him. [6:53pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2031209 => Replace instance of {langcode} with {language_entity} [#2031209] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, needs work, 14 comments, 5 IRC mentions [6:53pm] rahul_ left the chat room. (Quit: Leaving) [6:53pm] akumar left the chat room. (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so generally i think schemas + listings to proper wscci [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: are the two things [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: + one internal issue inside config_translation to do change tracking like core does not do yet either [6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: but not sure what we'd even do there, so maybe it is for some contrib fun [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: if you change the source string, should the translation still be there or not, stuff like that [6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: currently it will be there [6:57pm] e0ipso_ joined the chat room. [6:57pm] YesCT: that's the one we were talking about [6:57pm] YesCT: when I mentioned that for content there is the checkbox for "mark other translations as outdated" [6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah [6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: but we don't have control of the original editing UI (eg. views, rules, etc.) [6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: when changes are made to the original [6:59pm] likin1 joined the chat room. [6:59pm] YesCT: oooo [6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so I think in core, we'll just leave the translation as-is [7:01pm] e0ipso left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [7:01pm] e0ipso_ is now known as e0ipso. [7:01pm] likin left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [7:01pm] YesCT: config translation? [7:01pm] Druplicon: config translation is http://drupal.org/project/config_translation and lets config like site name, or mail settings be translated. See also: http://drupal.org/node/1952394 [7:02pm] rteijeiro left the chat room. (Remote host closed the connection) [7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: I need to go! [7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: Will quickly post the meeting log [7:03pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++