[4:58pm] GaborHojtsy: D8MI meeting in 2 minutes (although I forgot to specifically announce this
[4:58pm] Druplicon: GaborHojtsy: 43 min 57 sec ago <dawehner> tell GaborHojtsy The VDC merge issue completly killed my time today, but it seems to be very similar of block plugins vs. block instances and custom blocks
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[4:58pm] weal: w00t I'm accidentally on time for a meeting!
[4:59pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: das-peter, fago, webflo, Sutharsan ^^^^
[4:59pm] weal: GaborHojtsy: hello Gábor!
[4:59pm] Bojhan: GaborHojtsy: i'll be lurking, ping me when needed
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[5:01pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: ok!
[5:01pm] GaborHojtsy: hi everyone!
[5:01pm] GaborHojtsy: Who is here for the D8MI meeting besides Bojhan and weal
[5:01pm] GaborHojtsy: ?
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[5:01pm] das-peter: GaborHojtsy: Hi
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[5:02pm] das-peter: GaborHojtsy: I'm here but working on search api atm.
[5:02pm] attiks: GaborHojtsy: there's a meeting?
[5:03pm] GaborHojtsy: das-peter: ok
[5:03pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: yup
[5:03pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: I did suck in not announcing it individually
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[5:04pm] attiks: GaborHojtsy: bummer, I'm leaving in a couple ofminutes
[5:04pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: well, np
[5:04pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: all meeting times until dec 1st: http://groups.drupal.org/node/257888
[5:04pm] dagmar1: GaborHojtsy: I'm new in the D8MI  but have some experience from CMI, I would like to know how can I help
[5:04pm] Druplicon: http://groups.drupal.org/node/257888 => Drupal 8 Multilingual Initiative meetings now happening each week => 0 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[5:04pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: this is the Oct 19th 3pm UTC one
[5:05pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: I should have announced this one individually as well, neglected to that
[5:05pm] attiks: GaborHojtsy: you don't happen to have a google calendar with all the times?
[5:05pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: it is in the D8 meetings calendar
[5:06pm] attiks: GaborHojtsy: link?
[5:06pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: http://drupal.org/community-initiatives/drupal-core sidebar top
[5:06pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: that calendar does have all the other initiative meetings though
[5:06pm] attiks: GaborHojtsy++
[5:07pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: essentially it is every other week Fri at 3pm UTC and the other weeks Wed 4pm UTC
[5:07pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: the Wed one was the classic one and the Fri ones are added on until Dec 1st
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[5:07pm] attiks: GaborHojtsy: thanks, I'll try to make some time for the next one
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[5:07pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: so next week Wed 4pm, the week after Fri 3pm, then Wed 4pm, and so on
[5:08pm] GaborHojtsy: attiks: thanks!
[5:08pm] GaborHojtsy: dagmar1: hi!
[5:08pm] GaborHojtsy: dagmar1: have you seen any of the CMI-D8MI issues?
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[5:09pm] GaborHojtsy: dagmar1: we have all our issues at http://hojtsy.hu/d8mi/focus that we want to solve in the coming 6 weeks
[5:09pm] dagmar1: GaborHojtsy: I saw the Meta data for YAML files but is too much for me at this moment
[5:09pm] GaborHojtsy: dagmar1: ok, well, this one is probably simpler and equally needs reviews: http://drupal.org/node/1763640
[5:10pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1763640 => Add contextual data into Configuration Factory for localization, administration, etc... => Drupal core, configuration system, major, needs work, 11 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[5:10pm] dagmar1: GaborHojtsy: ok!
[5:12pm] GaborHojtsy: dagmar1: let me know if you have any questions, but you can usually find reyero online here as well
[5:15pm] GaborHojtsy: anybody else here to discuss outstanding questions or want to help look at issues?
[5:15pm] GaborHojtsy: we have plenty of exciting stuff to look at
[5:16pm] GaborHojtsy: in fact we do have some simple things to do even to help get a patch to RTBC that reyero can only get back to in the weekend if we cannot find someone now
[5:16pm] weal: GaborHojtsy: I'm still really busy but I'm going back to freelance hours Nov 1 so I'll have more time to work on stuff before the freeze
[5:17pm] Bojhan: GaborHojtsy: So that issue, Dries requested a usability test.
[5:17pm] Bojhan: GaborHojtsy: Does that postpone the issue, or is the answer to that no?
[5:18pm] das-peter: GaborHojtsy: I tried my best to push the node property stuff. But it really needs some review, there are to much ugly hacks and todos in the patch.
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[5:21pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: I don't think it should postpone
[5:22pm] Bojhan: GaborHojtsy: me neither, but I am not going to make an effort to meet that requirement.
[5:22pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: right, we want to usability test a lot of the improvements, but that makes most sense as the pieces are getting together
[5:22pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: currently there are lots of distracting things and missing pieces
[5:22pm] Bojhan: GaborHojtsy: ye
[5:22pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: most of our stuff cannot be tested IMHO in an isolated way
[5:23pm] Bojhan: GaborHojtsy: Well even if we could, I am not testing it. I don't have the bandwith
[5:24pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: thanks for that info, I hope we'll figure out something for this after Dec 1st, we'll hopefully have power that we cannot spend on features, so we'll try usability testing, possibly bring the experience to camps for people to try, etc.
[5:24pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: I'd like to figure out gaps that are fixable before the release
[5:25pm] Bojhan: GaborHojtsy: We will see, as its going now - its likely all UX work has to be done post-freeze.
[5:25pm] GaborHojtsy: Bojhan: yeah, most
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[5:31pm] GaborHojtsy: Druplicon: tell vasi1186 any comments on plach's latest comment on http://drupal.org/node/1739928? did he just find a mistake?
[5:31pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1739928 => Generalize language configuration on content types to apply to terms and other entities => Drupal core, language system, normal, fixed, 153 comments, 69 IRC mentions
[5:31pm] Druplicon: GaborHojtsy: I'll pass that on when vasi1186 is around.
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[5:33pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: hi! are you working on the localisation update feature now?
[5:33pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: any UI help / discussion needed?
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[5:42pm] GaborHojtsy: anybody else around wanting to talk about multilingual issues?
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[5:43pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: sorry I was ark
[5:44pm] Sutharsan: *afk
[5:44pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: visiting my mother and helping her in the garden
[5:45pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: great stuff
[5:45pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: but yet, I am working. progress, but always less than I expect
[5:45pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: well, I think you are managing well, it looks very realistic to have everything in place by dec 1st proper
[5:45pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: need any help?
[5:47pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: I need some advise
[5:48pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: shoot any questions
[5:48pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: I working on integrating the Gettext import code with the translation download and import batch.
[5:49pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: ah
[5:49pm] Sutharsan:  GaborHojtsy: in this process I'm making changes to the code that Clemens and Attiks made.
[5:49pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: not all changes in this code are strictly needed
[5:50pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: do I include these changes in my download/import patch, or make a separate one?
[5:51pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: I'm thinking to do include the 'must have' changes in my patch
[5:51pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: and the rest in a follow-up patch
[5:51pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: yeah, whatever is required to make your import run should be there iMHO
[5:52pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: what kind of changes do we talk about?
[5:53pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: the current gettext import function does three things in one: prepare the data, import the data and save the data.
[5:53pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: this is a must-have change
[5:54pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: I can only re-use the import, and not the rest.
[5:54pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: think this is a straight forward change
[5:56pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: hm, interesting
[5:56pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: I think I can say more when I see the code
[5:56pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: looking forward to reviewing it
[5:57pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: in a few days I have some working download/import patch.
[5:58pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: but possibly it will take me a week.
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[6:00pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: I think I'm still on schedule for Dec. 1st, but the schedule is tight. Coding is like sculpting, a detailed job that requires my full focus.
[6:00pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: not that I did do a lot of sculpting
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: well, good comparison though
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: if you have a work in progress patch, we can still review and help
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: I think we can get attiks look at if even if not ClemensTolboom
[6:01pm] Sutharsan: GaborHojtsy: A already spoke with Clemens, but yea, he too need ed to have a look at the code.
[6:02pm] Sutharsan: I'll make a patch, this evening.
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: perfect, thanks!
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[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: ok, that seems to conclude our D8MI meeting
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: remember you can find me mostly online on European times
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: if you have any questions
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[6:09pm] dagmar1: thanks GaborHojtsy
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: also I'm looking for more sprinters both in-person and offline for the BADCamp (California and Zurich Switzerlan) sprints: http://groups.drupal.org/node/257863
[6:10pm] Druplicon: http://groups.drupal.org/node/257863 => Drupal 8 Multilingual Initiative sprint at and after BADCamp 2012! => 0 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: if people forgot to sign up, it would be great to know when you are available (even just remotely)
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: Sutharsan: ^
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[6:19pm] weal: le sigh, I so wish I could go to BAD camp!
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: weal: oh, well
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: weal: you can join remotely
[6:19pm] weal: I will try to attend remotely if I can!
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: weal: there is a whole team in Zurich joining remotely
[6:20pm] weal: I will be back to freelance so it will be good
[6:20pm] GaborHojtsy: weal: cool
[6:20pm] weal: cool!
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[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: well, thanks all again everybody for coming to the meeting, it is a pleasure to work with you all
[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: keep it up :)