[5:57pm] GaborHojtsy: meeting in 3
[5:58pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I'm supposed to be putting together a translation tools team for the DSWG
[5:59pm] GaborHojtsy: 2
[5:59pm] YesCT: new info.. https://localize.drupal.org/node/6433
[5:59pm] Druplicon: https://localize.drupal.org/node/6433 => 1000 new translatable strings for Drupal 8 and the future of localize.drupal.org => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[5:59pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: anyone besides @ksenzee, @herom and @hron84 that I should ping for it?
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[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: MEETING!
[6:00pm] YesCT: hi
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: hey :)
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: who else is here for the meeting?
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: franSeva, herom, penyaskito, plach, reyero, YesCT?
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: anyone else I did not list?
[6:02pm] franSeva: GaborHojtsy, hi!
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[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: hi
[6:04pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: hey
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, let me start :)
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[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: so after our discussion last week, I proposed a core conversation on l.d.o for AMS
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: https://amsterdam2014.drupal.org/session/working-group-future-localizedrupalorg
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: we need people to work on it its ridiculous now
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: I also rolled out several updates that ksenzee, herom, hron84 have worked on
[6:05pm] YesCT: And I'm supposed to be putting together a translation tools team for the DSWG.
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: and we did not parse twig or yml files yet on l.d.o due to 3 stupid software bugs :D
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: with those now covered, l.d.o found 1000 (thousand) new strings, see https://localize.drupal.org/node/6433
[6:06pm] Druplicon: https://localize.drupal.org/node/6433 => 1000 new translatable strings for Drupal 8 and the future of localize.drupal.org => 0 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: still is not parsing default shipped config which also has LOTS
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: cool, how is that going to happen? :)
[6:06pm] penyaskito: hi all
[6:06pm] franSeva: penyaskito, hi!!
[6:07pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I have a google doc which has a draft of working for the translation tools team, and just need people who can work on the wording to make the team exist.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah AFAIS some text will not make the team exist :/ I think it needs diligent and sustained grooming and contributions for a larger pool of people
[6:08pm] YesCT: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sltO9yQPIiOBrPCPi0-hkdzI_JsHQv615YmtNm1KElE/edit
[6:08pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: yes. that also.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I had a BoF on this in Munich and then neglected grooming the team… hoped it would happen in other ways, but it did not happen
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so now back to the drawing board pretty much
[6:08pm] YesCT: Once the team exists, they get to make decisions about prioritizing issue to work on and allocating DA staff to work on them.
[6:08pm] YesCT: (or so I understant)
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: my understanding was the DA does not yet have resources for this
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: it is great if they do
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[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I’d love to have a team that has power to do things, prioritizing issues which may or may not get resolved then is not necessarily useful work… so my aim would be for people to actually do things, which would help actually empower them
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[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: if you know of firm time commitment from the DA that a team like this can rely on that would be great
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[6:12pm] YesCT: My guess is that it would be 10 hours a month.
[6:13pm] YesCT: I think most teams have weekly 1 hour meetings. and then also check their queues.
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: 4h*number of team members commitment for 10h from the DA?
[6:16pm] • GaborHojtsy not sure that is a good deal
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: anyway, we should talk about it more later
[6:16pm] YesCT: tvn says the commitment might be less than that.
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: so if nod_ accepts the core convo, I’ll try and recruit a team and then will see if this time I will not suck keeping them together :)
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: if its not accepted as a core convo, it will be a Bof
[6:18pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: even without a formal team, I think the DSWG would value someone who can prioritize the release blocking issues and work with DA staff to help get them done
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I think we have the release blocking issues on the d.o issue listed
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[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: https://drupal.org/node/2267715
[6:19pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2267715 => Drupal.org (websites/infra) blockers to a Drupal 8 release [#2267715] => 20 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: all the known d.o issues
[6:19pm] YesCT: ok.
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: except if we also consider upgrading l.d.o from *D6* to D7 release blocking
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: that one is not there
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: BIG NEWS: I also worked on making D8.x now download alpha12 translations
[6:20pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: would you be willing to be the product owner, if the responsibilities are to advice the DSWG and make sure the DA staff is prioritizing things ok?
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: which got committed, so now when you test D8 it will download actual translations
[6:20pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: we can chat later...
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: this coupled with the l.d.o updates makes it possible to translate a lot more of D8 and test it
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: a known missing piece is the logger API (https://drupal.org/node/2285063)
[6:21pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2285063 => Support for Drupal 8 logger API [#2285063] => 15 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: which alone adds *9* new ways to declare a translatable strings
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: the times of t() as THE solution are LONG done
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: we’ll need to revise this whole extraction business in D9
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: D8 has like 30 ways to define translatable strings compared to 5-6 in D7
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: not something we an say D8 shines at
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: well, this is it for me, sorry for taking up so much time
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: wanna go next?
[6:23pm] YesCT: sure.
[6:24pm] YesCT: I reviewed https://drupal.org/node/2161801
[6:24pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2161801 => Update hook_help for Config translation module [#2161801] => 55 comments, 16 IRC mentions
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[6:24pm] YesCT: and noticed a bunch of small issues, which I opened.
[6:24pm] ddrhythm: Hi all.  I'm having a problem with menu translations
[6:24pm] ddrhythm: I'm using the lingotek module
[6:25pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: jhodgdon rtbc'd it, but it could maybe use a "ok, not terrible and wrong" from you.
[6:25pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy++
[6:25pm] ddrhythm: if I edit a menu item or edit a node and save, it untranslates my menu item or will remove that menu item from the translated language entirely
[6:25pm] YesCT: I figured out how to run the 8.x version of code_sniffer for https://drupal.org/node/1533250
[6:25pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1533250 => Make locale module pass Coder Review [#1533250] => 65 comments, 24 IRC mentions
[6:26pm] YesCT: and I'm hoping to post instructions for the committer who might want to review it so they can review it quick.
[6:27pm] YesCT: other than that, been collecting lessons learned from austin Friday and extended sprints, and getting planning going and distributed to others for amsterdam.
[6:27pm] franSeva: YesCT, I have write a post explaining how to configure it, based on drupal documentation
[6:28pm] YesCT: franSeva: ok. I'll ping you when I post my comment and you an check it.
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I’m confident that help issue is fine
[6:28pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: k. :)
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: ddrhythm: sorry you got into a middle of an IRC based meeting, we’ll finish this up in an hour :)
[6:28pm] ddrhythm: oh, I see.  Thanks.
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[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: great thanks
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: looks good
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: franSeva: wanna go next?
[6:30pm] franSeva: sure
[6:31pm] franSeva: I'm working in https://drupal.org/node/1533250
[6:31pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1533250 => Make locale module pass Coder Review [#1533250] => 65 comments, 25 IRC mentions
[6:31pm] YesCT: franSeva: tstockler rtbc'd that. :)
[6:31pm] franSeva: YesCT, I'm going to post a comment with all the use cases because the issue is really big
[6:31pm] franSeva: sorry
[6:31pm] franSeva: that one
[6:31pm] franSeva: CT, I'm going to post a comment with all the use cases because the issue is really big
[6:31pm] franSeva: https://drupal.org/node/1920876
[6:32pm] franSeva: sorry
[6:32pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1920876 => Add a tiny bit of state magic in the image.module and hide the Title and Alt groups when the related form items are disabled [#1920876] => 74 comments, 33 IRC mentions
[6:32pm] YesCT: ah, the state magic.
[6:32pm] YesCT: franSeva: I'm really familiar with that issue, so please ping me about anything there.
[6:32pm] franSeva: YesCT, I know it :)
[6:32pm] YesCT: :)
[6:32pm] franSeva: I have been talking with Javisr
[6:33pm] franSeva: and is going to work with me on it
[6:33pm] YesCT: franSeva: I wish we could have tests for the js user facing stuff on that.
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: franSeva: cool plan
[6:33pm] franSeva: and that's all
[6:33pm] franSeva: I'm 90% sure that I'm going to go to amsterdam :(
[6:33pm] franSeva: :_
[6:34pm] franSeva: :)
[6:34pm] YesCT: amsterdam!
[6:34pm] Druplicon: DrupalCon Amsterdam, Sept. 27 - Oct. 5. | FRIDAY SPRINTS: Add a sprint: https://amsterdam2014.drupal.org/contribution-sprints Sign up to mentor: https://amsterdam2014.drupal.org/sign-up-to-mentor | EXTENDED SPRINTS:  https://groups.drupal.org/node/427578 Sign up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlRKD0XsivA1dDRIZEFCeXR2ZF9tQzVTU0lRN2lWRnc&usp=drive_web#gid=0
[6:34pm] YesCT: we should all put our sprint availability in the google spreadsheet.
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: franSeva: 90% is good
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: also what YesCT said!
[6:36pm] franSeva: GaborHojtsy, will be 100% on monday :P
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: franSeva: cool
[6:36pm] • GaborHojtsy planning on AMS too
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: also if people wanna go to Drupalaton, I’ll be there too
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: http://2014.drupalaton.hu/ will be a cool event
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: rteijeiro among others will be there
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: hint hint
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: this is the hotel’s private mini-island: http://www.szentorban.com/zalakaros/images/stories//keszthely/keszthely-0003.jpg
[6:38pm] • GaborHojtsy will stop trolling the meeting
[6:38pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: wanna go next? :)
[6:39pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: sure
[6:40pm] vijaycs85: https://drupal.org/node/2270815 went in
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2270815 => Make schema testing code available as generic API [#2270815] => 39 comments, 17 IRC mentions
[6:40pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy++
[6:40pm] vijaycs85: reviewed https://drupal.org/node/2256679
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2256679 => Use config schema to determine which config entity properties to export regardless of whether they are public or protected [#2256679] => 59 comments, 14 IRC mentions
[6:40pm] vijaycs85: and https://drupal.org/node/2256521
[6:40pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2256521 => New plan, Phase 2: Implement menu links as plugins, including static admin links and views, and custom links with menu_link_content entity, all managed via menu_ui module [#2256521] => 70 comments, 17 IRC mentions
[6:40pm] vijaycs85: rerolled https://drupal.org/node/2183957 with review updates and may work on it more today
[6:41pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2183957 => Provide configuration schema for Migration module [#2183957] => 69 comments, 34 IRC mentions
[6:41pm] vijaycs85: that's it
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: could you help with the menu stuff? any questions there?
[6:43pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: checked with pwolanin yesterday. we need to add some unit tests...
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: are you still planning to work on that?
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: looks to me pwolanin is really in need of help and this is important for multilingual menus for us
[6:44pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: yeah, hopefully..
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: superb, thanks
[6:45pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: :) thanks
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: still around?
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: wanna go next? :)
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: nah
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: still here?
[6:49pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: I am
[6:49pm] penyaskito: sorry
[6:50pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: sorry, I am a bit busy
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: ok, np
[6:50pm] penyaskito: Im still recovering from surgery, so the only thing I did is reviewing https://drupal.org/node/2183957  because of public pressure :-P
[6:50pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2183957 => Provide configuration schema for Migration module [#2183957] => 69 comments, 35 IRC mentions
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: just wanted to say keep doing all the great work you do :)
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[6:50pm] penyaskito: plach++
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: oh, wait what surgery did you have? what did I miss?
[6:51pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: nothing big, but have to rest for some weeks :)
[6:51pm] plach: :)
[6:51pm] penyaskito: I hope vijaycs85 can take care of the failing tests there and I will check daily for reviewing
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: sorry for the pressure on https://drupal.org/node/2183957 :P
[6:52pm] vijaycs85: penyaskito: sure, will check fail
[6:52pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2183957 => Provide configuration schema for Migration module [#2183957] => 69 comments, 36 IRC mentions
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[6:52pm] vijaycs85: penyaskito++
[6:52pm] penyaskito: I'll be in Amsterdam for sure, and I will try to get to Drupalaton
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: I think we should get this in as we are closing down on missing schemas and this is a big piece
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: good plan!
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: still here? :)
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, who else did I miss?
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: btw happy to report on reyero’s behalf https://drupal.org/node/2277945 is RTBC
[6:56pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2277945 => Typed configuration implements TypedDataInterface improperly [#2277945] => 31 comments, 13 IRC mentions
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: will see what alexpott says
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: :)
[6:58pm] alexpott: GaborHojtsy: been concentrating on beta blockers
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott: makes sense, https://drupal.org/node/2277945 is doing some API cleanup/changes
[6:58pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2277945 => Typed configuration implements TypedDataInterface improperly [#2277945] => 31 comments, 14 IRC mentions
[6:58pm] alexpott: https://drupal.org/node/2143291 is close
[6:58pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2143291 => Clarify handling of field translatability [#2143291] => 88 comments, 21 IRC mentions
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott: yayayayaya
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott++
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott: thanks SO much for working on that
[7:00pm] alexpott: GaborHojtsy: well it was the next beta blocker that was easy to push on. Next up will be to tag team with you on the new config entity
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[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott: looking forward to working together again :)
[7:02pm] alexpott: GaborHojtsy: got a new patch on the silent not install your config issue
[7:02pm] alexpott: GaborHojtsy: that issue is a tricky one
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott: ?
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott: which one?
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: also, I think we should close the D8MI meeting :)
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks all for coming, keep rocking!
[7:06pm] alexpott: https://drupal.org/node/2140511
[7:06pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2140511 => Configuration file name collisions silently ignored for default configuration [#2140511] => 61 comments, 11 IRC mentions
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: franSeva++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: herom++
[7:06pm] ddrhythm: Yaaaaaaaay~I can ask my question because I still can't figure this crap out. :D
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott++
[7:07pm] ddrhythm: (lucky timing, I just checked back in the chatroom)