[3:59 PM] Hello everyone :D [3:59 PM] jacine: 1 day 2 hours ago tell jacine Hey, could you take a look at http://drupal.org/node/1467914, we are trying to do major improvements to the module page. But we are running into the issue that it needs to be a table. However this breaks our design, because you cant have the same visual elements (e.g border around each row). Do you have any ideas? [4:00 PM] jacine: 4 hours 35 min ago tell jacine What do you think of this? http://drupal.org/node/1360994#comment-5694314 [4:00 PM] Transition: sure, no problem :) [4:00 PM] Transition is now known as Transition|AFK [4:00 PM] heya jacine [4:01 PM] hey cosmicdreams! Thanks so much for all the work you've been doing to help move patches along. [4:01 PM] hey jacine [4:01 PM] jacine: np [4:01 PM] jhood: hello!!! :) [4:01 PM] We've had a really, really good sprint. [4:01 PM] jacine: my pleasure. We have 7 fixed issues in the sprint queue [4:01 PM] cosmicdreams++ [4:01 PM] Yes, and wasn't all in the last 2 weeks, but it's great to see. [4:02 PM] NiklasFiekas++ [4:02 PM] NiklasFiekas: Didn't realize you were here, but definitely wanted to say thank you to you as well. You've been rocking the Form API issues, which we sorely needed. [4:02 PM] and aspilicious of course :) [4:03 PM] :) [4:03 PM] We were sorta held up for a long time because of issue queue thresholds. [4:03 PM] jacine: how many criticals are aloud? [4:03 PM] Which really sucks to say the least, given that I don't believe any of the work we are doing falls under the "feature" category. [4:03 PM] thresholds? [4:03 PM] Max. 15 critical bugs + 15 critical tasks, as well as 100 majors (each). Above that threshold, new features and API changes will not be accepted. Read http://drupal.org/node/1201874 for more information. [4:03 PM] *allowed [4:04 PM] NiklasFiekas: ^^ That's basically it. [4:04 PM] we're two critical tasks over it :/ [4:04 PM] Apparently we were under thresholds for a few days last week, but we're over again. [4:04 PM] Yeah. [4:05 PM] aspilicious: so much for our plans to get url committed now ;) [4:05 PM] So… jhodgdon has been tasked with committing some of our patches, under the premise that they are "coding standards" and "cleanup" patches. [4:05 PM] I don [4:05 PM] that one is a feature addition [4:05 PM] I don't know if I necessarily agree with that, but whatever helps getting things in, I'll take it. [4:06 PM] jacine: yeaj, I'm casting the net a bit wide so you can get some help. :) [4:06 PM] webchick: thank you :) [4:06 PM] cosmicdreams runs tests locally for the comment module css cleanup [4:06 PM] jacine: the more serious ones like Form API, etc. still need to go through catch/Dries tho [4:06 PM] Obviously there has been a huge increase in activity as a result. [4:07 PM] trutfully, I think jennifer is the only one of the 4 of us who actually understands markup. :D [4:07 PM] LOL [4:07 PM] jacine: what would you like us to focus on for the next sprint? [4:07 PM] So… here's where we are currently at, ordered by status: http://drupal.org/project/issues/search/drupal?order=sid&sort=desc&status%5B0%5D=Open&version%5B0%5D=8.x&issue_tags_op=and&issue_tags=html5%2C+sprint&text=&assigned=&submitted=&participant= [4:08 PM] There's still some stuff in there, but we need to add some more. [4:08 PM] yay greeeeen [4:09 PM] jacine wishes she could search for tagged HTML5 and NOT sprint. [4:09 PM] webchick had a patch for that at one point [4:09 PM] of course you did ;) haha! [4:10 PM] Ok I'm here :) [4:10 PM] Here's one: http://drupal.org/node/1174628 [4:10 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1174628 => Add new HTML5 FAPI element: search => Drupal core, forms system, normal, needs work, 22 comments, 1 IRC mention [4:10 PM] hey aspilicious :) [4:11 PM] jacine, can you remove the green issues from the lsprint? [4:11 PM] Apparently that one is waiting for CSS updates, so anyone can help [4:11 PM] the dark green ones ;) [4:11 PM] jacine can you please put the following issues on the next sprint: http://drupal.org/node/1217054 http://drupal.org/node/1216976 http://drupal.org/node/1217038 [4:11 PM] anyone can do that :) [4:11 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1217054 => Clean up the CSS for User module => Drupal core, user.module, normal, needs work, 25 comments, 1 IRC mention [4:11 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1216976 => Clean up the CSS for Comment module => Drupal core, CSS, normal, reviewed & tested by the community, 97 comments, 17 IRC mentions [4:11 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1217038 => Clean up the CSS for the Shortcut module => Drupal core, shortcut.module, normal, needs work, 18 comments, 2 IRC mentions [4:11 PM] jacine, search and css is a nightmare [4:11 PM] Oooh. [4:11 PM] http://drupal.org/node/582402 [4:11 PM] http://drupal.org/node/582402 => Allow to filter by issues NOT having a certain issue tag => Drupal.org webmasters, Site organization, normal, closed (fixed), 3 comments, 4 IRC mentions [4:11 PM] says it was fixed. [4:11 PM] webchick++ [4:11 PM] webchick tries [4:11 PM] wait what??? [4:12 PM] well, yeah NOT, but not NOT = sprint + IS =html5, right? [4:12 PM] Oh, ignore me. :( that was for 'not' to begin with [4:12 PM] oh ok :) [4:12 PM] webchick stfus until she has smething useful to say :D [4:12 PM] oh yes ... i have no idea while the html5 search element must be so different from other input elements and doesn't accept the most basic css [4:12 PM] NiklasFiekas cries [4:13 PM] NiklasFiekas: I haven't fully read through it lately, but if you cry I cry. :) Maybe you should update the issue with your concerns? [4:13 PM] NiklasFiekas: a new input file field? [4:14 PM] Schnitzel: yeah ... but here i can't find a reason (like security) why styling should be disallowed [4:14 PM] jacine: i linked http://css-tricks.com/webkit-html5-search-inputs/ in the issue. it shows that we can't do a great deal of the styling we usually do in our core themes [4:14 PM] jacine: should we focus more on the remaining html 5 field issues rather than the CSS cleanups [4:15 PM] NiklasFiekas: What is the problem in the issue. I'd rather no CSS be provided by core for these TBH. [4:15 PM] cosmicdreams: you just pasted in 3 CSS issues...? [4:15 PM] jacine: well ... the screenshot looks stupid: http://drupal.org/node/1174628#comment-5623954 [4:15 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1174628 => Add new HTML5 FAPI element: search => Drupal core, forms system, normal, needs work, 22 comments, 2 IRC mentions [4:15 PM] yes [4:16 PM] NiklasFiekas: Oh, so it's just bartik that needs to be fixed…? [4:16 PM] NiklasFiekas: That's easy. [4:16 PM] jacine, every browser has his own set of markup [4:16 PM] jacine, for the search element [4:16 PM] and webkit adds a cross and other crap [4:16 PM] jacine: yes, it's bartik and seven and the other one. if that's really easy that's awesome [4:16 PM] aspilicious: so? [4:17 PM] jacine, it's rly rly hard to get rid of it [4:17 PM] aspilicious: we don't have to make it look the same in all browsers. [4:17 PM] I don't think we should for form elements… TBH. [4:17 PM] jacine, hmm true... so... just adjust the height? [4:17 PM] That input clearly has no styling because of the CSS Bartik used in the first place [4:18 PM] probably targets .form-text or whatever. [4:18 PM] jacine: yep. but you can't even use padding, line-height, font-family and stuff that we usually do [4:18 PM] Crell proposes we just not support web browsers. That would make it very easy. [4:18 PM] Are you sure? [4:18 PM] I don't think that is the case. [4:18 PM] jacine: pretty sure [4:18 PM] NiklasFiekas: Alright, I will assign it to myself and see what I can do this sprint. [4:19 PM] davereid finally gets active in the meeting [4:19 PM] jacine: see "styling limitations" on http://css-tricks.com/webkit-html5-search-inputs/ [4:19 PM] jacine++ [4:19 PM] hey davereid :) [4:19 PM] Alright, done. [4:20 PM] Alright, I tagged this one: http://drupal.org/node/1216976#comment-5697388 [4:20 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1216976 => Clean up the CSS for Comment module => Drupal core, CSS, normal, reviewed & tested by the community, 97 comments, 18 IRC mentions [4:21 PM] jacine: testing that one as we speak [4:21 PM] cosmicdreams: nothing to test, it's just waiting for the bot. [4:21 PM] All green with 50% tests one [4:21 PM] jacine: no i'm actually doing the until tests locally, we'll see who wins this race. [4:21 PM] cosmicdreams: haha. ok :) [4:22 PM] cosmicdreams: you're running the whole testsuite locally? [4:22 PM] NiklasFiekas: NO no no [4:22 PM] davereid double-confirms the url input element is ready to go [4:22 PM] NiklasFiekas: just the tests for comments [4:22 PM] davereid++ [4:22 PM] cosmicdreams: oh ... :) you shocked me there [4:22 PM] NiklasFiekas++ [4:22 PM] ericduran++ [4:22 PM] davereid, the number patch is also rdy [4:22 PM] Tagged this one as well: http://drupal.org/node/1217038#comment-5697398 [4:22 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1217038 => Clean up the CSS for the Shortcut module => Drupal core, shortcut.module, normal, needs work, 18 comments, 3 IRC mentions [4:22 PM] whoops not [4:22 PM] ls Oh is the meeting [4:23 PM] Question. Do we have a meta issue somewhere to start using these newfangeldy fields in core? [4:23 PM] lol we shoudl get reminders [4:23 PM] aspilicious: ugg ... number tests just came back red [4:23 PM] NiklasFiekas looks [4:23 PM] NiklasFiekas, wtf happened with your patches [4:23 PM] webchick: yea, the original issue [4:23 PM] it's a bot issue [4:23 PM] or patch issue [4:23 PM] aspilicious: oh ... yeah [4:23 PM] webchick: the original issue was changes to meta-hmtl5-forms-blah [4:23 PM] webchick, ericduran: A table for those should also be added here: http://drupal.org/node/1183606 [4:23 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1183606 => Implement Form API support for new HTML5 elements => 0 comments, 14 IRC mentions [4:23 PM] aspilicious: no ... logs say it didn't manage to clone drupal core [4:23 PM] Anyone want to take that on? [4:24 PM] jacine: yeah, THAT would be super helpful. [4:24 PM] jacine: so are the localStorage issues moot now. Now that there's no really performant way to implement localStorage? [4:24 PM] jacine: you mean like field formatters? [4:24 PM] jacine, well I can make a table I guess [4:24 PM] err widgets? [4:24 PM] aspilicious++ [4:24 PM] aspilicious++ [4:24 PM] HTML5 fields? [4:25 PM] webchick: I'm not sure what you mean. We've been converting core to use them in each issue? [4:25 PM] NiklasFiekas: that's a bot issue [4:25 PM] cosmicdreams: I think that issue needs a summary. [4:25 PM] davereid: OH! I should actually read patches and not titles. AWESOME then! [4:25 PM] davereid: I assumed webchick means Field API [4:26 PM] ericduran: yep. the bot also tried three times. poor bot :( ... requested retesting [4:26 PM] Yeah, we should probably add new text field formatters for e-mail, URL, etc. [4:26 PM] WIDGETS [4:26 PM] yeah, field API, other things like the authored by date, "number of pots to show on front page" etc. [4:26 PM] not formatters [4:26 PM] webchick: davereid jacine : We do need field api widgets [4:26 PM] yea [4:26 PM] ericduran: I have no idea. [4:26 PM] Grrr, we really needed a 'plain text' field type in core... [4:27 PM] Anyway, definitely not critical. It's not like putting something into core and not using it didn't hapen in D7 *cough* jQuery UI ;) [4:27 PM] davereid: hell yes. [4:27 PM] But might be a good source of some novice tasks [4:27 PM] webchick: ugh, tell me about it. I hate that. [4:27 PM] yet it loads everywhere. [4:27 PM] davereid: like http://drupal.org/project/link and http://drupal.org/project/email into core but with our new html5 form element types? [4:27 PM] hm. really? that's odd. it definitely shoudln't be iunless something asks for it. [4:28 PM] NiklasFiekas: not as complex ;-) [4:28 PM] NiklasFiekas: I'm thinking more like new widgets for the 'text' field type [4:28 PM] NiklasFiekas: just the widgets for simple textfield, not of the other crazy things they do [4:28 PM] webchick: I'm pretty sure it does. I ended up removing it in a base theme. I should double check that I guess. [4:28 PM] ericduran: makes sense [4:28 PM] jacine: can you put this onto the next sprint? http://drupal.org/node/1372374 [4:28 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1372374 => Adapt states.js to new required html5 attribute => Drupal core, javascript, normal, needs work, 3 comments, 1 IRC mention [4:29 PM] cosmicdreams: I've actually asked for help on that one from effulgentsia. So, yes, that is a good one. [4:29 PM] jacine: cosmicdreams I think we should skip that one [4:30 PM] ericduran: I don't know if that is the proper fix, but we need to get #required back in, so we need to figure it out. Why do you think we should skip it? [4:30 PM] jacine: 1st we should get the required attribute fix, so we know how we're using it [4:30 PM] jacine: yea, once we have that fixed than we can tackle this issue [4:30 PM] ericduran: But isn't that the only "solution" that has been proposed? [4:31 PM] I'm thinking we should either rule it out or accept it. [4:31 PM] jacine: we need to fix http://drupal.org/node/1174938 before doing http://drupal.org/node/1372374 [4:31 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1174938 => Natively support the HTML5 #required FAPI property => Drupal core, forms system, normal, needs review, 77 comments, 10 IRC mentions [4:31 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1372374 => Adapt states.js to new required html5 attribute => Drupal core, javascript, normal, needs work, 3 comments, 2 IRC mentions [4:31 PM] jacine: jacine so the #required should be tag for the sprint [4:31 PM] sorry, I'm doing like 20 things at once [4:31 PM] ericduran: So you are saying that the states issue is not a solution for that? [4:32 PM] jacine thought it was. [4:33 PM] I tagged it: http://drupal.org/node/1174938#comment-5697442 [4:33 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1174938 => Natively support the HTML5 #required FAPI property => Drupal core, forms system, normal, needs review, 77 comments, 11 IRC mentions [4:33 PM] I still don't get it though. [4:33 PM] jacine: I dodn't remember but I don't think so, I'm pretty sure David_Rothstein had the right approach to fixing it [4:33 PM] in #65 [4:34 PM] Transition|AFK is now known as Transition [4:34 PM] I'm back! What'd I miss? [4:34 PM] ericduran: Ok, well I've asked effulgentsia to look into it anyway, and tagged it so hopefully we'll see some progress. [4:34 PM] jacine, what kinda stuff do you want in your table [4:34 PM] url, email, number, range, ?? [4:34 PM] Also, I need to figure out what's going on with my Calendar syncing on my iPhone! It's been acting funny! [4:34 PM] tel [4:34 PM] jacine: Yea, I'm also not sure why there's two issues [4:35 PM] Transition goes to read the chat log thus far... [4:35 PM] we'll figure it out. [4:35 PM] jacine: which one? [4:36 PM] effulgentsia: oh hey! This one: http://drupal.org/node/1174938 [4:36 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1174938 => Natively support the HTML5 #required FAPI property => Drupal core, forms system, normal, needs review, 77 comments, 12 IRC mentions [4:36 PM] davereid is reading that issue too [4:36 PM] trying to remember that php tag. [4:37 PM] jacine: i need to be away for the next couple hours, but i'll check-in when i'm back to see where ericduran or davereid have gotten with it. [4:37 PM] jacine: not to change the subject but this one sounds like another good one to add to the sprint: http://drupal.org/node/1174892 [4:37 PM] http://drupal.org/node/1174892 => Rich media display with