[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: D8MI meeting time!
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the meeting?
[6:01pm] dsnopek: I am!
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[6:03pm] YesCT: me
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib, attrib2, brantwynn, das-peter, fago, ksenzee, penyaskito, rvilar, vijaycs85, weal, webflo, YesCT: hi!
[6:03pm] dsnopek: YesCT: hello
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: (hopefully got the usual suspects :D)
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: dsnopek: hey
[6:03pm] YesCT: Schnitzel: ping. d8mi meeting.
[6:03pm] YesCT: robertdbailey: hi
[6:04pm] attrib2: hi
[6:04pm] penyaskito: here
[6:04pm] vijaycs85: here
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[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: Schnitzel too
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: heyhey
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso: hi!
[6:05pm] e0ipso: hello GaborHojtsy!
[6:05pm] YesCT: e0ipso: hi!
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: so first things first!
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: http://groups.drupal.org/node/296483
[6:05pm] Druplicon: http://groups.drupal.org/node/296483 => Drupal Dev Days Dublin sprints coming up with final chance for Drupal 8 API changes => 0 comments, 7 IRC mentions
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: anybody coming but did not sign up or incorrect data in the sheet?
[6:06pm] YesCT: dublin?
[6:06pm] Druplicon: dublin is http://dublin2013.drupaldays.org/ Last extended sprint before code freeze https://groups.drupal.org/node/296483 Sign-up sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqxsrc5BVkagdHdGdzhCdlRMVHFQbHl3RlhlRWhEZFE#gid=0
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: we'll try to organise some focused discussions with the appropriate people on location
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[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: eg. I discussed a translatable node/entity property discussion meting for Tue 10am to noon with alexpott, berdir and plach (with fago potentially remotely joining)
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: we don't need the *whole mass on this meeting*, we need people to work on other issues as possible
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: but we'll need hands to help plach
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: implement whatever was decided
[6:08pm] YesCT: helpingplach++
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[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: I think we will selforganize for other topics, but if people see any other pressing things that need a meeting (vs just sitting down coding/debugging), let's figure it out sooner than later
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, if no other topics now, but keep this in mind, and speak up anytime
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[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: the second thing
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: I started a short post series that highlights all the great changes we made
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: http://hojtsy.hu/multilingual-drupal8
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: I want these to be celebrations of things we did to get people excited but also to prepare people for the limitations of Drupal 8, to get them understand that it is not a silver bullet either
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: and then lead them into a list of relevant issues for each area that they can still work on
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: I think its simply jaw-dropping how we changed/expanded each step in the language experience
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: so hats of all
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: the "directing people to issues" part does not seem to work yet, but its just a one week old project
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: we'll see how it works out on the somewhat longer term
[6:13pm] attrib2: GaborHojtsy++
[6:14pm] attrib2: but sounds like a good idea
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: third thing  actually back to Dublin
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: many of us will arrive Sunday afternoon
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: we should figure out some dinner plans for those that are in town
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: I think we'll not solve this now but we should keep in mind, getting people together while on location may be hard
[6:17pm] attrib2: how about just setting a meeting point in Dublin and head or from there to lunch?
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: I think having an esimtated dinner time may be enough for now
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[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: eg. 7pm
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: I have no idea where to get reasonable food
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[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, we'll figure out details then
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: next is open floor about issues
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: anybody wants to discuss any of http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/issues/focus?
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: or something that is not there but should be
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso: do you still have power to update the seemingly final (hopefully, eh) complaints on http://drupal.org/node/1833022?
[6:21pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1833022 => Only display interface language detection options to customize more granularity [#1833022] => Drupal core, language.module, major, needs work, 201 comments, 51 IRC mentions
[6:22pm] e0ipso: GaborHojtsy: I've been meaning all week …
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso: I thought you may be running away screaming on the thought of that issue at this point
[6:22pm] e0ipso: GaborHojtsy: but with my job change I'm still adjusting
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso: oh!
[6:22pm] e0ipso: GaborHojtsy: sorry I haven't been responsive
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso: oh, no problem!
[6:23pm] YesCT: e0ipso: I think you've been incredibly committed and responsive.
[6:23pm] YesCT: sure, not like 1 day turn arounds or anything
[6:23pm] YesCT: but wow! you keep coming at it!
[6:25pm] YesCT: YesCT focus?
[6:25pm] Druplicon: YesCT focus is language on menus https://drupal.org/node/1945226 , test config translation https://drupal.org/node/2004710 , config translation standards meta https://drupal.org/node/2011290 and the almost done detection and section http://drupal.org/node/1833022
[6:26pm] YesCT: menus should ... please... be almost done.
[6:26pm] YesCT: but I think alexpott will find code that should be simplified.
[6:26pm] YesCT: config standards are coming along and need a few rerolls.
[6:26pm] YesCT: I thought robertdbailey might want to try one.
[6:26pm] dsnopek: YesCT: Ah, sweet! I failed the team at my attempt at menu -> EntityNG conversion. Glad to hear menus are moving along.
[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso++
[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso++
[6:27pm] YesCT: that leaves... https://drupal.org/node/2004710
[6:27pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2004710 => Add tests for all the forms to see if they have translate link in operations [#2004710] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, needs work, 29 comments, 10 IRC mentions
[6:27pm] • GaborHojtsy thinks e0ipso is a dedication role model
[6:28pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: or should I pick something from the focus board?
[6:28pm] e0ipso: GaborHojtsy: that's just too much!
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: dsnopek: well, not really the translatability of menus
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: dsnopek: the entity ng conversion would still be amazing!
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[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: dsnopek: and still possible for at least 10 more days
[6:29pm] dsnopek: GaborHojtsy: Ah, ok. I've fallen out of the loop.
[6:29pm] dsnopek: GaborHojtsy: Hrm, I can try to return to it but I'm super overloaded with client work. Probably won't be able to help with something that big.
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: if you want something new http://drupal.org/node/1998056 may be a good one
[6:30pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1998056 => Automatically update interface translations using cron [#1998056] => Drupal core, locale.module, normal, needs work, 36 comments, 9 IRC mentions
[6:30pm] dsnopek: GaborHojtsy: I'm a little worried that we're going to be shipping with some entities *not* on EntityNG, though.
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I hear tarballs for D8 may be available soon
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so l.d.o could have D8 translations in a first pass kind of way
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: which will make core translation pulling less hackish too
[6:31pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: thats mine, as far as Sutharsan is not available until Sunday
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: don't need help at all?  second pair of eyes?
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[6:31pm] YesCT: heh.
[6:32pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: sure I will, but maybe theres anything else
[6:32pm] attrib2: I'm heading out for now if nothing else is up. cu next week
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[6:32pm] penyaskito: I hope to have a patch for that tonight
[6:33pm] YesCT: those testing instructions look overwhelming.
[6:33pm] YesCT: could take a while just to figure out how to test it.
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib2: menus, menus .D
[6:33pm] penyaskito: YesCT: they took a lot for me, he
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I think YesCT can help there really
[6:33pm] YesCT: penyaskito: any hints to add/update the issue summary with?
[6:34pm] penyaskito: YesCT: sure, check #28 and #29
[6:34pm] YesCT: oh, wow.
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[6:36pm] attrib2: GaborHojtsy: i know, but it's hard to do this in a hostel somewhere in Ireland...
[6:37pm] penyaskito: pending things are: adapt to  #2021749, make it green, update summary testing steps, review
[6:37pm] penyaskito: #2021749?
[6:37pm] penyaskito: https://drupal.org/node/2021749
[6:37pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2021749 => Core should not force latest version number translations on sites [#2021749] => Drupal core, locale.module, normal, fixed, 5 comments, 2 IRC mentions
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[6:39pm] YesCT: wow! fixed already: https://drupal.org/node/2021749#comment-7555417
[6:39pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2021749 => Core should not force latest version number translations on sites [#2021749] => Drupal core, locale.module, normal, fixed, 5 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:40pm] YesCT: d8mi?
[6:40pm] Druplicon: d8mi is focus issues: http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/ Front page has novice issues links. Meetings are every Wed 4pm UTC  in #drupal-i18n. Extended sprints Dublin: https://groups.drupal.org/node/296483 Priorities: 1: Automatically update interface translations w cron: https://drupal.org/node/1998056 2: Config translation (translate site name): http://drupal.org/node/1952394 3: See localize.drupal.org?
[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah
[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott++
[6:41pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: we should put plach's stuff in there. ... to much stuff to focus
[6:41pm] GaborHojtsy: alexpott++
[6:41pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: catch!
[6:42pm] YesCT: So, is there anyone new-ish here who is overwhelmed by issue choices and wants something matched to them?
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: oh, heh, right
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: catch++
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[6:43pm] jsbalsera: Here
[6:44pm] YesCT: jsbalsera: you want an issue?
[6:44pm] jsbalsera: Yep, please
[6:44pm] • YesCT feels bad at not remembering everyones name.
[6:45pm] YesCT: jsbalsera: have you done d8mi issues before?
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[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: what kind of issues do you want to work on?
[6:45pm] jsbalsera: I've helped penyaskito and e0ipso in some issues before
[6:45pm] jsbalsera: you know, rerolling and that kind of things
[6:46pm] penyaskito: http://drupalcode.org/project/drupal.git?a=search&s=jsbalsera
[6:46pm] robertdbailey: YesCT: Yes, I'm interested in trying one.  Sorry, I've been tied up this week!  Send me a task link
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[6:46pm] YesCT: robertdbailey: ok. I'll find you one.
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[6:47pm] YesCT: robertdbailey: https://drupal.org/node/2017985
[6:47pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2017985 => ConfigTranslationManageForm.php standards cleanup to get ready for getting into core [#2017985] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, needs work, 7 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:47pm] YesCT: robertdbailey: you can try the reroll instructions...
[6:47pm] YesCT: reroll?
[6:47pm] Druplicon: reroll is http://drupal.org/patch/reroll
[6:48pm] YesCT: but if after while if the reroll is not going well, you might just redo the changes.
[6:48pm] YesCT: I'd recommend trying the reroll instructions first though.
[6:49pm] robertdbailey: k will do!
[6:50pm] YesCT: jsbalsera: for something very contained... and not super stressful, rerolling https://drupal.org/node/2017989 might be nice.
[6:50pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2017989 => ConfigTranslationUITest.php standards cleanup to get ready for getting into core [#2017989] => Configuration translation for Drupal 8, Code, normal, needs work, 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:51pm] jsbalsera: Cool, YesCT, thank you
[6:52pm] YesCT: jsbalsera: we could try and figure out a way to test the work others are doing on https://drupal.org/node/1754246
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[6:52pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1754246 => Convert Languages into Configurables [#1754246] => Drupal core, language system, normal, needs work, 86 comments, 11 IRC mentions
[6:53pm] YesCT: needs steps to reproduce?
[6:53pm] Druplicon: needs steps to reproduce is a tag on issues: http://drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?status%5B%5D=Open&issue_tags=Needs+steps+to+reproduce and a contributor task document saying how to do the task: http://drupal.org/node/1468198
[6:53pm] YesCT: jsbalsera: we could try and write some steps to test for the issue summary.
[6:55pm] jsbalsera: Ok, I'll start for the first one and then we can talk here about the others?  Also I was talking with attrib about helping him with the menus thing
[6:55pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: the menu issue may also be good, but that has a few hands
[6:55pm] YesCT: cools.
[6:56pm] jsbalsera: ok, so step by step
[6:56pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: about menu language
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: reviewing and helping with https://drupal.org/node/1754246 may be better  I think andypost will work on it as the lead
[6:56pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1754246 => Convert Languages into Configurables [#1754246] => Drupal core, language system, normal, needs work, 86 comments, 12 IRC mentions
[6:56pm] YesCT: there is in there some if module enabled language,
[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: you can just support
[6:56pm] YesCT: that then reads/relies on the language settings config.
[6:56pm] jsbalsera: Ok
[6:57pm] YesCT: I almost feel like that might want to check if content translation is on.
[6:57pm] YesCT: I'm not sure.
[6:57pm] YesCT: need to think about it some more.
[6:58pm] YesCT: jsbalsera: for the languages to config thing, we might just want to figure out something simple like: before patch, config language. after patch config language. check if works.
[6:58pm] YesCT: I'm not sure. need to read the whole issue.
[6:58pm] jsbalsera: Ah, ok
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[7:08pm] YesCT: so, only other thing I can think of... is having people who might be available remote during dublin to put themselves in the signup too.
[7:08pm] YesCT: and just mark it remote.
[7:12pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: that would be a good idea indeed
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[7:13pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso, jsbalserRwd, Schnitzel ^^^^
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[7:14pm] e0ipso: GaborHojtsy: I will do that!
[7:14pm] e0ipso: signup?
[7:14pm] Druplicon: signup is at http://drupal.org/project/signup .  It provides an interface that lets people sign up for nodes that have a CCK Date field associated with them, and get notifications prior to the date.
[7:14pm] GaborHojtsy: dublin?
[7:14pm] Druplicon: dublin is http://dublin2013.drupaldays.org/ Last extended sprint before code freeze https://groups.drupal.org/node/296483 Sign-up sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aqxsrc5BVkagdHdGdzhCdlRMVHFQbHl3RlhlRWhEZFE#gid=0
[7:14pm] GaborHojtsy: e0ipso: ^^^^
[7:15pm] e0ipso: GaborHojtsy++
[7:19pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I think the fails on menu add language https://qa.drupal.org/pifr/test/552243
[7:19pm] YesCT: are from the new default language stuff in menu test.
[7:21pm] YesCT: see interdiff on https://drupal.org/node/1945226#comment-7546287
[7:21pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1945226 => Add language selector on menus [#1945226] => Drupal core, menu.module, normal, needs work, 131 comments, 30 IRC mentions
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[7:22pm] YesCT: I wonder if that's testing if menu items are saved with the site default, even without content translation/language module enabled.
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