[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: HEY
[6:00pm] Druplicon: salut
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the meeting?
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: amateescu|afk, attrib, e0ipso, fago, herom, jcisio|aw, jsbalsera, ksenzee, penyaskito, plach, rteijeiro, Schnitzel, Sutharsan, vijaycs8_, webflo, YesCT?
[6:01pm] jsbalsera: \o
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: sorry if I left out someone
[6:01pm] rteijeiro: GaborHojtsy: yay!
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[6:02pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: hey
[6:02pm] Druplicon: vijaycs85: 4 hours 40 min ago <podarok> tell vijaycs85 thanks. Cant see any roadmap issue. Are there any plans for date module?
[6:02pm] penyaskito: hi all
[6:02pm] plach: yo
[6:02pm] penyaskito: plach++
[6:02pm] penyaskito:
[6:02pm] plach:
[6:03pm] e0ipso: GaborHojtsy: I can't attend the meeting, but next week I'll have time to work on issues. So feel free to shoot some issues if you can think of any
[6:03pm] YesCT: I'm here!
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: yay!
[6:03pm] • Druplicon throws confetti
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: welcome all!
[6:03pm] YesCT: (for about 40 mins)
[6:04pm] herom: hi
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, I have two "news"
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: 1. http://drupal8multilingual.com/issues/focus is updated post D7 upgrade of d.o so works well again
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: nothing in the RTBC column, hum
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: 2. https://drupal.org/node/2019055 landed earlier today (yay plach!)
[6:06pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2019055 => Change notice: Switch from field-level language fallback to entity-level language fallback [#2019055] => 204 comments, 18 IRC mentions
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: so you can not only translate node titles, but they will actually *display* well too
[6:06pm] YesCT: plach++
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: ITS HUGE!
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: oh, and 3.
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: we have sprints coming up, there is a D8MI sprint next Sunday in Hungary, but that may not be very effective (mostly people who are not active otherwise, so we'll pick low key and probably some novice issues)
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[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: you are welcome to join remote, I'll be online
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: the bigger one is Vienna in 2.5 weeks: http://2013.drupalcamp.at/sprints
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: if you may come, please sign up on the sheet
[6:08pm] YesCT: I think next sunday I'll be in Mexico. on proper vacation.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: sounds good
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: well deserved
[6:09pm] penyaskito: YesCT: disfrútalo
[6:10pm] YesCT: penyaskito: sì
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: apart of that, looking for agenda points
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[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: the only thing I'd love to talk about is the config translation module (again :D)
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: there is an alpha release target for nov 18th, so getting it in by then would be *fabulous*
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: any other issue people want to discuss?
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: shoot them in now
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[6:12pm] plach: multilingual node fields?
[6:12pm] penyaskito: my current focus if noone wants to change it or if anyone is quicker than me  is https://drupal.org/node/2107427, https://drupal.org/node/1879930 and https://drupal.org/node/2115025
[6:12pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2107427 => Language Drupal.orgs don't show up localized in language switcher anymore [#2107427] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:12pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1879930 => Translate language Drupal.orgs in BlockFormController::form() [#1879930] => 18 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[6:12pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2115025 => Content admin views title saved localized to the menu table [#2115025] => 6 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:12pm] penyaskito: (in that order)
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[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: I think those are fine
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: that would be http://drupal.org/node/2111887
[6:13pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/2111887 => Regression: Only title (of base fields) on nodes is marked as translatable [#2111887] => 4 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:14pm] plach: https://drupal.org/node/2111887
[6:14pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2111887 => Regression: Only title (of base fields) on nodes is marked as translatable [#2111887] => 4 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: I promised to take a stab at starting it but if anybody else wants to....
[6:14pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: yup, that
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: speak up now
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: I'll unpostpone that now
[6:15pm] herom: any news from ksenzee? https://drupal.org/node/2040089
[6:15pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2040089 => Support for Drupal 8 twig %trans% template translatables [#2040089] => 14 comments, 7 IRC mentions
[6:15pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: did the testbot stuff get resolved with config_translation?
[6:15pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: what can we do with https://drupal.org/node/2127941? RTBC it?
[6:15pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2127941 => Remove two (out of 3) bogus and duplicate date languages UIs [#2127941] => 18 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:15pm] YesCT: I'm a bit lost lately.
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah jthorson found the problem and fixed it on testbot
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: the one from earlier this week
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: so we have a green core patch
[6:15pm] YesCT: phew.
[6:16pm] • penyaskito misses the follow button
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: the phpunit testbot problem was further diagnosed by dawehner
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: https://drupal.org/comment/8150455#comment-8150455
[6:17pm] YesCT: penyaskito: me too, but it should be solved in a matter of hours.
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[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: unpostponed, added sprint tag, will look at tomorrow probably
[6:17pm] YesCT: hope hope hope
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[6:17pm] YesCT: oh, new zealand asked for a session on what module developers will need to know to make their stuff work with d8mi.
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: hah, that one  nicely passes now
[6:17pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: awesome!
[6:17pm] YesCT: does anyone have that yet?
[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: RTBC if it looks good
[6:18pm] YesCT: otherwise... I might have to figure it out, trying examples and such.
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[6:18pm] YesCT: my inclination is: provide schema
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: I'm (or more precisely will) work on simple code examples for the training in Vienna
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: that is half site building, half coding
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[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: in short, there are some t() related new things: https://drupal.org/comment/8150455#comment-8150455
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: that is for interface text
[6:20pm] cosmicdreams: GaborHojtsy: I'm listening in because I helped work on the initial patch for date in D8 stuff.
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[6:20pm] ksenzee: herom: I have some time today to work on that patch, for the first time in a few weeks
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: as for config, schema yeah and provide UI to pick langcode as makes sense (easy 4 lines)
[6:21pm] ksenzee: herom: will try to actually get a WIP patch uploaded today, like I said I would
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: as for content, follow the node / entity_test schema, avoid base fields as much as possible and just do regular fields
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: but base fields may get better in the meantime (hopefully :D9
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee++
[6:21pm] herom: ksenzee, that's good news
[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: yeah so I figured out that there is some logic in how its built, but most of it is pretty flawed unfortunately
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: herom: wanna work on routing title context and/or tabs/actions titles/contexts? https://drupal.org/node/2069923 and https://drupal.org/node/2123127
[6:23pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2069923 => Support for Drupal 8 routing.yml title [#2069923] => 14 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:23pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2123127 => Extract titles of local tasks, local actions and contextual links [#2123127] => 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:23pm] • penyaskito has to leave now, read you later
[6:23pm] cosmicdreams: GaborHojtsy: well the logic (at the time) was that we needed a solution.  This was before config entities.
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: herom: it is pretty much similar to how the routing titles are already done
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[6:23pm] penyaskito: keep rockin!
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: you too!
[6:23pm] penyaskito: YesCT: enjoy your holidays if we dont talk each other
[6:23pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: right, I hope our stuff is not taken personally
[6:23pm] herom: GaborHojtsy: I'll see what I can do.
[6:23pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: good luck with the trainings
[6:24pm] cosmicdreams: GaborHojtsy: naw naw.  Not taking it personally.  Really excited to seeing all that code removed.
[6:24pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: we are actually adding two UIs for date format translation (one indirectly from penyaskito's patch which integrates it with locale and one from the config translation module)
[6:24pm] cosmicdreams: DX FTW
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: I think the current core approach is pretty flawed where you need to set up multiple "highest level" date formats just to translate another one
[6:25pm] YesCT: penyaskito: thanks!
[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: so all those will show up for formatting options in display modes, etc.
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[6:25pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: thx!
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[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: its also very similar to the old node translation where you have multiple first level objects and relate them to each other, except its a bit more confusing because you can have multiple languages assigned to them
[6:26pm] cosmicdreams: translation and locale huge up the Date work for a month or two, really glad to see a common approach to other entities used.
[6:26pm] cosmicdreams: hung
[6:26pm] cosmicdreams: Are you describing the current approach or the one you're developing?
[6:26pm] YesCT: date is interesting.
[6:26pm] herom: GaborHojtsy: no one is going to review https://drupal.org/node/1842858 ? It's been there for a long time.
[6:26pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1842858 => Convert menu links to the new Entity Field API [#1842858] => 160 comments, 26 IRC mentions
[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: the current core one
[6:27pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: yeah so we have https://drupal.org/node/2127941 passing now, if you are happy with it  hint hint
[6:27pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2127941 => Remove two (out of 3) bogus and duplicate date languages UIs [#2127941] => 18 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[6:27pm] plach: I was wondering whther anyone of the config translation experts can have a look to https://drupal.org/node/2123867
[6:27pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2123867 => Simplify/cleanup language handling in EntityFormController [#2123867] => 11 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:27pm] YesCT: menu links... that sounds like it might be ok for me.
[6:27pm] cosmicdreams: GaborHojtsy: I did a quick scan through it, but will have to review it better tonight in order to understand it's impact.
[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: superb, thanks!
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[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: in short it removes *all* the custom one off code for config translation of date formats because locale module already handles that perfectly for *shipped* date formats
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[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: and config translation has auto generated UIs that are *better* than these custom coded ones
[6:29pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: and cover both shipped and custom created ones
[6:29pm] YesCT: herom: I commented on the issue.
[6:30pm] cosmicdreams: ha, that's all of the work I touched.
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: herom: I reviewed it
[6:30pm] YesCT: just now?
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: herom: no, but my concerns are not yet resolved
[6:30pm] cosmicdreams: Happy to see it go though for the sake of progress.
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: sorry :S
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: it is better at the end
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: D8MI had a fair share of stuff added then removed
[6:31pm] YesCT: berdir did in #113
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: eg. plach is busy removing batch updates of fields that we worked hard to fix a few months back
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: herom: YesCT: ups, sorry, mixed up with plach's link
[6:32pm] GaborHojtsy: heh
[6:33pm] YesCT: herom: GaborHojtsy: are we looking at the same one? https://drupal.org/node/1842858
[6:33pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1842858 => Convert menu links to the new Entity Field API [#1842858] => 160 comments, 27 IRC mentions
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: yeah, thanks for reviewing that one, it needs eyes
[6:33pm] YesCT: oh,  ok.
[6:33pm] cosmicdreams: GaborHojtsy:  I'll update the issue wityour description above, that really sums it up
[6:33pm] YesCT: k.
[6:33pm] YesCT: I'll mark it in my gmail.
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: herom++
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: heroic effort there
[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: herom++
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[6:34pm] herom: YesCT: many of the points at #113 are resolved. the rest he told me were just loud thinking; not to be addressed right away.
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: so the entity form language stuff, I think just needs someone with time to look at figure out if config entities are not affected, and if we have tests
[6:35pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: hey, are you around?
[6:35pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: https://drupal.org/node/1810350 is green
[6:35pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1810350 => Remove menu_* entity keys and replace them with entity links [#1810350] => 86 comments, 23 IRC mentions
[6:37pm] YesCT: herom: ok.
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[6:37pm] • YesCT is going in 3 minutes .. so is pre-emptively ++'ing
[6:37pm] YesCT: penyaskito++
[6:37pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy++
[6:38pm] YesCT: plach++
[6:38pm] YesCT: cosmicdreams++
[6:38pm] YesCT: herom++
[6:38pm] YesCT: ksenzee++
[6:38pm] YesCT: e0ipso++
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[6:38pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: https://drupal.org/comment/8150783#comment-8150783
[6:38pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[6:38pm] YesCT: rteijeiro++
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[6:38pm] jsbalsera: YesCT have fun on your holidays
[6:38pm] YesCT: jsbalsera++
[6:38pm] YesCT: vijaycs85++
[6:38pm] vijaycs85: YesCT++
[6:39pm] plach: YesCT: have fun!
[6:39pm] jsbalsera: GaborHojtsy pinging attrib by skype, probably he is out smoking
[6:39pm] YesCT: what a great group!
[6:39pm] herom: YesCT++
[6:39pm] jsbalsera: YesCT++
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[6:39pm] YesCT: I'll be back online in about an hour or so.. have to drive to another house.
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[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: RTBC-ed
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[6:42pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: awsome!
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[6:44pm] attrib: GaborHojtsy: whats up?
[6:44pm] attrib: was reading the conversation here
[6:44pm] attrib: currently filled up with client work
[6:45pm] jsbalsera: ...
[6:45pm] jsbalsera:
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[6:45pm] attrib: (and was also just smoking :P)
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams: I suggest you try with config translation to see how the overall UI works at the end
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: hah!
[6:46pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: if you may have a slot sometime, https://drupal.org/node/2123867 is an interesting cleanup to look at
[6:46pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2123867 => Simplify/cleanup language handling in EntityFormController [#2123867] => 11 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:47pm] GaborHojtsy: by plach
[6:48pm] attrib: can't promise, but I will try
[6:48pm] plach: attrib: thanks, it would be great if you could
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: any other important issues we want to look at?
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[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: what do you think about the display modes schema stuff that aspilicious asked about
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: how far that may be?
[6:51pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: not sure aspilicious question... but most of them already there for review
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: yeah he tried out config translation (vanilla) and found 403 with display modes
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: as you would guess from the display suite guy
[6:52pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: so hopefully he can review that if it feels up to date it may even get in I guess
[6:52pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: sounds good
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[6:56pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, what else do people have on their mind?
[6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: any prospects to review the config translation module maybe?
[6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: we need someone soon with the guts to RTBC it
[6:57pm] jsbalsera: hahaha
[6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: I totally think its RTBC (its better quality than some core modules and definitely rich with tests)
[6:57pm] jsbalsera: I almost say anything until you talked about RTBC
[6:57pm] GaborHojtsy: but I cannot do the RTBC obviously
[6:58pm] jsbalsera: give me the link, please. I think this week I will be able to expend some time
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: https://drupal.org/project/config_translation is our most up to date code, we always commit to the repo
[6:58pm] jsbalsera: ok
[6:58pm] attrib: GaborHojtsy: create a second RTBC account on d.o:P;)
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: we periodically reroll the core patch at https://drupal.org/node/1952394
[6:58pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1952394 => Add configuration translation user interface module in core [#1952394] => 160 comments, 52 IRC mentions
[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: heh, we need an account with some credibility
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: its a 200k patch
[6:59pm] jsbalsera: Oh
[6:59pm] jsbalsera: Ok, If I have doubts I'll have penyaskito and attrib near to ask them
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: so just check out the 8.x of the module, the core patch is not always 100% up to date to the minute
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera: PERFECT!
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, this is it for the meeting then, thanks all for coming!
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: plach++
[7:05pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: herom++
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: cosmicdreams++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: jsbalsera++
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib++
[7:07pm] attrib: GaborHojtsy++
[7:07pm] jsbalsera: GaborHojtsy++
[7:07pm] jsbalsera: attrib
[7:07pm] jsbalsera: attrib++
[7:07pm] jsbalsera: (perhaps I will make you crazy tomorrow :D)
[7:08pm] penyaskito: plach++
[7:08pm] penyaskito: all++
[7:09pm] plach: bye all!
[7:09pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: thanks for coming!
[7:10pm] jsbalsera: penyaskito++