[5:00pm] GaborHojtsy: meeting time!
[5:00pm] GaborHojtsy: anybody here for the D8MI meeting?
[5:00pm] steinmb: steinmb raises his hand
[5:00pm] GaborHojtsy: sdboyer: hey
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[5:02pm] GaborHojtsy: steinmb: hey  rather
[5:02pm] GaborHojtsy: anybody else? Sutharsan, reyero, YesCT?
[5:03pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: so chx told me he wants to see the config metadata patch RTBC ASAP, so that key people are not locked up there
[5:03pm] YesCT: huh? what?  yeah. I'll have to get in the car at some point. but I'm here.
[5:03pm] steinmb: seen   reyero?
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[5:03pm] GaborHojtsy: das-peter: hi!
[5:04pm] das-peter: GaborHojtsy: Hi
[5:04pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I just posted steps to test drive that I did. Next I'll post my questions from my notes.
[5:04pm] YesCT: if et-ui is any indication, we should comb through this for docs and comments with a fine tooth comb.
[5:05pm] YesCT: we need to check the gates.
[5:05pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah, we can do that optionally after commit as well
[5:05pm] YesCT: well.. we could if we get the right committer...
[5:05pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: haha, yup
[5:05pm] das-peter: GaborHojtsy: So for now all the node / new entityNG patches will base on the comment patch itself. I'm fine with that. I'll start to adjust the data table patch asap to adopt the translation ui changes.
[5:06pm] GaborHojtsy: das-peter: cool
[5:06pm] steinmb: Druplicon: log pointer?
[5:06pm] Druplicon: #drupal-i18n is not logged; no URL exists.
[5:06pm] steinmb: doh!
[5:06pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so the reality is the metadata patch should not be required for the factory patch or vice versa
[5:07pm] GaborHojtsy: steinmb: I'll post specific logs for the meeting only after the meeting as for all previous ones
[5:07pm] GaborHojtsy: steinmb: logged from my local client
[5:07pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: you mean ideally, or in reality?
[5:07pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I think in reality
[5:07pm] steinmb: thanx, since I need to dash in 15 minutes
[5:08pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so for D8MI, we could take the metadata patch not committed for a bit longer, but in reality it keeps key people like sun, effulgentsia, alexpott, heyrocker, etc. engaged here, who are needed on other issues in other initiatives
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[5:09pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so I think the idea is to get it in and polish further afterwards to free up those people
[5:09pm] YesCT: ok.
[5:10pm] YesCT: so maybe a day or so on that to get it ready and then put it up for rtbc to see if can move one.
[5:10pm] YesCT: move on.
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[5:11pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: ok
[5:12pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: thanks for all your help
[5:12pm] GaborHojtsy: it certainly needs to pass tests too
[5:12pm] YesCT: sure thing.
[5:13pm] YesCT: we will at least need to (should?) make the issue summary match the more recent patch when we rtbc it so as not to confuse the committer.
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[5:15pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: that too
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[5:16pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: its right at the brink of #200  http://drupal.org/node/1648930#comment-6741162
[5:16pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1648930 => Introduce configuration metadata and use for translation => Drupal core, configuration system, critical, needs work, 196 comments, 82 IRC mentions
[5:16pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: is it ok with you if I attach as just a text file (not embed in a comment) a cut and paste from my talking out loud in irc from earlier? it includes some responses from you.
[5:16pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: sure
[5:17pm] YesCT: k.
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[5:21pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: still around?
[5:21pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: yes
[5:21pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: but will go in 15
[5:21pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: so seems like no more todo items in the summary for http://drupal.org/node/1804688 ?: )
[5:22pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1804688 => Download and import interface translations => Drupal core, locale.module, major, needs work, 45 comments, 18 IRC mentions
[5:22pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: neither in the code
[5:22pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: yes. It is  near completion
[5:22pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: I thought I overlooked two of them
[5:22pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: ok, so does this mean it should be well reviewed now and no (major) changes expected?
[5:23pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: yeah there seem to be three todos added indeed
[5:23pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: the last one has an issue link though
[5:24pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: yes. It would be cool if you can find a reviewer
[5:24pm] GaborHojtsy: anyway, steinmb might want to review
[5:24pm] GaborHojtsy: or attiks ?!
[5:24pm] GaborHojtsy:
[5:24pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: http://drupal.org/node/1804688
[5:24pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1804688 => Download and import interface translations => Drupal core, locale.module, major, needs work, 45 comments, 19 IRC mentions
[5:24pm] GaborHojtsy: I've asked balintk but he said he is busy with the UI….
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[5:26pm] GaborHojtsy: ClemensTolboom: you aroung?
[5:26pm] GaborHojtsy: around?
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[5:29pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: well, will keep looking for reviewers
[5:29pm] ClemensTolboom: GaborHojtsy: for 10 mins
[5:29pm] GaborHojtsy: ClemensTolboom: looking for people to review http://drupal.org/node/1804688  if you happen to have some time later
[5:29pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1804688 => Download and import interface translations => Drupal core, locale.module, major, needs work, 45 comments, 20 IRC mentions
[5:29pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: thanks a lot. I have to travel now, will be back online later
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[5:30pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan++
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[5:30pm] sdboyer: GaborHojtsy: hey hey
[5:30pm] ClemensTolboom: GaborHojtsy: I'm afraid to run into the same troubles … which is kinda waste of resource
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[5:33pm] GaborHojtsy: sdboyer: sorry, was mispininging you here, in the middle of a D8Mi meeting
[5:33pm] GaborHojtsy: sdboyer: autocomplete
[5:33pm] sdboyer: GaborHojtsy: ah ok
[5:33pm] GaborHojtsy: ClemensTolboom: ok, hm
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[5:35pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hi!
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[5:35pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: hi
[5:36pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hey, how is the factory patch going?
[5:37pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: I didn't make too much progress yet so I guess I'll look for some inspiration tonight
[5:37pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: I kind of got lost with Context/Factory/Plugins/...etc..
[5:38pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: The thing is when you start separating Factory and Context things get a bit complex
[5:39pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hm, yeah
[5:39pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: while on the other side it's true the current patch mixes both things maybe too much
[5:40pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: I think it would be great to have some discussions going there from people, because its a complex thing
[5:40pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: on how to abstract certain contexts and derive language
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[5:40pm] GaborHojtsy: xjm: hi!
[5:40pm] xjm:
[5:40pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Specially I'd like sun to provide some feedback, if you happen to see him around
[5:41pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: yeah, I wanted to update the issue summary so that it is easier to understand what is going on
[5:41pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: that helped for the metadata patch
[5:42pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: because as it is looking now I'll be trying to replace his ConfigFactory by a real one with plugins
[5:43pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Well, yes, I'm thinking I will allow myself until tomorrow morning to think of options
[5:45pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: ok, I'll definitely not have time today to update the summary (and probably not over the weekend either), but I can take a look on Monday
[5:45pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: based on your up to date patch at that time
[5:45pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: np, I'll do something, one way or the other, over the weekend, and will update the patch
[5:46pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: I mean the summary
[5:46pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: superb, thanks!
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[5:49pm] YesCT: time to get in the car and then zoo etc so I'll check back in on things later tonight.
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[5:51pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: k
[5:51pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
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[5:53pm] GaborHojtsy: any other issues people wanted to talk about?
[5:53pm] YesCT is now known as YesCT|car.
[5:53pm] xjm: I just posted followup on http://drupal.org/node/1658846
[5:53pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1658846 => Add language support to node access grants and records => Drupal core, node system, major, needs review, 95 comments, 23 IRC mentions
[5:54pm] GaborHojtsy: xjm: woot
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[5:55pm] GaborHojtsy: xjm: thanks for that, looks like we still need to figure out what people would rather see for the non-language-aware API
[5:56pm] GaborHojtsy: xjm: I think writing all records sounds like a fine idea
[5:56pm] GaborHojtsy: xjm: instead of doing more query mumbo-jumbo
[5:56pm] xjm: heh indeed
[5:56pm] vraja: I'm trying to do multilingual site (english/spanish) but I need to do MANUAL translations not the automatic drupal packages. Or can I use those and tweak it somehow?  Can anyone suggest a good way to toggle between the two? (quick tabs? pages? views?)
[5:57pm] vraja: (tried a lot of the tools, no luck so far)
[5:59pm] GaborHojtsy: xjm: posted reply on the issue
[5:59pm] GaborHojtsy: I think this concludes our official meeting time!
[5:59pm] GaborHojtsy: next meeting on next Wed
[5:59pm] GaborHojtsy: !
[5:59pm] GaborHojtsy: and then the final meeting on the Fri the last day before the freeze
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: and I think we'll likely return to Wed meetings every other week after that
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: issues to review at http://hojtsy.hu/d8mi/focus
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks all!