[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: heyhey
[6:00pm] GaborHojtsy: who is here for the D8MI meeting?
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[6:01pm] GaborHojtsy: attrib: e0ipso fago jcisio penyaskito ricardoamaro vijaycs85 webflo YesCT ^^^
[6:01pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: hey
[6:01pm] ricardoamaro: hello folks
[6:01pm] davehewy: hi there
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[6:01pm] ricardoamaro: i'm working at the same time, but i'm present
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[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: hi!
[6:02pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy:
[6:03pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: hi all
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[6:03pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: hola!
[6:04pm] ksenzee: I'm "here" too
[6:04pm] GaborHojtsy: ksenzee: woot
[6:05pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy: I'm only 25% here.
[6:05pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT: ok, only read every 4th letter then
[6:05pm] davehewy: GaborHojtsy: first time here. but am going to be using the multi-lingual aspects of D7 & D8 heavily at work over the next year, thought i'd get involved.
[6:06pm] YesCT: davehewy: that is great.
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: yay!
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[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: so first of all, many of us will meet starting next weekend at https://groups.drupal.org/node/310893
[6:06pm] Druplicon: https://groups.drupal.org/node/310893 => Join the extended Drupal 8 sprints in Prague from Sept 21st to 29th! => 0 comments, 4 IRC mentions
[6:06pm] YesCT: davehewy: we have plenty of things to ease people into
[6:06pm] YesCT: wow next week.
[6:06pm] ricardoamaro: \o/
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: yeah 10 days
[6:06pm] davehewy: Trying to persuade work to send me to the con.
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: *really* looking forward to meeting you all again
[6:06pm] davehewy: Wheels are in motion.
[6:06pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: do it!
[6:07pm] penyaskito: \o/
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[6:07pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: the pre/post sprints are especially great to get to know Drupal 8 stuff and get hands-on help from people
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: I think we have some pressing issues that I kept posting the past few weeks on the announcement
[6:08pm] davehewy: GaborHojtsy: Definitely very appealing. I'm weighing up D7 vs D8 for a massive multi lingual site in Q1 of next year.
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[6:08pm] davehewy: GaborHojtsy: It's a real tight call.
[6:08pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: yeah
[6:08pm] davehewy: GaborHojtsy: Given the time frames anyway.
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[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: so top stuff for us right now
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: (1) the route conversions are about to get a "new process", AKA whatever patches not committed will need to be split into multiple steps => more pain
[6:09pm] GaborHojtsy: so if we have route conversions that are close to done, it would be great to nudge them into commit
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: IMHO the "new process" may lead to getting some routes *technically* converted sooner, but it will need steps aside from current issues, which may be counter-intuitive, see https://groups.drupal.org/node/315498
[6:10pm] Druplicon: https://groups.drupal.org/node/315498 => A faster process for Drupal 8 routing conversions => 0 comments, 3 IRC mentions
[6:10pm] GaborHojtsy: so the sooner we can get the ones moving in that are close, the better
[6:11pm] penyaskito: GaborHojtsy: do we have a tag or something for the D8MI related?
[6:11pm] GaborHojtsy: there are some small/easy ones for new people to get involved, e.g. https://drupal.org/node/2086499 and https://drupal.org/node/2086479
[6:11pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2086499 => Convert two page callbacks in language_elements_test.module to the new controller system [#2086499] => Drupal core, forms system, normal, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
[6:11pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2086479 => Convert content_translation_delete_confirm() to the new form interface [#2086479] => Drupal core, content_translation.module, major, active, 0 comments, 1 IRC mention
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[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito: theoretically D8MI + WSCII-conversion
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: practically all of them are listed on https://drupal.org/node/1971384
[6:12pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1971384 => [META] Convert page callbacks to controllers [#1971384] => Drupal core, menu system, critical, active, 43 comments, 48 IRC mentions
[6:12pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: one of the two conversions above may be interesting for you as a starter to get to know the D8 routing system
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[6:13pm] davehewy: GaborHojtsy: Sure. Just taking a look.
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[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: conversion guide at http://drupal.org/node/1953342
[6:13pm] Druplicon: http://drupal.org/node/1953342 => WSCCI Conversion Guide => 0 comments, 15 IRC mentions
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[6:13pm] GaborHojtsy: so these are somewhat time pressing
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: (2) we are pushing ahead some config_translation issues, this module still has a chance to land in D8 core
[6:14pm] GaborHojtsy: latest about that at https://drupal.org/node/1952394#comment-7846027
[6:14pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1952394 => Add configuration translation user interface module in core [#1952394] => Drupal core, other, major, needs work, 107 comments, 30 IRC mentions
[6:14pm] davehewy: GaborHojtsy: This would technically be my first contribution to Drupal. Would you mind emailing me after this session to point me in the right direction with getting started?
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: sure
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: as for config translation, we have two core issues to highly improve the DX of integrating with config translation
[6:15pm] GaborHojtsy: listed there
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: so support on getting https://drupal.org/node/2083615 and https://drupal.org/node/2085907 into core ASAP would be great
[6:16pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2083615 => Use links annotation for config entity URI like for content entities [#2083615] => Drupal core, configuration entity system, normal, needs review, 24 comments, 9 IRC mentions
[6:16pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/2085907 => Ensure all configuration entities have an Edit/Configure tab by default [#2085907] => Drupal core, other, normal, needs review, 4 comments, 2 IRC mentions
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: this should help with the DX concerns that effulgentsia shared with me
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: I think vijaycs85 has been doing a great job keeping the module up to snuff with latest core changes
[6:16pm] GaborHojtsy: so we are good on other fronts IMHO
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[6:17pm] GaborHojtsy: (3) upgrade path related issues for the beta also
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[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85 has been working hard on https://drupal.org/node/1952062
[6:18pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1952062 => Remove legacy translation module in favor of content translation [#1952062] => Drupal core, translation.module, critical, needs work, 35 comments, 8 IRC mentions
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: it may be best if you can post your latest patch and others can help there
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: eg penyaskito
[6:18pm] GaborHojtsy: or attrib?
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[6:19pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: sure will do ..
[6:19pm] GaborHojtsy: I *think* this is our only significant upgrade path issue
[6:19pm] vijaycs85: GaborHojtsy: overall two test cases failing because of the translation module removal... I will try to post my findings by today
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[6:21pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85: perfect, thanks
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[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: and (4) we have entity issues that fago, yched, plach, etc. are working on
[6:26pm] GaborHojtsy: those dominate the focus board, so any help is welcome
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[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: see http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/issues/focus
[6:30pm] davehewy: GaborHojtsy: Gotta shoot. Drop me an email though. Bye folks.
[6:30pm] GaborHojtsy: davehewy: bye!
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[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: that is for trying to direct your attention to things
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: any specific things we should discuss?
[6:31pm] GaborHojtsy: anything I can help with review /  feedback, etc?
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[6:33pm] GaborHojtsy: I'd be happy to help things move forward as possible
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[6:37pm] reyero: hi
[6:39pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, Looks like I've missed the meeting, haven't I?
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[6:41pm] YesCT: reyero: hi. me too... kind of.
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hi!
[6:42pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: yeah, I can post the back scroll somewhere
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: but not sure it was that relevant for you up to now
[6:43pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: what are you up to?
[6:43pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, just keeping an eye on posted patches atm
[6:43pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, pretty busy with other stuff
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[6:44pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: hm, did you happen to talk to alexpott about the cmi stuff?
[6:45pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: I think he is now focused on actually solving CMI issues so he may be even more interested (alexpott)
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[6:47pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, I was just replying on https://drupal.org/node/1998088
[6:47pm] Druplicon: https://drupal.org/node/1998088 => Convert locale_translate_english variable to CMI [#1998088] => Drupal core, locale.module, normal, needs work, 26 comments, 4 IRC mentions
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[6:48pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: cool
[6:48pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: I see its being moved to a direction compatible with your patch
[6:48pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: which sounds good
[6:50pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: not sure how to represent this kind of list with the schema?
[6:51pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, yes, I think it should be mapping
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[6:58pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: but then we cannot define the further elements?
[7:00pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, uh, right
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[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: I don't think our schema types have a solution for this
[7:01pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: we don't really need this well typed for locale, but its not nice that we cannot describe it with the schema
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[7:02pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, so it's a mapping but the schema is kind of dinamic, depending on which languages are defined
[7:02pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, which, you're right, it's not very good anyway
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[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: we could describe a data structure if it would be a sequence of languages which are enabled only
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: eg. - en
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: etc
[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: or if we really need the full language list, then substructure it
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[7:05pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: its hacking around due to the limitations of our schema typing though
[7:06pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero: although only listing enabled may be smaller a data set and nicer at the end(?)
[7:06pm] reyero: GaborHojtsy, right, I'll think about it, cannot right now - kids around
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: ok
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: reyero++
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: thanks everyone for attending
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: YesCT++
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: vijaycs85++
[7:07pm] YesCT:
[7:07pm] YesCT: GaborHojtsy++
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[7:07pm] YesCT: reyero++
[7:07pm] GaborHojtsy: penyaskito++
[7:08pm] reyero: bye cu
[7:08pm] GaborHojtsy: meet most of you next week!
[7:08pm] GaborHojtsy: can't wait!