18:01 HEYHEY 18:01 meeting time 18:01 who is here for the D8MI meeting? 18:01 me 18:02 ⇐ pcambra quit (~pcambra@host81-149-89-104.in-addr.btopenworld.com) Remote host closed the connection 18:02 attrib, eiriksm_, hchonov, herom, kristen_pol, markcarver, Patrick_Storey, penyaskito, rodrigoaguilera, sebcorbin, skyred, Sutharsan, vijaycs85, webflo, YesCT: hi all! 18:03 HI 18:03 ni hao 18:03 → rvilar joined ← markcarver left 18:03 hi 18:03 hello 18:04 → rvilar_ joined ⇐ rvilar quit 18:05 hello! 18:05 ⇐ dinarcon quit (~dinarcon_@190.212.6.201) Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 18:05 hi 18:05 Hi! Did you clear your cache? 18:06 rvilar_ → rvilar 18:06 yay, cool 18:07 so announcements :) RC3 is out now :) D8 is to be released on the 19th, so there may or may not be an RC until then (not going to be according to current rules, but they may still make some changes) 18:07 as per catch on contribute channel earlier 18:07 lots of party planning going on. :) 18:08 that means the end is VERY near and it is not very likely that much will get patched at this point, so if you are working on something it either must be "rc target" to get in at this point or be in 8.0.x or 8.x.0, etc. 18:09 ok, that's it for announcements 18:09 ⇐ dmckenna quit (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) Read error: Connection reset by peer 18:09 8.0.1 should be soon and 8.1.0 should not take much more than 6 months either 18:09 so both are reasonably close (for those patches) 18:09 → nonsie joined (~nonsie@173-164-76-29-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 18:10 ok, YesCT wanna go next? 18:10 sure. 18:11 2578377 18:11 https://drupal.org/node/2578377 => Make translatable docs consolidated and better for developers [#2578377] => 67 comments, 1 IRC mention 18:11 went in, which is great. 18:12 https://www.drupal.org/node/2600078 is rtbc 18:12 https://www.drupal.org/node/2600078 => Correct syntax for data type documentation in TranslationManager.php [#2600078] => 23 comments, 10 IRC mentions 18:12 and that was kinda fun. 18:13 started off with "just" fixing standard, and then led to thinking about if the types were correct at all, which led to learning about how the code actualy works, and thinking about if it was inteneded to work that way. 18:13 which is kinda a typical pattern. 18:13 looking at small bits of code allowed that kind of thinking. 18:13 sometimes looking at giant patches is so overwelming that thinking is difficult to do. 18:13 ⇐ Sutharsan quit (~sutharsan@46.145.215.206) Remote host closed the connection 18:14 YesCT: these look great, thanks 18:14 → dmckenna joined (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) 18:14 really happy for 2578377 should help people understand it better 18:14 there looks to be some opportunity for test coverage in the language manager area. 18:14 but I have the feeling that that is not the most urgent thing for us. :) 18:15 tags? 18:15 See "Issue tags?" 18:15 Issue tags? 18:15 Issue tags are issue tags are special: http://drupal.org/node/1207020 and topical: http://drupal.org/node/1208166 18:15 rc? 18:15 Drupal 8 is in its release candidate phase! https://www.drupal.org/node/2598668 | Also see https://www.drupal.org/core/d8-allowed-changes#rc and http://drupal.org/core/release-cycle#rc 18:15 YesCT: thanks! 18:16 webflo: https://www.drupal.org/core/d8-allowed-changes#rc might be the one you are looking for. 18:16 or the link is in there to webchicks post 18:16 ⇐ nonsie quit (~nonsie@173-164-76-29-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) Ping timeout: 240 seconds 18:17 oh crumbs. that got changed to be a circlular link back to that page ha! 18:17 Haza` → Haza`Aw 18:17 YesCT: yeah nt the most urgent 18:18 so. 18:18 I started reviewing https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394#comment-10524532 18:18 https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394 => Add back the ability for install profiles (or at least distros) to pre-select a language or modify the language-selection screen [#1386394] => 32 comments, 7 IRC mentions 18:18 but I want to look carefully at the test coverage there, and try some manual testing to see if it matches the test coverage results. 18:18 → naveenvalecha joined (~naveenval@117.206.208.253) 18:19 other thing kinda on my list is major triage. 18:19 → dinarcon joined (~dinarcon_@190.212.6.201) 18:19 major issue triage? 18:19 major triage meta? 18:19 major triage meta is https://www.drupal.org/node/2474049 18:19 there it is. 18:19 that's it for me. 18:19 is anyone waiting on me for anything? 18:19 → nonsie joined ⇐ dmckenna quit 18:20 YesCT: these are good ones to work on IMHO :) thanks a lot 18:20 YesCT++ 18:20 mm. https://www.drupal.org/node/2580505 is on my list too. 18:20 https://www.drupal.org/node/2580505 => Improve FormattableMarkup documentation [#2580505] => 27 comments, 8 IRC mentions 18:20 YesCT: and let us know when-if you need help reviewing some stuff 18:20 or in any other way really 18:21 :) 18:21 herom: wanna go next? 18:22 GaborHojtsy: yeah. 18:22 ⇐ naveenvalecha quit (~naveenval@117.206.208.253) Client Quit 18:22 This week I was able to finish my biggest work on potx https://www.drupal.org/node/1933988 although integration with l10n_server still remains. 18:22 https://www.drupal.org/node/1933988 => Support for Drupal 8 shipped configuration translatables with external dependencies (in effect contrib) [#1933988] => 38 comments, 10 IRC mentions 18:23 → dmckenna joined (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) 18:23 there were also two smaller fixes https://www.drupal.org/node/2604924 and https://www.drupal.org/node/2604382 which had Gabor's help too. 18:23 https://www.drupal.org/node/2604924 => Plural strings are not supported in config [#2604924] => 14 comments, 2 IRC mentions 18:23 https://www.drupal.org/node/2604382 => Undetect translatable class names in non-translation situations. [#2604382] => 10 comments, 1 IRC mention 18:24 herom: thanks a lot, these are going to be huge 18:24 and a one-line fix for using potx as a standalone drush plugin at http://cgit.drupalcode.org/potx/commit/?id=c5b7c70 before ... 18:24 ⇐ dinarcon quit (~dinarcon_@190.212.6.201) Quit: This computer has gone to sleep 18:24 releasing the 7.x-3.0-ALPHA1 18:25 ↔ dinarcon popped in 18:25 nice! 18:25 ¡Eso sí que es! 18:26 It would be great if people could test potx alpha1 on drush (especially as a standalone drush) 18:26 since there seems to be different set ups for that, and some issues have been reported before with them. 18:27 that's it for me. 18:27 especially on Drupal 8 I guess ;) 18:27 modules and core 18:28 herom++ 18:28 herom: huge thanks for all your hard work' 18:28 ! 18:28 ⇐ rkoller quit (~rkoller@ipservice-092-211-005-020.092.211.pools.vodafone-ip.de) Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com 18:28 :) 18:28 herom: can you make an issue task for doing that manual testing and add some directions? 18:28 webflo: wanna go next? 18:28 herom: we can use that to collect feedback and help people do the testing. 18:28 yeah sure. 18:29 YesCT: yeah, I'll make one. good idea. 18:29 herom++ 18:29 i don't have any D8MI related patches in the queue. i am currently deep in the migrate woods. i write migration for node and userreference fields 18:30 and i give talk about d8 multilingual at drupal user group berlin tomorrow 18:31 webflo: oh, nice 18:31 webflo: is it the demo talk / workshop or a features talk or your own? :) 18:31 sebcorbin → sebcorbin`away 18:32 don't know yet :) i think cover some high level concepts. like config (schema and translation) 18:32 ⇐ dmckenna quit (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) Read error: Connection reset by peer 18:32 and the new entity api. how to access translations 18:33 webflo: ah, ok :D 18:33 webflo: you can point them to the D8 multilingual demo at drupal8multilingual.org for trying it out :) 18:33 webflo++ 18:33 penyaskito: wanna go next? 18:33 basically my highlights from the multilingual tidbits :) 18:33 GaborHojtsy: sure 18:34 The language migration landed https://www.drupal.org/node/2596793 18:34 https://www.drupal.org/node/2596793 => Migrate legacy languages to configurable language entites [#2596793] => 27 comments, 11 IRC mentions 18:34 I'm not actively working on anything else at the moment 18:34 and I'll talk about multilingual in drupalcamp.be leuven on Friday :) 18:35 I also have tstoeckler report :) 18:35 tstoeckler++ 18:35 tstoeckler: I worked on: https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394 (needs reviews, YesCT is reviewing), https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212 (could use reviews, but is still postponed. Badly needs a plan what to do about usability of the config translation Form), In General needs review: https://www.drupal.org/node/2577761 , In General are now seeing some action but could use some championing: https://www.drupal.org/node/2507235 , https://w 18:35 https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394 => Add back the ability for install profiles (or at least distros) to pre-select a language or modify the language-selection screen [#1386394] => 32 comments, 9 IRC mentions 18:35 https://www.drupal.org/node/2546212 => [PP-1] Entity view/form mode formatter/widget settings have no translation UI [#2546212] => 39 comments, 18 IRC mentions 18:35 https://www.drupal.org/node/2577761 => We need a way to dynamically alter the list of config names for config mappers [#2577761] => 34 comments, 12 IRC mentions 18:35 https://www.drupal.org/node/2507235 => EntityType::getLowercaseLabel() breaks translation [#2507235] => 4 comments, 1 IRC mention 18:36 penyaskito: woot, I think you have your regular slides? 18:36 GaborHojtsy: yep, thanks :) 18:36 → dmckenna joined (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) 18:36 noted. 18:37 that's it from me (and tobias) 18:38 penyaskito: great, any plans to work on more migrate issues? 18:38 penyaskito: trying to figure out how can we get people on them really :D 18:38 GaborHojtsy: probably, it would be a good use of my time this close to release 18:39 penyaskito: ha, ok, let me know if you need reviews or anything else :) 18:39 penyaskito: I think phenaproxima postponed the node migration which should be possible now 18:40 i18n_strings to config_translations is a fun task :) 18:40 penyaskito: I think we missed the last link from tobias there. 18:40 webflo: haha, yeah :D 18:40 → Sebba joined (~Thunderbi@tm.84.52.181.59.dc.cable.static.telemach.net) 18:41 YesCT: penyaskito: right, I only looked at the expanded links 18:41 penyaskito: do you have the missing one? 18:41 https://www.drupal.org/node/2571371 18:41 https://www.drupal.org/node/2571371 => [PP-1] Editor settings cannot be translated [#2571371] => 6 comments, 1 IRC mention 18:42 ha, that one is fun too :D 18:42 we crossposted there but tstoeckler provided better info :D 18:42 penyaskito++ 18:42 tstoeckler++ 18:43 ⇐ dmckenna quit (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) Read error: Connection reset by peer 18:43 maxocub: hi, wanna go next? 18:43 GaborHojtsy: hi, sure 18:43 I worked on https://www.drupal.org/node/2577761 18:43 https://www.drupal.org/node/2577761 => We need a way to dynamically alter the list of config names for config mappers [#2577761] => 34 comments, 13 IRC mentions 18:43 I finally succeeded to make the tests pass 18:44 With @tstoeckler's help 18:44 maxocub: yayay! 18:44 And as @penyaskito said, it needs review 18:45 ⇐ Sebba quit (~Thunderbi@tm.84.52.181.59.dc.cable.static.telemach.net) Ping timeout: 265 seconds 18:45 And that's all, I'm gonna look for another issue to work on soon 18:46 → plach joined ⇐ alexpott quit 18:47 maxocub++ 18:48 maxocub: so tsoeckler is not eligible to review anymore? 18:48 maxocub: should we try reyero? 18:48 → dmckenna joined (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) 18:49 GaborHojtsy: He wrote the patch, I wrote the test, so someone else should review, no? 18:50 maxocub: yeah 18:50 will try to ping it to reyero 18:50 I *think* he said last week that he would be interested to review 18:50 ok, then I'll go next 18:50 I worked on localize stuff mostly 18:51 worked with drumm to improve parsing things, by moving the tgz download/extraction/parsing out of NFS to /tmp, we reduced the time to parse D8 from 42 minutes to 1.5 minutes :D 18:51 rodrigoaguilera → nodrigoaguilera 18:51 wow 18:51 so rolling out updates to parsing should be a lot less painful 18:51 also turned up the lever on .po file export frequency on l.d.o 18:52 it was set to look at releases to update .po files every 3 days (and it was pretty busy with that already) 18:52 now it is set for every 3 hours 18:52 we'll see if this improves anything, or given the frequency of change will keep being similar update times 18:52 (tstoeckler asked last week how often do we update .po files) 18:53 ⇐ plach quit (~plach@host70-188-static.61-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it) Ping timeout: 265 seconds 18:53 also added time info to files at https://localize.drupal.org/download 18:53 I also now finished updating ALL the articles in http://hojtsy.hu/multilingual-drupal8 18:53 so they should all be fully up to date :) 18:53 new articles to come 18:54 that's it 18:54 I think that's all the people who said hi, no? 18:54 kristen_pol: are you here? 18:54 ⇐ dmckenna quit (~DamienMcK@99-114-170-68.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) Read error: Connection reset by peer 18:55 yes 18:55 kristen_pol: 5 days 18 hours ago tell kristen_pol And finally, filed https://www.drupal.org/node/2604604 for the other question about modules partly in core 18:55 was in a meeting but will do a quick status 18:55 I was heavily focused on the D8 contrib tracker project over the last week 18:55 https://www.drupal.org/project/contrib_tracker 18:56 but am going to have our junior devs focus on that now 18:56 I did see that tobias added tests here: https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394 18:56 https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394 => Add back the ability for install profiles (or at least distros) to pre-select a language or modify the language-selection screen [#1386394] => 32 comments, 10 IRC mentions 18:56 kristen_pol: I think thats crucial info that people (will) need, so great :) (contrib tracker) 18:57 and YesCT started to review 18:57 but if someone wants to review that, that would be cool 18:57 other than that, I'm going to have Patrick_Storey start building the demo profile site on RC3 so we can get that config into the demo install profile 18:58 yeah, if I start again, I'll update my comment. 18:58 he knows and is hoping to start this afternoon 18:58 otherwise, dont let me hold anyone back from trying that out. 18:58 yeah… so if someone has time to review https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394 then that's cool… 18:58 all for me 18:58 https://www.drupal.org/node/1386394 => Add back the ability for install profiles (or at least distros) to pre-select a language or modify the language-selection screen [#1386394] => 32 comments, 11 IRC mentions 18:59 kristen_pol: yeah its great if it can be updaed, it will validate the doc and produce up to date config :) 18:59 Patrick_Storey: just make sure to keep it working with the install code, but that should not be that hard, I am sure kristen_pol knows the tricks she started with 18:59 in the meantime I gathered info about the final RCs 19:00 so as per 19:00 https://www.drupal.org/node/2608078 now 19:00 https://www.drupal.org/node/2608078 => drupal 8.0.0-rc3 => 0 comments, 2 IRC mentions 19:00 Drupal 8.0.0 will be released on November 19th 2015. We will also issue a final release candidate on November 12 in preparation for the release. 19:00 so things will be really tied down in a few days 19:00 wow. 19:01 → vasi1186 joined ⇐ hostdog quit 19:01 who else did I not ask? 19:01 → hostdog and dmckenna joined 19:02 ok, if nobody, then thanks again all for coming and for doing all the amazing work 19:03 GaborHojtsy: there was also the announcement at https://groups.drupal.org/node/488223 but I think lots of people already seen that. 19:03 https://groups.drupal.org/node/488223 => Help translate the Drupal 8 announcement and press release => 15 comments, 3 IRC mentions 19:03 we are in the doorway to make all the great things available to people :) 19:03 herom: yeah true :) good idea 19:04 soon a huge amount of people will dive into all the things we did, its really exciting! 19:04 we still have 2 more meetings before the release but the last one on teh 18th may not be very productive ;D 19:05 but next week will still be 1 day before the final RC 19:05 so we have some chance to get some final fixes in 19:05 see you next week then (and online in the meantime!) 19:05 d8mi++ 19:05 kristen_pol++ 19:05 ⇐ vasi1186 quit (~vasi@92.83.228.29) Ping timeout: 260 seconds 19:05 maxocub++ 19:06 tstoeckler++ 19:06 GaborHojtsy++ 19:06 penyaskito++ 19:06 GaborHojtsy++ 19:06 D8MI++ 19:06 webflo++ 19:06 YesCT++ 19:07 GaborHojtsy++ 19:07 d8mi++ 19:07 kristen_pol++ 19:07 tstoeckler++ 19:07 YesCT: here's the potx testing issue: https://www.drupal.org/node/2608462 19:07 penyaskito++ 19:07 https://www.drupal.org/node/2608462 => Testing Potx Alpha1 w/ Drush. [#2608462] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention 19:07 maxocub++ 19:07 herom++ 19:07 webflo++ 19:07 Patrick_Storey++ 19:07 herom: thanks! 19:07 herom++ 19:08 Patrick_Storey++ 19:08 ⇐ Greg-Boggs quit (~greg_bogg@173.240.241.83) Remote host closed the connection 19:08 herom: super nice. might want to add something about, share results here and then we will split off child issues where needed 19:09 GaborHojtsy: and that should be nicely tweetable. :) 19:10 YesCT: done. thanks. 19:11 YesCT++ 19:12 kristen_pol++ 19:12 maxocub++ 19:12 GaborHojtsy++ 19:12 tstoeckler++ 19:12 webflo++ 19:13 herom++ 19:13 jhodgdon++ 19:14 herokm++ 19:14 herom++ 19:14 YesCT++ 19:14 Patrick_Storey++ 19:14 D8MI++ 19:14 D*MI++