[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: hi everyone!
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: looks like it is our meeting time
[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the D8MI meeting?
[6:01pm] weal: hey gabor!  i'm just lurking, mid-deploy at the moment
[6:01pm] weal: if anyone has suggestions for naming my translation tabs module that would be cool! (see above)
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: weal: does it apply to all entities?
[6:03pm] weal: GaborHojtsy: only nodes at the moment, as I was coding I realized I will want to expand the functinality and I have a plan for that but no time this week
[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: weal: well, if it wrks with entity_translation, then maybe entity_translation_tabs
[6:04pm] weal: GaborHojtsy: that is a great suggestion. After describing it a few times to people I think it makes the most sense
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[6:05pm] plach: me!
[6:05pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/project/me Provides shortcut paths to current user's pages, eg user/me, blog/me, user/me/edit, tracker/me etc.
[6:07pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: ^
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: hey
[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: anything specific you need or want to discuss?
[6:08pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: well planning the work before bascamp would be good
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[6:09pm] plach: I thought of finally help das-peter with the node stuff but it seems it's being postponed on the Entity Field API conversion
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: yeah das-peter is working on that right now
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: he said 40 min ago: "das-peter: GaborHojtsy: Just in case I don't have a connection: I'm working on the compatibility mode for a smother migration to EntitNG. As soon as this is done I'll continue with the node properties."
[6:10pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy, I'm here too, but you resolved my questions before, so nothing more to add by now
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: I do think helping him as he progresses is the most important task (after the Et UI
[6:13pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: got it, I'm helping also with the new EFQ, but we are mostly done there
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: great
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: I think we should not divide our power much
[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: so that is why I'm trying to focus us on the absolute needed pieces
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: if, somehow the et ui lands before badcamp, then will have to figure out what to work on next
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: we do have a phone call the day after tomorrow though with Bojhan and webchick to figure out any UX concerns there and I think fago thinks its looking good?
[6:16pm] webchick: Yeah, I didn't get a chance to respond to that email yet, but I do not quite know what we are talking about on the call?
[6:17pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: yeah, I think it could use a finel code review, but it has been reviewed many times as of now
[6:17pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: if the initial UX is deemd acceptable for a first commit we should be done
[6:18pm] plach: webchick: Bojhan wants to review a demo live so we can identify which UX issues are introduce by this patch and which one are pre-existing
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: webchick: and also which ones do we consider commit blockers and which ones are followups
[6:19pm] webchick: Ok cool
[6:20pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: I think here alread stated in the issue that he does not see any UX blocker
[6:20pm] plach: * he already stated
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[6:22pm] GaborHojtsy: plach: right, so then?
[6:23pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: I guess we need every one on the same page
[6:23pm] plach: GaborHojtsy: webchick: once the call is over we should have an agreement on the current status and followups
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[6:25pm] plach: webchick: did you have any chance to see the latest UX improvements based on your review?
[6:25pm] webchick: plach: i did not yet, no. I got sucked into CMI and Spark stuff.
[6:25pm] plach: webchick: not big stuff, but I wrote the help myself
[6:25pm] webchick: Oh, awesome!
[6:26pm] webchick: I will try and take a look today
[6:26pm] webchick: or is it better to just go through the call tomorrow?
[6:26pm] plach: and I'm definitely not the person who should write nglish help texts
[6:26pm] plach: webchick: naa, let's wait for the call, I eas just curious
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[6:27pm] webchick: oh ok that works
[6:27pm] webchick: plach: I am very fluent in english and am happy to help co-author some text for you.
[6:27pm] reyero: (hi)
[6:27pm] janoka: (hi)
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[6:28pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hi!
[6:30pm] plach: webchick: cool?
[6:30pm] plach: cool!
[6:30pm] webchick: cool
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[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: need any help?
[6:36pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: I will a bit later. Almost done with the big metadata patch
[6:36pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: woot
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: btw what is your preference about the locale wrapper patch?
[6:37pm] fago: plach, GaborHojtsy: yeah, I think it's good, just the docs could need some more love -> http://drupal.org/node/1188388#comment-6644040
[6:37pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1188388 => Entity translation UI in core => Drupal core, entity system, critical, needs review, 168 comments, 32 IRC mentions
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: sounds like it is a side project not required for anything else?
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: fago: thanks!
[6:37pm] GaborHojtsy: fago++
[6:37pm] fago: ha webchick
[6:38pm] fago: webchick, http://drupal.org/node/1778178 is blocking some stuff, so it would be great if could take a look at it
[6:38pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: locale wrapper? (I have so many of them in progres...)
[6:38pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1778178 => Convert comments to the new Entity Field API => Drupal core, entity system, normal, reviewed & tested by the community, 26 comments, 12 IRC mentions
[6:38pm] fago: once time permits
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[6:39pm] webchick: fago: yeah that's in my queue. unfortunately so is a lot of other work stuff atm.
[6:39pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: You mean this one? https://drupal.org/node/1813762
[6:39pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1813762 => Rework string translation / locale API fixing issues, adding consistency, TranslationInterface, DIC... => Drupal core, locale.module, normal, needs work, 6 comments, 5 IRC mentions
[6:40pm] webchick: That's also a 145K patch which means I need at least an hour with it probably.
[6:40pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: yup  I also wanted to give it a shorter more to the point title, but failed in that
[6:40pm] webchick: fago: what time do you sign off for the day?
[6:40pm] plach: fago: thanks!
[6:41pm] fago: webchick, yep. It's mostly adding ->value though. about 15 minutes ago..
[6:41pm] webchick: darn.
[6:41pm] webchick: Ok I'll do my best solo, and if I have questions I'll leave 'em for ya
[6:41pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: That one is in my list after the metadata and the 'config context' one
[6:41pm] fago: webchick, sounds superb, thanks
[6:42pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Though I don't know whether that would go in 'new features' or in 'fixing and clean up', what do you think?
[6:42pm] fago: plach, thank you - I'm looking forward to see it land
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: I think it goes into fixing and cleanup
[6:43pm] plach: fago: it seems we just need a final signoff from Bojhan and webchick, we'll have a call friday
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: especially if we can prove that performance is fine without installer specific strings (st() and friends)
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: even though we already tell people to use the .po file that way
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: so its not a new practice really compared to D7, but we need to look at performance IMHO
[6:44pm] fago: plach, great!
[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: for how sure we are the big .po file fits into memory with the file based controller (vs. db)
[6:45pm] plach: fago: we'll need to coordinate for the badcamp session, btw
[6:45pm] plach: fago: I guess you already have some slides
[6:45pm] fago: plach, yep. I have an existing entity presentation for d7 which we can steal some slides from
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[6:46pm] fago: plach, for d8 I'll have to do some...
[6:46pm] fago: plach, but let's discuss another time? I've to leave
[6:46pm] plach: fago: ok, I'll mail you, thanks!
[6:47pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: It works pretty well with the full file, with a minimum (around half sec) delay in my laptop, I haven't really benchmarked it
[6:48pm] fago: plach, great, thanks!
[6:48pm] fago: bye all!
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[6:48pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: yeah I think we need to
[6:48pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Also that patch could provide some interesting features, like running off remote translation files / services
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: yeah, I get that
[6:49pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: I think we need to benchmark the memory consumption and if not too much we can load the whole thing into user session
[6:49pm] weal: ok!  I put my deployment on hold so I could roll this module under Gábor's suggested name: entity translation tabs!  http://drupal.org/project/entity_translation_tabs
[6:49pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hum
[6:49pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Well, maybe... I'm thinking... we don't have any session at that point
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: yeah I think we can re-read it, its just a couple screens
[6:50pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: But also to translate the installer page, which is maybe a dozen strings, we can do string by string file search maybe...?
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: need benchmarks
[6:51pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: yes, right, otherwise everything is 'maybe'
[6:54pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero:
[6:56pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: btw, with this metadata thing I'm adding some batches (to translate config objects..)
[6:57pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Now the thing that looks a bit worse is the js refresh,
[6:57pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Wondering whether we could generate it in a batch too
[6:57pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Since we have all the js strings properly tagged now with location/version...
[6:58pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: Anyway, once you see this patch, maybe we want the same for js
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hm
[6:59pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: not sure, there are only a few JS strings, no?
[7:04pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy: I don't know, well, maybe better we leave it for now
[7:04pm] GaborHojtsy: :)