What was said: 2012 Drupal Association elections all candidates meetings

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In this wiki page we're aiming to capture some of the great discussion that happened at the two all candidates' meetings held with candidates for the 2012 Drupal Association at large director elections.

There are two sections to this page. At the bottom of the page you'll find raw IRC logs from the meetings. Scribes typed in IRC while candidates fielded questions. The IRC logs are a bit hard to read, but give some sense of how the various candidates introduced themselves and fielded questions.

Above the IRC logs, we're starting to pull together a more readable version. Here we're inviting candidates to copy and edit up their responses.

Candidates: please go through the IRC logs and pull out your answers and copy them, along with your name, into the intros, summaries, and below each question. Feel free to edit up your responses, or to add responses if you weren't at the meeting or didn't answer that question at the time. Make sure to do your editing offline and then copy it into this page, to avoid losing your work. Thanks!

Each meeting had the following format:

  • Each candidate briefly introduces self and what she/he aims to bring to the DA board.
  • Candidates answer questions from meeting participants. Generally two or three candidates answered by voice and the rest could type responses into IRC.
  • At the end of the meeting each candidate gave a brief summary statement.

Rather than repeating the intros and summaries, in the edited form below we'll have a single intro and summary for each candidate. We'll also put all questions together, rather than separating them per meeting.

Candidate intros

Donna Benjamin (KatteKrab), Australia
I'm in Melbourne, Australia. Run my own small business, called creative contingencies. Been using Drupal for about 5 years.
I'm really passionate about open source and the fact it enables people to do things they would not otherwise be able to do.
In terms of Drupal and the Drupal association, I'd like to be a voice for the 'small voices'. Small drupal shops, amateurs, hobbyists, non-profits, students and tinkerers. Sometimes we get caught up in the commercial opportunities, and forget that Drupal has been an enabler for many people that aren't using it to make a living. I think it's important the Drupal Association develops a more global perspective, and that we work together to invite and embrace more people into the Drupal community.

I just helped run Drupal Downunder in Melbourne a couple of weeks back, it was a great success, and like many other camps around the world was driven by the local community to fulfil a need that can't be filled by DrupalCon, because DrupalCon happens on the other side of the world. The DA has already expressed an interest in seeing DrupalCon South America and DrupalCon Asia Pacific - which is fantastic.

The edited version of my responses to questions is here:
http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

Jingsheng Wang (skyredwang), China
[paste intro]

Kevinjohn Gallagher (kevinjohn)
Who Am I:
http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/01/drupal-association-nomination/

What I intend to bring:
http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-manifesto/

My answers to the questions below (and others):
http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

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Matthew Connerton (mrconnerton), United States
I am from Asheville, NC and have been a part of the Drupal community for ~4 years. I started the Asheville Drupal user group ~3 years ago and since then we have had two great camps. I am applying for this position as the at large director so I can be a community liaison for the DA. I travel to many camps and events every year and I get a lot of feedback and opinions from companies and individuals across the country. I would love to have the opportunity to share these ideas and opinions, as well as my own ideas, opinions, and concerns, with the DA to help support and make the Drupal stronger for everyone. To learn more about me, I encourage you to read my nomination profile.

Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal (nickvidal), Brazil

My name is Nick, from Brazil. I've been part of the Drupal community for 5 years, acting mostly in the Latin American community. I've helped organize events such as Drupal Summit Latino, which is like a mini DrupalCon. I'm trying to organize more events to bring lots of people together from different countries. The DrupalSummit Latino 2011 in Peru had over 16 countries represented: from Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, etc. I was also the main organizer of Drupalcamp Foz, where we received Dries for the first time in Brazil. It's really interesting all of this effort from the Drupal Latin Community getting together. I want to push this forward. Not just the Latin community, but other parts of the world: Asia, Australia, Africa. Something else that we've launched recently is the Libre Magazine. We wanted to bring new people who didn't know anything about Drupal. The 1st issue of the magazine was fully sponsored by companies. We had 5,000 copies and were able to distribute all over Latin America. We got a grant from the Drupal Association to print 3,000 additional copies. These magazines talked a lot about the Drupal community and how people can engage themselves. This is what I want to bring forth to the Drupal Association.

More about me and my objectives: https://association.drupal.org/node/14488

R.J. Townsend (rj), United States
[paste intro]

Ryan Cross (rcross), Australia
[paste intro]

Stephanie Victoria Hosny (stephvhosny), United Kingdom
Hi I'm stephanie i'm the business development manager at Ixis, a UK-based drupal development/hosting/support agency. I started working with Drupal in 2006 promote benefits of Drupal See benefits of community working together one clear agenda, one strong voice really want to harness community power with existing developers, new developers, clients, stakeholders to grow drupal and community particularly hoping to sell drupal to diverse groups, new audiences, women…I bring marketing/fundraising experience to board previous board experience. I'm not technical and I want to fill in those gaps between coders and clients. I'd like to encourage and grow the pool of drupal developers. I'm working with corporate companies interested in open source and finding a lot in the UK that government agencies are adopting open source systems. This is a great time to be involved in supporting Drupal and I want to work with learning institutions to develop the Drupal workforce

Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss), United Kingdom
Hi, I'm Steve Purkiss and I'm here representing the "normal guy".

I've been running the Drupal group in the UK's digital media hub of Brighton for the three years that I've lived here but it was only in 2010 when I went to my first DrupalCon in Copenhagen that I got Drupal - it's all about the community and not just software. Since then I've been helping people understand what Drupal is, including organising a 'Drupal Discovery Day' during Brighton's Digital Festival last year where we trained over 30 people in the morning and had over 40 attendees at our conference in the afternoon. I've now been to three DrupalCons, two Drupal CxO days, devdays, and did my first session at a DrupalCamp a couple of weeks back in Cambridge entitled 'From Flip Charts to Features and beyond' building on the work I've been doing with organisations including Brighton & Hove City Council in order to help them quickly and easily understand how to build projects in an agile way using Drupal and its plethora of modules. I also video many of the sessions and upload them to archive.org - I believe we should do much more videoing of events!

My first experience of the Drupal Association was in DrupalCon Copenhagen when I asked if they'd ever heard of a 'Virtual Enterprise Network' and explained it was a structure for enabling organisations including businesses, universities, and government instititions, to work together in order to deliver larger projects - similar to how the film industry works when coming together to produce a film. I asked if there was anyone in the Association who I could talk to about it because I believe strongly we have built a wonderful modular piece of software however we are yet to build a modular business model on top. The answer I received was a point-blank "No, they're all incredibly busy working for very large corporations." This is why I decided to nominated myself and hence why I feel I stand for the "normal guy" wanting to bring back some balance to the board.

Todd Tomlinson (toddtomlinson), United States
I’ve been involved in the Drupal Community for 6+ years and am the author of Pro Drupal 7 Development (Apress) and Beginning Drupal 7. I am the Vice President of ServerLogic’s Drupal consulting practice – focused on delivering Drupal solutions primarily to the public and non-profit sectors. I’ve been in the industry for 36 years and have sat on the boards of several non-profits and private companies. I see my role as a board member focused performing normal board member duties (strategy, governance, guiding and directing DA staff, finance, and legal), as well as being a vocal proponent/evangelist for the Drupal Association in the market. My past includes nearly 10 years with Andersen Consulting (Accenture) as a Senior Manager/Associate Partner, 4 years with Oracle Corporation as the Sr. Director of EBusiness Strategy, IBM, and other regional consulting organizations. I spent 10 years as a full time professor, teaching Drupal as the platform for web development. I live in Portland Oregon – home of the Drupal Assocation.

Questions and answers

Questions:

Harley (hyperglide)
Regarding emerging markets in asia. Do any of the candidates have an idea on how to handle outreach to those markets to solve the talent shortage?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A StephvHosny It's hard to engage people who are not necessarily already involved. The key is to reach out, especially to women.

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: Donna (Donna Benjamin) is right. We're also having this issue in Brazil and all of Latin America. I think it's important to have a DrupalCon. It promotes more DrupalCamps all around. It promotes a bottom-up effect. Australia has DrupalDownUnder. We have Drupal Summit Latino, which is also growing a lot. These regional events are interesting, but a DrupalCon could help promote even more Drupal events. This is my hope.

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss)

The Association is in an ideal position to help pool and funnel resources to those on the ground in order to help them grow their communities wherever they are in the world. Being a focal point for the community, the Association can help the community to speak from one voice and spread knowledge sharing, education and community values wherever it is needed, and not only to those who can afford it.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(tsvenson)
Q to each candidate: What do you see as the biggest obstacles for new Drupal users, especially non coders with small or no budgets, often leading to them quickly going elsewhere? And what will you do to change that?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A StephvHosny A: Not having access to support groups, so the size of the network that they rely on, but also in terms of them finding leverage they've got with the community, marketing materials, wealth of community without access to the community we are just like any other software so this is a strength we need to better promote.

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: I agree with RJ (R.J. Townsend) and Steph (Stephanie Victoria Hosny) that community support is very important. What I saw that the objectives for 2012 from the DA is to really support the Drupal community by helping organize events such as Drupal in a Day and also help organize the Documentation. For example, creating documentation for site builders, not just for programmers. Anyone can get into Drupal and see how it works, even if they don't know how to code. These are some of the key ideas that I'll push for at the Drupal Association.

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) In Brighton I was going to run a week of Drupal training at £149 per day but was told I couldn't call it "affordable" training as it made other offerings sound expensive. If we only focus on the commercial side of things we have a big problem - and vice versa. I would rather see a focus on creating more sustainable forms of business than focusing on just one sector. To not view Wordpress as a threat here is IMHO a mistake.

I entered professional programming through a government-funded course and I am keen to ensure those opportunities are ongoing for people so I am talking to local colleges, universities and business networks about training students, graduates, unemployed, and career changers in Drupal. I am finding it hard by myself and my local network, if in the Association I would reach out to those around the world who can help on a more focused, local basis and assist in the construction of more support networks IRL.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(webchick)
For those who want to promote international diversity, explain how a position on the DA helps you do that more effectively.

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) Finding out what resources are needed and how they need to be tailored for particular cultures. At the recent Drupal CxO days in Amsterdam the hosts Microsoft explained a little into the process of how they do this and have offered us some time to help us - I would ensure we follow up on this very generous offer. As was mentioned, we are great technicians but not so great marketers - so why not take some tips from the best and help spread the Drupal community wider?

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(Crell)
Currently Drupal's face in the world is a mix of face-less Drupal.org and Acquia. Acquia is the face of Drupal, rightly or wrongly, in many eyes, moreso with the new Office of the CTO. Drupal of course is far far more than Acquia. What if anything do you feel the DA can or should do to counter-balance that, or is that even an appropriate role for the DA?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: StephvHosny: DA role should be to harness and to promote the successes of Drupal and therefore allowing others to shine as well rather than instead of just focusing on specific shops/companies

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) The two At Large positions are a step in the right direction as we don't necessarily know who's out there in our community now as opposed to years ago when it was relatively small and why most members are from the more established companies. By bringing in outside perspectives with complementary knowledge and networks we enrich the community and move towards a more balanced, sustainable solution for democratised governance.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(tsvenson)
Q to all: We just had a live usability test that showed we have still very much to do. How do you propose we can put more efforts into making Drupal, including contib projects, more user friendly and intuitive?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) There are some things as a community we do not do well at the moment, one of those is eat our own dogfood. I hear of many other tools people use running their Drupal business but we should work together to invest time, and funds, in fostering existing efforts such as the open app initiative. We should also develop new methods of people being able to contribute easier to the community - one such concept I've had is http://dropfund.org (hey, I bought the domain name so it's all built and ready, right?!) where people could post their project ideas much like a kickstarter for Drupal. Everything from marketing material through to module development sponsorship could be posted and funded easier than trawling through drupal.org and gdo just stumbling across stuff and trying to figure out what's going on and how to help.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(Slurpee)
How many candidates have been to Drupal events outside of their own continent? And can you speak more than 1 language fluently?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: stephvhosny: I'm new to Drupal events - hoping to go to more this year. I speak some french and arabic and also client speak

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: Only outside of my country (from Brazil to Peru for Drupal Summit Latino). I speak a bit of Spanish and French (as well as English and Portuguese).

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) Since DrupalCon Copenhagen I have been to DrupalCon Chicago and London, Developer Days Brussels, CxO Days Brussels and last weekend's CxO event in Amsterdam, and the weekend before that I gave my first session at Drupal ScienceCamp Cambridge. I'm better with software languages than spoken, having spent from age 9 to now 39 learning how to talk in various software languages, from BASIC, through Pascal, ADA, Java, PHP, and now Drupal.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(Crell)
Several of you listed things yo want to do or accomplish. The DA, however, has shifted from a staff board to a policy board, so board members are not directly doing anything, but managing, strategizing, coordinating, etc. Those of you who want to "do", isn't the board the wrong place for what you're describing?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: StephvHosny: I really support the existing strategy rather than have a personal agenda it's more about objectives you estbalished in 2012/late 2011

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) I want to work towards a more level playing field for everyone in the community - at the moment it seems as if the more well-funded operations build their own tools, workflow, and methods of dealing with inefficiencies in tools we have such as drupal.org whereas I believe it's the role of the DA to encourage contribution of these tools back to the community, and pool as many of these resources as possible so they are of benefit to all and not just competitive advantage for a few. Managing, strategizing, and coordinating are the ways in which I will achieve this!

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(rfay)
In 30 seconds or less, what are the roles of the DA and what are not the roles?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: StephvHosny: the role is to be supportive/encouraging and crossing boundaries to promote what the community can do

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: The role of DA should be to act as catalyst, identifying emerging initiatives and trowing all its weight in to make it spread faster.

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) The DA plays an important role supporting the development and growth of the Drupal community and should take a more active role in enabling those who want to contribute to be able to do so. It is not the DA's role to be involved in the decision-making process when it comes to the software itself, however it should be there to support ongoing efforts by being able to connect funders and those wanting funding, whether for hardware or software development. In terms of funding development then I believe the community and not the DA should be the decision-makers as to what gets funded - the DA should just help with the organisation of these initiatives.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(Crell) Q: Several candidates said they want to better represent or be a voice for "small shops" and independents. In what way does the DA currently not adequately serve small shops, and what would a better service for small players mean in practice? Be as specific as possible.

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: StephvHosny: working with smaller orgs and 1 man/woman bands - any access to learning and support is always great for small shops. getting support and additional resources could be a way forward. better access to funding opportunities, learning and support to run their own events. "Shadowing" or mentoring opportunities are key too.

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: I believe the DA is doing a good job trying to connect with big co's and promote Drupal. However, it does leave out the small Drupal shops because of so much focus. They should share this focus with small shops. Not only promoting big companies but also small shops.

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) It is more that relationships are currently built and maintained around a relatively few number of shops - ones who are either ingrained in the community, or who have the funds to "buy" their way into the community. Mostly I believe this is due to the fact we are not utilising our own software to the best effect to help connect, also because we are still thinking in terms of old-IT top-down big consultancy approach in some ways - perhaps because the biggest businesses involved currently still work that way.

We have built wonderful modular software and we are currently seeming to try and mash that into an old, out-of-date business model. Many large IT failures will still happen if the business models don't change - it's just they'll fail with Open Source Software resulting in harming its reputation. There are other ways, one of which is Virtual Enterprise Networks ('VEN')* where one body represents its members in a commercial environment, enabling sharing of costs such as marketing, and enabling larger projects to be delivered than could be done by any one member organisation alone.

Many smaller shops and independents are technically very capable but not so good at marketing - will a skills shortage and the fact that specific expertise is not geographically specific we should embrace new ways of working together on larger projects than just giving them to to the larger companies. As I discovered at the recent Drupal CxO event in Amsterdam every Drupal company there had issues with being too small - whether they were 2, 20, or 50 people. With a VEN a structure would be there for easier collaboration between these companies and individuals.

I believe the DA is in an ideal position to help to work towards the creation of a Drupal VEN, and spearhead not only a modular piece of software but a complementary business model to boot. I see some worrying similarities between what is happening in the Drupal world and what happened in the dotcom days when the company I was working at received $7m investment and immediately went out and hired lots of ex-IBM people. We have a small window of opportunity here to do something different and innovative - we should take full advantage of before balance is lost and we end up repeating old business mistakes simply because we are only listening to those who have too much interest in a particular model, or who simple do not know any other way is possible. A VEN is just one potential structure which should be investigated further in order to see which would be most complementary to the Drupal community in order to utilise the network more efficiently.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(tsvenson)
When do you think the first Asian DrupalCon should be held? Also, should that mean 3 cons/year or should they alternate with 2/year?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) I would need to investigate the current situation and any research done so far before suggesting any answer to this. At the moment, I feel if the community is big enough to support it then sure, if not then we should see how we can build or connect the community more so that it is in a position to put on a Con.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(jredding)
In 30 seconds or less, what would you say is the most important skillset, expertise, or experience that a board member should bring to the Association.

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: StephvHosny: My previous experience in marketing/fundraising is key here as is my understanding of client requirements and community needs and how to bridge those two - understanding of clients requirements, devs needs and how to bridge those.

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: One of the most important things is to be able to hear the community. When you are at the top, you should be able to hear the problems and the good ideas. You should show leadership, being able of identifying these great emerging ideas from the bottom and bringing them up by promoting them and making them better.

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) Experience, passion, ideas, ears, mouth when needed, sympathy, empathy, commitment, independence, and a willingness to question and challenge the status quo.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(carsonblack)
What are some (or one) way that DA can help the small user groups throughout the world better serve their local markets?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: The Drupal Guilds Initiative is a very interesting idea and maybe the DA could work on that. The Ambassadors Initiative, which is outlined by the DA, is also a great idea that could help the local community.
Drupal "Ambassador" Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/node/198728
Drupal Guilds Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/guilds

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) At the recent Drupal CxO event in Amsterdam I spoke to a number of companies who want to join forces in order to help create more marketing materials for Drupal. We should help these companies to contribute as the result will be more material available for everyone to use, including local user groups. We should also make it easier to start and maintain local groups by providing more up-to-date resources of information gathered from existing groups, and continue to provide funding where possible. I won one of the first Community Cultivation Grants with which I created a short video "What is Drupal?" (http://bad-ass.org.uk/what-is-drupal) which helped a little but we need more ongoing support too so we can develop the great work people are doing out there "in the field". Guilds are great, however we should ensure these do not go the way of the guilds of old, which ended up being cartels. There was a similar issue in the Open Source Consortium of which I was a founding member but left soon after as I felt it would go this way. It was set up by Mark Taylor from Sirius IT who has spoken at Drupal CxO events, he confirmed to me it did end up being a cartel so he too left. Not saying Drupal Guilds will, we just have to be aware they potentially could.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(Crell)
The DA is officially banned from "directing the development of Drupal". What does that mean to you? Are there ways the DA could "support" development without "directing" development? What would you want to do in that regard? Again, be specific as possible.

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: stephvhosny: Support opportunities, tapping into funding streams, encouraging development and involvement

A: Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal: I agree with banning the "directing the development of Drupal". The best way the Drupal Association could help is by providing the infrastructure and tools to support the development and also the promotion of contributions. For example: the Git migration (from last year), and the Prairie Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/prairie-initiative

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) To me this means the DA should be supporting the development of Drupal whatever that development is. For example, if the community decided to rewrite the entire of Drupal using .NET technologies, although it would be a completely ridiculous concept, the DA should support the community's decision. The DA is ideally positioned to be a connector of resources to support the development of Drupal, by working with the community to ascertain what resources are needed the DA can help ensure access to those resources are provided, whether in terms of hardware, funding, or whatever is necessary for the community to continue to grow and flourish.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

(tsvenson)
Should the DA take a more proactive role about the d.o infrastructure and its improvement needs. Especially in regards to for example content management tools for doumentation and giving better cred/visibility to all those that puts in amazing work that is not project/code related? If so how and what is needed?

A. Kevinjohn Gallagher - please see http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-questions/

A: Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss) Yes, I believe it is the responsiblity of the DA to support the infrastructure used by the community. I think there is a lot that can be done here in terms of working more closely with companies using Drupal to help them contribute more back to the community in order to help sustain and grow. At the moment it seems as if there's a high barrier in terms of both expertise and time to be able to change much, with a little more communication and connection of existing efforts I believe we can provide much better tools for the community to use, which will in turn show off more of what Drupal can do to the wider world and hopefully make it a little easier to understand for all.

A: Donna Benjamin - see http://kattekrab.net/drupal-association-elections

Candidate summary statements

Donna Benjamin (KatteKrab), Australia
I'd like to finish off by saying Drupal is awesome. The community is what makes that true.

I am desperate to give back to this project and this commnuity in the best way I can
I'm not a coder, designer, documenter, but I am good at being committees, organising events. Following through.
I will put in all my energy and efforts to be a useful productive, engaged member of the board.

It's the first time the DA has run broad based elections like this. It is the beginning of a new chapter in terms of how org is structured. There's a a lot of work to do in the future around consolidating the work that's been done and becoming a more open/transparent organization. I'd love to be part of seeing that happen and working for the community by being on the board.

I'd like to add, my fellow nominees are all awesome. Even if not elected, the DA should find a way to co-opt them onto other committees. They've all indicated a willingness to serve - let's harness their commitment, competence and energy.

Jingsheng Wang (skyredwang), China
[paste intro]

Kevinjohn Gallagher (kevinjohn)
http://kevinjohngallagher.com/2012/02/drupal-association-manifesto/
* Drupal.org re-architecture
* Learn Drupal
* A new training theme
* Migration Learning
* Close comments
* Blueprint for Drupal meetings
* Drupal in the Boardroom
* Drupal Gap Analysis
* Drupal outside of North America & Europe
* Drupal Association, not Acquia
* Drupal Tone of Voice

Matthew Connerton (mrconnerton), United States
[paste intro]

Niccholas Rodriguez Vidal (nickvidal), Brazil

The Drupal Association has gone through a lot of changes, especially this last year. We can see that they are willing to hear more about the community and open up themselves and become more transparent. This is really exciting and I really appeciate this. And I want to help them to create this strong connection with the community, to become more open and transparent. Thank you to the Drupal Association and the whole community for this effort.

I would like to point to a link where I wrote about my objectives: https://association.drupal.org/node/14488#comment-1823

I just want you to give emphasis to my last sentence: "I think the Drupal Association should act as a catalyst, identifying emerging opportunities and throwing all its weight in to help these initiatives grow faster."

R.J. Townsend (rj), United States
[paste intro]

Ryan Cross (rcross), Australia
[paste intro]

Stephanie Victoria Hosny (stephvhosny), United Kingdom
I'd like to echo that the enthusiasm of the candidates is exceptional and such a positive thing to see that people care so much about taking time to get involved.

Steve Purkiss (stevepurkiss), United Kingdom
My first job was selling computers to small businesses, and whilst I have also worked with many large corporations, it is the small business person I have most affinity with. As we move into an age of more interdependance as many are laid off from work I believe we need to bring back some balance on the board and provide more assistance to those who have the passion and expertise but not necessarily the cash and connect them with those who have the cash but not necessarily the expertise (or indeed passion!). We need to foster the growth of more tools using our own software to help collaboration and start to build a world based on the ways we work together now, not 10, 20 or 30 years ago. By coming onto the board from this side, I bring fresh new ideas and energy, and a network which provides further reach than the board currently possesses in order to help the Association achieve and exceed the initiatives set out for 2012. I am already involved in many of the areas such as talking to universities and organising free training events, I could do this more effectively and to a greater degree if I were to be on the DA board, thus having easier access to more resources and connections.

Todd Tomlinson (toddtomlinson), United States

Meeting 1 IRC log

4:38:15 PM KatteKrab:
4:38:22 PM KatteKrab: webchick: G'day!
4:38:23 PM webchick: We start in 20 mins or so yeah?
4:38:25 PM nickvidal: The photo where he appears with the Australian hat wasn't gimped, was it?
4:38:26 PM webchick: hi.
4:38:31 PM KatteKrab: webchick: yup.
4:38:38 PM KatteKrab: LOL nickvidal - no that's real
4:38:43 PM KatteKrab: but that was from last year I think
4:38:49 PM nickvidal: Hello webchick
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4:55:06 PM tsvenson: Will audio only be available for phone-in?
4:55:43 PM Harley: tsvenson: http://groups.drupal.org/node/206703
4:56:44 PM tsvenson: Harley: Yes, but it doesn't say if audio will be available without phone-in.
4:57:29 PM Harley: tsvenson: gotya....
4:58:01 PM budda: tsvenson: judging by http://groups.drupal.org/node/206703#comment-681723 i'd say no. unless you contact ndjo beforehand
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4:58:55 PM tsvenson: budda: Will check with Nedjo, thanks.
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4:59:24 PM budda: tsvenson: speak of the devil....
4:59:50 PM KatteKrab: tsvenson - steve is streaming live somewhere....
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stevepurkiss [~stevepurk@188-220-18-38.zone11.bethere.co.uk] entered the room. (5:00:03 PM)
5:00:23 PM tsvenson: my vote for a audio stream!
5:00:28 PM tsvenson:
5:00:33 PM stevepurkiss: yo
5:00:34 PM budda: morning stevepurkiss
5:00:42 PM stevepurkiss: morgan budda
5:00:43 PM KatteKrab: yay!
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5:01:00 PM stevepurkiss: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/da-confidential
5:01:15 PM KatteKrab: hey nedjo
5:01:23 PM KatteKrab: nedjo will you be moderating the call?
5:01:38 PM nedjo: yep, dialing now
5:01:39 PM tsvenson: stevepurkiss: Awesome, thanks...
5:01:46 PM morgan_b: stevepurkiss: flash of your head and then a redbull advert!
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5:02:53 PM tsvenson: stevepurkiss: Can only hear you in the stream...
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5:03:23 PM KatteKrab: Should we start with a round of general introductions?
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5:04:12 PM rcross: the access code isn't working for me
5:04:36 PM KatteKrab: rcross - try 02 80725760
5:04:47 PM tsvenson: KatteKrab: Can you ask if stevepurkiss can tweak his settings so we can hear everyone please.
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5:04:57 PM KatteKrab: tsvenson: ok!
5:05:00 PM KatteKrab: HAND!
5:05:16 PM KatteKrab: thanks angie
5:05:22 PM KatteKrab: thanks webchick|scribe
5:05:23 PM stevepurkiss: hmm… mic is doing stream and skype so perhaps conflict?
5:05:27 PM webchick|scribe: But I didn't hear the quesrion.
5:05:36 PM KatteKrab: stevepurkiss: they can only hear you...
5:05:46 PM webchick|scribe: Question from Harley Hyperglide? on D.o
5:05:54 PM stevepurkiss: KatteKrab: who's "they" ?
5:06:17 PM KatteKrab: stevepurkiss: "They" in this case is tsvenson
5:06:21 PM webchick|scribe: Regarding emerging markets in asia. Wants to know if any of the candidates have an idea on how to handle outreach to those markets to solve the talent shortage
5:06:31 PM webchick|scribe: Donna responds
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5:07:00 PM webchick|scribe: (dealing with microphone stuff(
5:07:04 PM Harley: nedjo: Thanks for fielding that questions first.. Appreciate it!
5:07:13 PM webchick|scribe: Donna: I think emerging markets is realy importnat for Drupal's growth
5:07:15 PM budda: isn't there a talent shortage everywhere ?
5:07:20 PM webchick|scribe: skills shoratge stuff, everyone is hitting against that
5:07:26 PM webchick|scribe: important for the DA to focus on
5:07:30 PM webchick|scribe: but we're going to bump into some issues
5:07:46 PM rcross: hand
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5:07:52 PM webchick|scribe: we're going to need to address tension between commercial interst in training and broad-based need for people to learn Drupal
5:07:57 PM webchick|scribe: response from (??? Sorry )
5:08:05 PM nedjo: stephanie
5:08:11 PM webchick|scribe: I totally didn't catch that.
5:08:19 PM webchick|scribe: But basically said she agrees
5:08:23 PM webchick|scribe: Rcross is next
5:08:24 PM KatteKrab: rcross you're up!
5:08:27 PM nickvidal: * nick hand
5:08:37 PM nedjo: rcross: pls go ahead
5:08:47 PM rcross: people can't hear me
5:08:51 PM webchick|scribe: ??? talking from Brazil (Nick?)
5:08:58 PM webchick|scribe: Donna is right. We're also having this issue in Brazil
5:09:01 PM KatteKrab: rcross - nope couldn't hear you
5:09:02 PM webchick|scribe: and all of Latin America
5:09:05 PM webchick|scribe: I think it's important to have a DrupalCon
5:09:10 PM webchick|scribe: it promotes more DrupalCamps all around
5:09:14 PM nedjo: rcross: pls type in irc and I will relay by voice.
5:09:15 PM rcross: will try to call back
5:09:18 PM webchick|scribe: it has a "bottle-up" effect
5:09:24 PM webchick|scribe: Australia has DDU
5:09:29 PM webchick|scribe: Drupal Summit Latino also growing a lot
5:09:38 PM stevepurkiss: raises hand
5:09:46 PM webchick|scribe: These regional summits are interesting, but a DrupalCon could help prompte more Drupal events
5:09:46 PM rcross: i wanted to agree with Donna - but highlight that one thing we forget is that not everyone speaks english
5:09:47 PM webchick|scribe: this is my hope
5:09:50 PM KatteKrab: yeah - the growing camps are great!
5:10:01 PM KatteKrab: rcross - good point.
5:10:04 PM webchick|scribe: Next is Steve Purkiss
5:10:10 PM webchick|scribe: Tend to agree with having more events
5:10:16 PM webchick|scribe: that's exactly what we're doing this year in UK
5:10:19 PM webchick|scribe: having a few events
5:10:21 PM webchick|scribe: but going further
5:10:27 PM webchick|scribe: trying to pick up unemployed people
5:10:35 PM KatteKrab: oh nice! courses for unemplyed ppl and career changers...
5:10:37 PM webchick|scribe: finding it harder to work with people who are freelancers
5:10:57 PM webchick|scribe: great having events, need to do that, but also need to give people job and train them up on the job.
5:10:58 PM webchick|scribe: Stephane:
5:11:01 PM webchick|scribe: I agree with Steve
5:11:14 PM webchick|scribe: It's hard to engage these people since they're not necessarily already involved
5:11:37 PM rcross: at the next DDU, we are trying to focus on "the hidden" - bringing people who are not already part of the community into these events
5:11:40 PM tsvenson: Question: I would like to know from each one if they have any key issue/topic they plan to focus on if elected.
5:12:10 PM webchick|scribe: Very difficult people who are not already engaged
5:12:12 PM KatteKrab: difficult when ppl aren't already engaged
5:12:17 PM webchick|scribe: Oh THANK YOU
5:12:22 PM KatteKrab: I can hear her well
5:12:31 PM KatteKrab: but I missed it
5:12:39 PM webchick|scribe: Now I hear fuzzy.
5:12:46 PM nickvidal: me too
5:12:52 PM webchick|scribe: I think she was saying people who aren't already engaged are hard to get them into events
5:12:59 PM KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: yes
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5:13:32 PM stephvhosny: Yes, sorry - especially those not engaged and also women
5:13:34 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo repeats rcross's points in IRC
5:13:42 PM Harley: Thank you all for the responses and comments.
5:13:43 PM KatteKrab: thanks stephvhosny
5:14:04 PM webchick|scribe: Points out that not everyone speaks english
5:14:09 PM rcross: can people hear me now?
5:14:12 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo is asking people to speak up on the phone.
5:14:28 PM webchick|scribe: Now, round of introductions
5:14:41 PM webchick|scribe: Give people an idea of who you are and what you're interested in bringing to the DA
5:14:47 PM webchick|scribe: Keep to a minute or two
5:14:54 PM nickvidal: hand
5:14:54 PM webchick|scribe: Candidates please raise hands in IRC
5:14:58 PM toddtoml_: raises hand
5:14:59 PM webchick|scribe: And pass on to the next candidate
5:15:00 PM stephvhosny: hand up
5:15:00 PM KatteKrab: Hand - Donna Benjamin
5:15:03 PM skyred: hand
5:15:03 PM rj_: hand
5:15:04 PM stevepurkiss: raises hand
5:15:06 PM budda: stevepurkiss: i can almost hear the audio from your headphones
5:15:06 PM webchick|scribe: Nick to begin with
5:15:18 PM webchick|scribe: For everyone else, please prepare questions to ask either by voice or IRC
5:15:24 PM stevepurkiss: budda: that's cos I gotta £300 mic
5:15:29 PM webchick|scribe: once all candidates have introduced themselves, we'll move onto open questions
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5:15:37 PM budda: stevepurkiss: £300 - cripes.
5:15:40 PM webchick|scribe: Try to ask questions of all candidates in general
5:15:45 PM webchick|scribe: will discuss other questions as follow0ups
5:15:47 PM webchick|scribe: NIck:
5:15:48 PM webchick|scribe: Thank you
5:15:55 PM webchick|scribe: My name is Nick, from Brazil
5:15:57 PM rcross: nedjo: can you check that i'm not muted or something?
5:15:59 PM webchick|scribe: Mostly involved in Drupal Latin commnunity
5:16:06 PM webchick|scribe: Helped organize Drupal SUmmit Latino, like a mini DrupalCon
5:16:13 PM rcross: is there a limit to the number of callers maybe?
5:16:17 PM webchick|scribe: Trying to organize events to bring lots of people together from different countries
5:16:23 PM webchick|scribe: We had Drupal Summit in Peru
5:16:25 PM nedjo: rcross: not sure how to check...
5:16:27 PM webchick|scribe: over 60 countries represented
5:16:35 PM webchick|scribe: Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, etc.
5:16:36 PM KatteKrab: wow! so cool
5:16:46 PM webchick|scribe: Really interesting all of this effort in Drupal Latin Commnunity getting together.
5:16:55 PM webchick|scribe: I want to push this forward. Not just latin community but other parts of the world
5:16:55 PM rcross: nedjo: i've called back twice and it seems people still can't hear me
5:16:59 PM webchick|scribe: Asia, Australia, Africa
dcmouyard [~Adium@pool-108-56-201-228.washdc.fios.verizon.net] entered the room. (5:17:00 PM)
5:17:05 PM webchick|scribe: Something else that we've launched recently is a Drupal magazine
5:17:12 PM webchick|scribe: wanted to bring new people who didnt know anything about Drupal
5:17:18 PM webchick|scribe: publish magazine fully sponsored by companies
5:17:24 PM webchick|scribe: 5,000 copies of 1st issue
5:17:29 PM webchick|scribe: were able to distribute all over Latin America
5:17:35 PM nedjo: nickvidal: thx, a few more seconds then we'll move on to next candidate
5:17:36 PM webchick|scribe: We got a grnt from the DA for 3,000 additional copies
5:17:45 PM webchick|scribe: Talked a lot about the Drupal commnunity
5:17:50 PM webchick|scribe: And how people can engage themselves
5:17:55 PM webchick|scribe: this is what I want to bring forth to the Drupal Association
5:17:57 PM webchick|scribe: more ideas on this end
5:18:14 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo handing of to....
5:18:16 PM webchick|scribe: Todd Tomnlinson!
5:18:20 PM KatteKrab: toddtoml_: is up!
5:18:24 PM webchick|scribe: I'm here in Portland Oregon, home of Durupal Association
5:18:28 PM webchick|scribe: right around corner from the office
5:18:37 PM webchick|scribe: Author of PDD and ?? Drupal 7
5:18:51 PM webchick|scribe: So I'm an author and a shop owner
5:18:54 PM webchick|scribe: both public and private sector
5:19:05 PM webchick|scribe: I'd like to bring focus of evangeliszing Drupal in the enterprise at Corporate level
5:19:16 PM webchick|scribe: In Oracle I spent a bunch of time walking around with senior people
5:19:16 PM KatteKrab: Hand order - nickvidal: toddtoml_ KatteKrab stephvhosny skyred rj_ stevepurkiss
5:19:30 PM webchick|scribe: That's one aspec tI bring to table is commercial experience w/ large sw companies
5:19:37 PM webchick|scribe: i've also sat on board with many private/public companies
5:19:39 PM budda: stevepurkiss: nice druplicon ball
5:19:50 PM webchick|scribe: bring experience that way as well, to help foster growth within community and the board
5:19:53 PM nickvidal: @webchick: sorry for my accent: webchick|scribe> over 60 countries represented => should be 16, not 60!
5:19:55 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: steph
5:19:59 PM webchick|scribe: nickvidal: thanks!
5:20:07 PM nickvidal: thank you
5:20:07 PM webchick|scribe: Stephanie
5:20:15 PM webchick|scribe: I'm working now at business development libraty at Drupal agency
5:20:22 PM webchick|scribe: involved in development, markeitng, fundraising
5:20:27 PM KatteKrab: nedjo: you missed me!
5:20:29 PM webchick|scribe: hope to bring those skills to this role
5:20:31 PM webchick|scribe: not in a technical role
5:20:34 PM KatteKrab: s'ok - I;ll go at the end.
5:20:36 PM webchick|scribe: want to fill in those gaps
5:20:50 PM webchick|scribe: between coding and additional drupal developers and working with corporate companies interested in open source
5:20:58 PM webchick|scribe: finding a lot in the UK that government agencies are adopting open source systems
5:21:01 PM webchick|scribe: great time to be involved in supporitng that
5:21:07 PM webchick|scribe: learning institutions
5:21:12 PM webchick|scribe: and the workforce
5:21:28 PM nedjo: KatteKrab: you're up next (in my IRC list--each IRC hand list is probably different)
5:21:30 PM webchick|scribe: worked for trying to provide alternate curricuum? for women to try and help them
5:21:36 PM KatteKrab: nedjo: ok
5:21:47 PM webchick|scribe: help them go to DrpalCon London and help them learn about the community at large
5:21:56 PM webchick|scribe: Don't sound ery enthusastic at 1:30 in the morning
5:21:59 PM webchick|scribe: I'm incredibly enthusiastic
5:22:02 PM webchick|scribe: Thank you
5:22:14 PM webchick|scribe: Passing to… Donna
5:22:22 PM webchick|scribe: I'm kattekrab on drupal.org and irc
5:22:25 PM webchick|scribe: i'm in melbourne australia
5:22:30 PM webchick|scribe: run my own business cretive contingencies
5:22:33 PM webchick|scribe: usung drupal about 5 years
5:23:07 PM webchick|scribe: i'm really passionate about open source
5:23:15 PM webchick|scribe: fact that it enabeles people to do things not otherwise able to do
5:23:23 PM webchick|scribe: in terms of drupal, drupal association, want to be a voice for the 'small voices'
5:23:32 PM webchick|scribe: small drupal shops, amaetuers, hobbyists, non-profits
5:23:39 PM webchick|scribe: I think we sometimes get caught up in financial opportunities
5:23:45 PM webchick|scribe: but lose sight of the fact that open source is important
5:23:52 PM webchick|scribe: along with nick, want to bring a more global perspective
5:24:00 PM webchick|scribe: there are drupal people all over the world
5:24:09 PM webchick|scribe: and like stephanie mentioned, there are also women all over the world
5:24:13 PM webchick|scribe: how do we get them involved in drupal
5:24:16 PM webchick|scribe: next
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5:24:19 PM nickvidal:
5:24:21 PM stephvhosny: great thanks
5:24:27 PM toddtoml_: yes
5:24:31 PM toddtoml_: we can hear you
5:24:34 PM webchick|scribe: Jingsheng Wang
5:24:39 PM KatteKrab: Yay China!
5:24:44 PM webchick|scribe: I run a Drupal and aAdnroid shop in Shanghai for a year
chx [~chx@drupal.org/user/9446/view] entered the room. (5:24:51 PM)
5:24:56 PM webchick|scribe: Coming to the board I want to do a few things to help the board
5:25:04 PM webchick|scribe: Want to help the Asian chineese/drupal community
5:25:08 PM webchick|scribe: there are a few issues with the current community
5:25:19 PM webchick|scribe: open source, esp. drupal not emphszied
5:25:24 PM webchick|scribe: other parts of world use drupal.org, groups.drupal.org
5:25:39 PM webchick|scribe: but because those sites are not chinese-friendly, we use different platforms, different social networks, etc. to communicate
5:25:51 PM nedjo: status: candidates are currently introducing selves. Following that, we will have questions, with hands in IRC or, for people not in IRC, voice.
5:25:52 PM webchick|scribe: I want to help bring more chinese to drupal.org (?)
5:25:56 PM webchick|scribe: also want to spread drupal here
5:26:00 PM webchick|scribe: only a few small shops using Drupal.org
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5:26:12 PM webchick|scribe: 2nd thing I want to help with is prompte Drupal in china and asia
5:26:16 PM webchick|scribe: 3rd thing is...
5:26:18 PM webchick|scribe: (loud noise)
5:26:25 PM webchick|scribe: DrupalCon Asia
5:26:33 PM Crell: Who's talking?
5:26:35 PM webchick|scribe: The discussion was started in DrupalCon SF 2010
5:26:42 PM webchick|scribe: Crell: skyred
5:26:42 PM KatteKrab: Crell: skyred is talking
5:26:45 PM webchick|scribe: proposal for china, australia
5:26:47 PM Crell: kk
5:26:48 PM nedjo: skyred: thx, please wrap up in a few seconds
5:26:49 PM Crell: just got here.
5:26:55 PM webchick|scribe: I want to help the board to continue discussion and to prepare for DrupalCon Asia
5:27:03 PM webchick|scribe: done
5:27:10 PM webchick|scribe: Next: RJ
5:27:14 PM webchick|scribe: Hi, my name is RJ Townsend
5:27:20 PM webchick|scribe: Split time between Phili and DC
5:27:24 PM webchick|scribe: Working with Drupal for 6 years
5:27:27 PM webchick|scribe: Member of community 4.5 years
5:27:32 PM webchick|scribe: Manage small team of Drupal developers
5:27:40 PM webchick|scribe: Almost exclusively with enterprise clients that require large website build
5:27:44 PM webchick|scribe: Also author of Foundation Drupal 7
5:27:48 PM webchick|scribe: and owner of Code my designs
5:27:54 PM webchick|scribe: I think I bring 2 unique perspectives to board
5:28:05 PM webchick|scribe: for about 5 years I worked almost exclusively with small designers, small agencies
5:28:12 PM webchick|scribe: jave understanding of issues faced with Drupal
5:28:20 PM webchick|scribe: At the same time, working with larger enterprise clients
5:28:24 PM webchick|scribe: see same questions, same concerns
5:28:36 PM webchick|scribe: I see myself being able to help organizations to work with the DA, the community
5:28:41 PM nedjo: rj_: thx, pleas wrap up in a few seconds
5:28:50 PM webchick|scribe: so that in the end they can understand it, leverage it, give back to not just DA and Drupal community bit also open source community
5:28:54 PM webchick|scribe: next
5:28:54 PM webchick|scribe: Steve
5:29:09 PM webchick|scribe: I joined the drupal commnunity 6 years ago
5:29:13 PM webchick|scribe: didn't want to use drupal in first place
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5:29:18 PM webchick|scribe: same reason people don't use it now
5:29:20 PM webchick|scribe: seemed complicated, etc.
5:29:32 PM webchick|scribe: my one site ended up getting re-written in Drupal, fell in love.
5:29:34 PM KatteKrab: that's awesome!
5:29:37 PM webchick|scribe: 5 years didn't give much to the community
5:29:41 PM KatteKrab: stevepurkiss++
5:29:42 PM webchick|scribe: went to DrupalCon CPH and completely change dmy life
5:29:49 PM webchick|scribe: People talking about Drupal, teaching others
5:29:50 PM webchick|scribe: I do the same now
5:30:00 PM webchick|scribe: In the DA, I see lots of conversations happening all over the world
5:30:01 PM webchick|scribe: but not conected
5:30:09 PM nedjo: status: candidates are currently introducing selves. Following that, we will have questions, with hands in IRC or, for people not in IRC, voice.
5:30:15 PM webchick|scribe: I see myself being able to connect what's going on in Australia, Asia, and make sure we're speaking as one voice
5:30:21 PM webchick|scribe: i come from a small background
5:30:23 PM webchick|scribe: not a big consultancy
5:30:29 PM webchick|scribe: I can speak for the "normal guy" in the equation
5:30:39 PM nedjo: all: pls raise hands here (by typing "hand') if you have questions
5:30:51 PM KatteKrab: nedjo what about ryan rcross?
5:30:57 PM webchick|scribe: Next:
5:30:58 PM rcross: hand
5:30:58 PM webchick|scribe: Ryan
5:31:14 PM webchick|scribe: I got started in Drupal about 6 years ago
5:31:18 PM webchick|scribe: Working on a university project
5:31:22 PM webchick|scribe: Fell in love with it
5:31:28 PM webchick|scribe: eventually ended up reaching out to start Sydney community
5:31:32 PM webchick|scribe: running that for 4.5 years
5:31:42 PM webchick|scribe: coordinating with other Australian organizers such as Donna
5:31:48 PM webchick|scribe: at moment I run small Drpal shop for 3 years now
5:31:57 PM webchick|scribe: outside of that, co-founded another open source organization
5:32:02 PM webchick|scribe: web-based collaboration tool
5:32:09 PM webchick|scribe: been involved in developing that community, and software
5:32:16 PM webchick|scribe: have other experience with larger orgs, industry orgs
5:32:22 PM webchick|scribe: started up 3 other companies, advisor for 5 others
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5:32:33 PM webchick|scribe: one thing I'm passionate about is getting more people on the ground talking to each other
5:32:37 PM webchick|scribe: providing global perspective
5:32:40 PM webchick|scribe: in the DA
5:32:58 PM webchick|scribe: I don't think peope forget about us, but I feel like people in Austraila, India, Asia get the same voice/exposure people in NA and EU get
5:33:06 PM webchick|scribe: One of the things we started was to being a large Drupal event here
5:33:13 PM nedjo: rcross: thx, please wrap up in a few seconds
5:33:16 PM webchick|scribe: with support of broader Australian community we have our own strong national event
5:33:20 PM webchick|scribe: but not the same exposure as DrupalCon
5:33:24 PM webchick|scribe: Thhat's something I want to bring to the DA
5:33:35 PM webchick|scribe: kevinjohngallagh: are you here?
5:33:53 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: It's very exciting to move past theory, and to have you all here
5:33:57 PM webchick|scribe: Going to move onto the questions
5:34:20 PM tsvenson: Q to each candidate: What do you see as the biggest obstacles for new Drupal users, especially non coders with small or no budgets, often leading to them quickly going elsewhere? And what will you do to change that?
5:34:21 PM webchick|scribe: would like to focus on questions that all candidates could answer, then focus on individual candidates questions
5:34:32 PM webchick|scribe: First question (repeating tsvenson's question)
5:34:45 PM webchick|scribe: Candidates raise hand to respond
5:34:53 PM rj_: hand
5:34:54 PM stephvhosny: hand
5:34:58 PM skyred: hand
5:34:58 PM nickvidal: hand
5:35:01 PM stevepurkiss: raises hand
5:35:04 PM webchick|scribe: and if you've already repsonded to previous question, please leave question for others who've not had a chance
5:35:11 PM rcross: hand
5:35:21 PM webchick|scribe: First hand from RJ, go ahead
5:35:23 PM webchick|scribe: RJ:
5:35:28 PM webchick|scribe: I see it as a lack of understanding about the community
5:35:30 PM KatteKrab: can we answer some of these here - rather than by voice?
5:35:39 PM webchick|scribe: not really knowing that there are people in the community available on the forums to answer questions, meetups, drupalcamps
5:35:42 PM nedjo: KatteKrab: yes
5:35:44 PM webchick|scribe: lots of oportunuties for people to network and meet others
5:35:50 PM webchick|scribe: It's education
5:35:55 PM KatteKrab: cool - thanks nedjo
5:35:57 PM webchick|scribe: There's a process, a path to become part of the Drupal community
5:36:15 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo: If you wish to respond in IRC, go ahead
5:36:17 PM rcross: both
5:36:20 PM stephvhosny: both
5:36:21 PM toddtoml_: both
5:36:22 PM KatteKrab: I think we need to address the documentation teams issues
5:36:22 PM stevepurkiss: both
5:36:23 PM rj_: both
5:36:23 PM Crell: is on both.
5:36:24 PM webchick|scribe: nedjo: If you're on voice but not IRC, please let us know
5:36:26 PM skyred: both
5:36:29 PM KatteKrab: because they are the front line for new users
5:36:32 PM webchick|scribe: (no one responds)
5:36:40 PM KatteKrab: our online help and support is critical
5:36:42 PM webchick|scribe: Next: Stephanie
5:36:57 PM KatteKrab: infrastructure bottle necks are a real issue
5:36:59 PM webchick|scribe: Support is really the key thing
5:37:09 PM webchick|scribe: the network that they rely on, but also in terms of them finding leverage they've got with the community
5:37:14 PM webchick|scribe: marketing materials, welath ofcommunity
5:37:16 PM KatteKrab: and that is something the DA can help with - and it's on the roadmap for 2012 - which is great
5:37:22 PM webchick|scribe: without community just like any other software
5:37:28 PM webchick|scribe: so this is a strength we need to better promote
5:37:32 PM nedjo: all: please prepare questions for copying here
5:37:35 PM KatteKrab: tsvenson: see above
5:37:36 PM webchick|scribe: Skyred:
5:37:42 PM webchick|scribe: I agree with RJ, the biggest effort should be education
5:37:44 PM rcross: I think there are a few key issues... mostly that boil down to guidance (of which support is related, but different)... 1) guidance w/ using the software
5:37:50 PM rcross: 2) perception of other tools
5:37:52 PM webchick|scribe: In Asian countries, we have another prbolem
5:37:55 PM webchick|scribe: centralization of those resources
5:37:55 PM nickvidal: oops, i'll go next
5:38:08 PM webchick|scribe: For Asia countries, we want to centralize those efforts into groups.drupal.org
5:38:10 PM webchick|scribe: Nick:
5:38:16 PM webchick|scribe: I agree with RJ and Steph that community support is very important
5:38:16 PM toddtoml_: Working with clients I often find that they don't understand the vast array of resources that are available in the community. When I point them to a few resources I find that they are often overwhelmed with where to start. My suggestion is that as a group we build an educational roadmap with clearly defined tracks that address the various aspects of using Drupal (e.g., site builder, site ad
5:38:17 PM toddtoml_: ministrator, theme, etc.)
5:38:18 PM rcross: 3) lack of confidence in exploring /software
5:38:22 PM webchick|scribe: What I saw about objectives for 2012 in DA
5:38:25 PM KatteKrab: I agree with skyred - there is a language / technical barrier there too.
5:38:32 PM nedjo: who is speaking?
5:38:38 PM webchick|scribe: was to really support both organizing events such as Drupwl in a Day and also organizing the Documentation
5:38:40 PM KatteKrab: nedjo: nickvidal is speaking
5:38:43 PM webchick|scribe: for example, creating documentation for site builders
5:38:46 PM webchick|scribe: not just about programming
5:38:58 PM webchick|scribe: if someone can't get into Drupal and see how it works, they can't get into the code
5:39:03 PM webchick|scribe: this is one of the key ideas that we'll push for
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5:39:28 PM webchick: Q: For those who want to promote international diversity, explain how a position on the DA helps you do that more effectively.
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5:39:36 PM webchick|scribe: Steve repsonds:
5:39:43 PM webchick|scribe: If we talk about education
5:39:46 PM toddtoml_: that was a response to the question
5:39:52 PM nedjo: toddtoml_: thx
5:39:54 PM webchick|scribe: In Brighton I did training for 149 pounds a day
5:40:01 PM webchick|scribe: and others saying "I couldn't do training for that price"
5:40:05 PM webchick|scribe: This is why we need more balance in the DA
5:40:06 PM KatteKrab: Hand! (to answer webchicks question)
5:40:17 PM webchick|scribe: we need more small organizations represented
5:40:22 PM webchick|scribe: the thing about Drupal is it hits both sides of that equation
5:40:27 PM webchick|scribe: if we only go to the commercial side, we have a problem
5:40:29 PM KatteKrab: agrees violently with stevepurkiss
5:40:30 PM nedjo: all: pls type "question: ..." for questions, so I can recognize
5:40:32 PM webchick|scribe: and if it only goes to the other side we have a problem
5:40:35 PM rcross: webchick|scribe: /hand for me
5:40:36 PM webchick|scribe: Next hand is Donna
5:41:15 PM webchick|scribe: (reading my question)
5:41:20 PM rcross: hand
5:41:23 PM webchick|scribe: (donna's hand is in relation to my question)
5:41:42 PM stevepurkiss: KatteKrab++
5:41:42 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo taking hands from peope who preferably haven't answered question yet
5:41:44 PM webchick|scribe: Donna:
5:41:51 PM webchick|scribe: This is one of the things that is kind of at the core of my platform
5:42:01 PM webchick|scribe: International diversity is core to the goal of the DA
5:42:04 PM webchick|scribe: the current board:
5:42:10 PM webchick|scribe: everyone except for one is located in NA, and that one is in EU
5:42:17 PM webchick|scribe: While these people have an international perspective
5:42:19 PM skyred: echo... can't hear clearly
5:42:31 PM webchick|scribe: it's not until you are somewhere, it's hard to empathize
5:42:41 PM webchick|scribe: for example, the call tomorrow. while not required to be there, will our absence hurt our candidacy?
5:42:50 PM webchick|scribe: What I would do is just be really noisy about it
5:42:53 PM webchick|scribe: keep saying HEY
5:42:57 PM webchick|scribe: have we reached out at Africa?
5:43:02 PM Crell: penguins++
5:43:07 PM webchick|scribe: have we looked at DrupalCon in Antarctica and dressing up as penguins?
5:43:07 PM stevepurkiss: penguins++
5:43:11 PM rcross: donna wants us to dress up as penguins!
5:43:11 PM rcross:
5:43:12 PM skyred: hand
5:43:16 PM webchick|scribe: Just be noisy and irritating, that's what I would do
5:43:18 PM webchick|scribe: Next
5:43:21 PM webchick|scribe: Skyred:
5:43:31 PM webchick|scribe: I think being on the board will help me to use the authority
5:43:40 PM webchick|scribe: for example, international support of documentation on drupal.org
5:43:46 PM webchick|scribe: proposal was a long time ago, no one has responded
5:43:51 PM rcross: hand
5:43:54 PM webchick|scribe: if I'm on board, someone will look at my prposal
5:44:00 PM webchick|scribe: secnond, on board I can help rpepare DrupalCon Asia
5:44:04 PM webchick|scribe: Next: rcross
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5:44:28 PM webchick: Q: For those who want more outreach to enterprise clients, can you ex[lain where you feel the current board is lacking expertise in this area?
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5:44:36 PM webchick|scribe: Ryan
5:44:49 PM webchick|scribe: I've had experience on other boards with diversity issues before
5:44:52 PM webchick|scribe: women, geographical
5:44:58 PM webchick|scribe: not that anyone intentionally excludes anyone
5:45:07 PM webchick|scribe: but if you don't have people involved in design proicess for things they have inherent probles with
5:45:12 PM KatteKrab: rcross++
5:45:12 PM webchick|scribe: their voice doesn't get heard, included in design proices
5:45:17 PM webchick|scribe: design naturally doesn't cater to thenm
5:45:20 PM stephvhosny: hand
5:45:26 PM webchick|scribe: i want to bridge that gap
5:45:31 PM webchick|scribe: not only will being on other side of world will be helpful
5:45:39 PM webchick|scribe: but will also help us reach out to not this region but other regions
5:45:39 PM nedjo: stephvhosny: pls type response in irc
5:45:40 PM skyred: hand
5:45:46 PM webchick|scribe: that will help to be on the board
5:45:52 PM skyred: cancel
5:45:57 PM webchick|scribe: Next question
5:46:10 PM stephvhosny: My experience in the support side of the fence - see the issues coming up post implementation
5:46:10 PM webchick|scribe: (Nedjo is reading the above question about enterprise and board stuff)
5:46:27 PM stevepurkiss: hand
5:46:35 PM webchick|scribe: Steve:
5:46:52 PM KatteKrab: stevepurkiss: we can't hear you?
5:46:57 PM webchick|scribe: (can't hear him )
5:47:07 PM stephvhosny: hope to develop post implementation support and over come barriers and issues
5:47:08 PM webchick|scribe: Other hands?
5:47:11 PM webchick|scribe: Oh! He's back.
5:47:12 PM webchick|scribe: Steve:
5:47:20 PM toddtoml_: A: to question about enterprise clients. My experience is in selling and delivering services to the Global 2000 - specifically to the board rooms and C' level executives in major corporations, such as Kraft Foods, New Zealand Telecom, AT&T Europe, Hansol Telecom Asia, Bell South, British Steel. While I don't know the experience of the current board members - my history and track record poin
5:47:21 PM toddtoml_: ts to specific expertise in conveying the value of technology to senior executives. I have also been defending DRupal in the board rooms - especially when it comes to Gartner and the lack of visibility of Drupal in the Magic Quadrant.
5:47:27 PM rcross: A: I think that the commercial interests in Drupal are potentially better places to market Drupal to the enterprise. I would rather see more efforts directed at marketing Drupal in areas where commercial interests are less capable
5:47:32 PM webchick|scribe: I think that the issue is in growing the commercial side of it
5:47:40 PM webchick|scribe: using the old IT-type of commercial growth
5:47:44 PM webchick|scribe: IBM people,
5:47:51 PM webchick|scribe: we've grown this great modular piece of software
5:47:53 PM nedjo: looking for next question.
5:47:55 PM webchick|scribe: but not a modular business around it
5:48:09 PM webchick|scribe: old software and old business models have failed
5:48:19 PM toddtoml_: A: My experience is as an Associate Partner with Accenture/Andersen Consulting, Sr. Director of EBusiness Strategy for Oracle Corporation, Practice Director for IBM, etc.
5:48:29 PM Crell: Should we just state questions here, or PM to someone?
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5:48:38 PM nedjo: state questions here
5:48:38 PM webchick|scribe: Crell: just state here with "Q"
5:48:41 PM webchick|scribe: Todd responding
5:48:51 PM rcross: A: (cont'd) focusing on promoting Drupal on the ground will also help support drupal growth in all these areas
5:48:52 PM webchick|scribe: In my position, I march around world prompting drupal at large organizations
5:48:58 PM webchick|scribe: run across a lot of unfoudned resistance to Drupal
5:49:07 PM webchick|scribe: because of fear they have of open source software
5:49:14 PM rj_: A about enterpr5ise clients: What I have found is there is a lack of understanding about the open source culture; to quote ERS, it's a gift culture where respect is earned by giving back.
5:49:14 PM webchick|scribe: doesn't show up in magic quadrant because we don't sell licenses
5:49:24 PM webchick|scribe: in my career, been focused on C-level board level of fortune 2000 companies
5:49:27 PM webchick|scribe: ford, etc.
5:49:28 PM nedjo: toddtoml_: pls wrap up in a few seconds
5:49:28 PM webchick|scribe: around the world
5:49:33 PM webchick|scribe: global focus for 25 years
5:49:38 PM stevepurkiss: when I was at remoteapps we paid about £80k t be in the magic quadrant - it's all a sham!
5:49:40 PM webchick|scribe: Drupal has a lot of value for both small and large organisationz
5:49:54 PM webchick|scribe: coming out of large software industry, have perspective on raising visibikity of Drupal
5:50:01 PM webchick|scribe: we've been successful as organization
5:50:06 PM Crell: Q: Currently Drupal's face in the world is a mix of face-less Drupal.org and Acquia. Acquia is the face of Drupal, rightly or wrongly, in many eyes, moreso with the new Office of the CTO. Drupal of course is far far more than Acquia. What if anything do you feel the DA can or should do to counter-balance that, or is that even an appropriate role for the DA?
5:50:09 PM webchick|scribe: scholastic just launched on Drupal
5:50:13 PM webchick|scribe: done
5:50:20 PM rcross: hand
5:50:24 PM KatteKrab: hand
5:50:33 PM Crell: causes trouble... *
5:50:38 PM webchick|scribe: (Nedjo reading Crell's question)
5:50:43 PM stephvhosny: hand
5:50:48 PM webchick|scribe: Ryan:
5:50:48 PM rj_: hand
5:50:50 PM stevepurkiss: hand
5:50:55 PM KatteKrab: let stephvhosny go before me...
5:51:04 PM KatteKrab: I'll answer here instead
5:51:18 PM webchick|scribe: I think that the biggest thing I'd say is I don't think any organization should look at countering something like Acquia
5:51:28 PM KatteKrab: I think the DA needs to look at the apache and gnome foundations
5:51:31 PM webchick|scribe: if anythung the DA should be more concerned with providing an even playing field for entire communty\
5:51:35 PM stephvhosny: DA role should be to harness and to promote the successes of Drupal and therefore allowing others to shine as well rather than instead of
5:51:36 PM webchick|scribe: rather than looking at specific shops/companies
5:51:43 PM webchick|scribe: in terms of perception of acquia as face of commnunity
5:51:48 PM webchick|scribe: that's something we as community need to work towards.
5:51:55 PM stevepurkiss: We just need to educate people more as to the fact we're not one organisation and everyone has the freedom to join in and be part of it
5:51:55 PM webchick|scribe: acquia's done well promoting Drupal in enterptrise
5:51:58 PM toddtoml_: A: I believe the DA CAN be the face of Drupal to the market -- we have the ability to fulfill that role -
5:51:59 PM webchick|scribe: that's been great for us
5:52:07 PM webchick|scribe: but it's a reason that we need to focus on smaller businesses, smaller websites
5:52:08 PM nedjo: rcross: pls wrap up in a few secs
5:52:16 PM KatteKrab: Acquia is incredibly important and powerful - but as far as the DA concerned - Acquia should just be one of many ddrupal companies
5:52:21 PM webchick|scribe: because larger organizations like acquia aren't focusing on these
5:52:27 PM webchick|scribe: raise the bar for everyone, not just focus on one org
5:52:35 PM webchick|scribe: Stephanie:
5:52:49 PM webchick|scribe: I think the DA should be promoting successes of Drupal everywhere
5:52:49 PM KatteKrab: the DA needs to focus on the community and the infrastructure the community needs to make drupal better.
5:52:53 PM webchick|scribe: not 'instead' of Acquia
5:53:00 PM toddtoml_: A: I believe the DA board should be the vocal evangelists of the platform to the world
5:53:01 PM skyred: hand
5:53:01 PM webchick|scribe: whether there are more things we could offer alongside that
5:53:06 PM webchick|scribe: increase sponsorship opportunities
5:53:09 PM webchick|scribe: allow everyone to shine
5:53:12 PM webchick|scribe: RJ:
5:53:17 PM stephvhosny: thanks kate
5:53:25 PM webchick|scribe: I see Acquia as commercial side of Drupal that vaidates Drupal to enterptise
5:53:29 PM KatteKrab: rj_++
5:53:29 PM webchick|scribe: DA should focus on communty
5:53:29 PM stephvhosny: sorry donna
5:53:32 PM nedjo: any more questions?
5:53:35 PM webchick|scribe: so non-enterprise clients have resources they can go to
5:53:42 PM KatteKrab: stephvhosny: no no - that's fine!!
5:54:01 PM KatteKrab: stephvhosny: happens all the time
5:54:01 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo:
5:54:05 PM webchick|scribe: Going to summarize thusfar
5:54:13 PM webchick|scribe: got a bit of time to know the cnadidates at beginning of this call
5:54:18 PM rcross: q: is kevinjohngallagh still here? I'd be curious about his perspective of the drupal community vs the wordpress comunity in light of his recent experience?
5:54:19 PM webchick|scribe: good questions that get at heart of current issues
5:54:22 PM tsvenson: Q to all: We just had a live usability test that showed we have still very much to do. How do you propose we can put more efforts into making Drupal, including contib projects, more user friendly and intuitive?
5:54:32 PM webchick|scribe: looking for last questuon, here we have it.
5:54:34 PM webchick|scribe: 5 mintues left
5:54:40 PM webchick|scribe: (reading tsvenson's question)
5:54:47 PM KatteKrab: tsvenson: that was awesome.
5:54:54 PM skyred: Answer: DA should not take the role to counter individual shop, but DA should be prepared for any potential Open Source Hijacking
5:54:57 PM skyred: Crell, ^^
5:55:01 PM stevepurkiss: hand
5:55:12 PM tsvenson: KatteKrab: Sure was, unfortunately even worse that I thought
5:55:16 PM Crell: Can we get candidates voiced in this channel so we can tell who is a candidate and who is not?
5:55:23 PM webchick|scribe: Please answer question in IRC
5:55:29 PM webchick|scribe: and will allow each candidate to have something to leave us with
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5:55:57 PM webchick: I'd like to answer that. The DA doesn't have say over the project, so what we should do is figure out what the comminity need to improve usability.
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5:56:05 PM webchick|scribe: Steve:
5:56:06 PM KatteKrab: Hand
5:56:08 PM rcross: *hand

5:56:32 PM webchick|scribe: We've opened this up to the community and done lots of things in last 3 years
5:56:38 PM webchick|scribe: I think the DA needs to have a more hanbds-on approach
5:56:45 PM webchick|scribe: We're all doing good things all over the place
5:56:47 PM webchick|scribe: but we need to connect more
5:56:51 PM webchick|scribe: 600K developers, not many marketers
5:56:55 PM webchick|scribe: Donna:
5:57:01 PM webchick|scribe: I'd liek to finish off by saying Drupal is awesome
5:57:05 PM webchick|scribe: the community is what makes it that
5:57:14 PM webchick|scribe: I am desperate to give back to this project and this commnuity in the best way I can
5:57:18 PM webchick|scribe: I'm not a coder, designer, documenter
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5:57:21 PM rcross: A: i think the usability of core/contrib can be improved mostly by providing standards/guidance and tools for people to measure and compare usability
5:57:24 PM webchick|scribe: but I am good at doing committees and organizign thing
5:57:27 PM webchick|scribe: and folliwing up on stuff
5:57:29 PM stevepurkiss: ok - I think we should eat more of our own dogfood - many use apps which could be done in drupal, if not already, because they're easier to use - but that's not the point - the more we use our own software the better it will get, if we don't, it won't /my2p
5:57:31 PM toddtoml_: A: we've come so far from where we were back in Drupal 3. While there is always room for improvement, I think that education will help solve the perception problems. Its hard for commercial software enterprises to get it right. So I believe we need to promote how well it works! Our clients love it -- its amazingly powerful and properly trained users go a long ways to solving the "usabilit
5:57:31 PM toddtoml_: y" issues
5:57:33 PM webchick|scribe: I really could put my all in and be useful on the board
5:57:34 PM tsvenson: webchick|scribe: I think DA can do much to guide and educate project maintainers about the benefits and base practice of improved usability though.
5:57:36 PM webchick|scribe: rcross:
5:57:37 PM rj_: Answer: standards, which we are doing great at (ie. module coding standards, commenting standards, etc.), but also getting more users involved in the process. I have heard it frequently said that Drupal is a hard community to break into, and getting more people involved in the process will lower those barriers of entry
5:57:38 PM stephvhosny: A: multi pronged approach with user feedback gathered and work together on one agenda.
5:57:50 PM webchick|scribe: I think one of the things to highlight is in addition to being passionate about things I've talked about
5:58:02 PM webchick|scribe: I want to focus on getting people who are using Drupal already but not part of community into the community
5:58:15 PM webchick|scribe: one of the things highlighted last month was sponsoring someone who wouldn't be able to go to a Drupal event there,
5:58:21 PM stevepurkiss: claps
5:58:22 PM webchick|scribe: by end of event, got his first core patch comitted
5:58:34 PM webchick|scribe: shows that reaching out to people who wouldn't otherwise be part of this commmunity can be part
5:58:37 PM webchick|scribe: really want to champion
5:58:38 PM webchick|scribe: skyred:
5:58:43 PM webchick|scribe: Asia has huge # of programmers
5:58:48 PM webchick|scribe: DA has incentove to prompte Drupal in Asia
5:58:50 PM webchick|scribe: I'm ready to help!
5:58:52 PM webchick|scribe: Steph:
5:59:04 PM webchick|scribe: With a multi-pronged approach
5:59:10 PM webchick|scribe: all of us working towards that one agenda
5:59:16 PM webchick|scribe: I'm also not developer, not designer
5:59:33 PM webchick|scribe: these other candidates are great, have really floored me with their enthusiasm
5:59:35 PM webchick|scribe: Todd:
5:59:44 PM nedjo: candidates: if you haven't spoken please raise your hand here
5:59:48 PM KatteKrab: Q: how can the DA help make Drupal & Contrib more usable? <== Continue to improve the infrastrucuture... and invest in the tools we use... eg D.O
5:59:54 PM rj_: hand
5:59:55 PM nickvidal: hand
6:00:04 PM webchick|scribe: RJ:
6:00:15 PM webchick|scribe: I see my role as hjelping everyone from small, non-Drupal design shops to enterprtise orgs
6:00:16 PM toddtoml_: Sorry lost cell coverage -- I'll answer in IRC
6:00:17 PM webchick|scribe: understanding open source
6:00:20 PM webchick|scribe: understanding drupal communty
6:00:24 PM webchick|scribe: how they can contribute to that, become involved
6:00:26 PM webchick|scribe: NickL
6:00:30 PM nickvidal: nickvidal's objectives: https://association.drupal.org/node/14488#comment-1823
6:00:34 PM webchick|scribe: I would like to point to ;link where I wrote about my objectives
6:00:40 PM KatteKrab: nickvidal: you're awesome!
6:00:41 PM webchick|scribe: I just want you to read the last sentence
6:00:46 PM webchick|scribe: I think DA should act as a capitalist
6:00:52 PM webchick|scribe: identify emerging opportunities
6:00:57 PM webchick|scribe: throw its weight into helping drupal grow faster
6:01:01 PM rcross: *I'd also like to add, I think campaigns and efforts to work in the community should continue regardless. I really want to contribute to the Association and provide a global perspective into the policies and projects they are working on.
6:01:04 PM webchick|scribe: Nedjo
6:01:08 PM webchick|scribe: Wow everyone, I am SO impressed
6:01:12 PM webchick|scribe: thank you all for your participation today
6:01:15 PM webchick|scribe: really overjoyed
6:01:22 PM KatteKrab: nedjo and webchick|scribe THANK YOU
6:01:22 PM toddtoml_: Drupal Rocks
6:01:25 PM stephvhosny: thanks for having us
6:01:29 PM stevepurkiss: drupal++
6:01:30 PM webchick|scribe: been working on this a long time, and hope that you are all able to help regardless of who is elected
6:01:35 PM webchick|scribe: will post a version of this to the DA's group
6:01:35 PM nickvidal: @webchick: catalyst (not capitalist) - sorry for my accent again
6:01:43 PM tsvenson: webchick|scribe: Your fingers must be bleeding by now.
6:01:44 PM webchick|scribe: please as candidates come in and correct what we got wrong
6:01:47 PM rcross: i'm extremely impressed to see so many other international nominees!!...

Meeting 2 IRC log

(12:01:07 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo:
(12:01:07 PM) webchick|scribe: Welcome everyone!
(12:01:11 PM) webchick|scribe: Great to have you here
(12:01:17 PM) webchick|scribe: Going to start with brief outline for how we'll conduct the meeting
(12:01:19 PM) webchick|scribe: Then we'll get started
(12:01:24 PM) Slurpee: whats the #? i willd ial on a diff phone
(12:01:25 PM) webchick|scribe: We are going to try and make good use of IRC
(12:01:28 PM) webchick|scribe: at the same time as voice
(12:01:32 PM) KatteKrab: Oh hi jhodgdon :)
(12:01:35 PM) webchick|scribe: so in the question part of the meeting
(12:01:39 PM) webchick|scribe: we will have questions asked in IRC
(12:01:49 PM) webchick|scribe: and then we'll have a chance to read voice responses for questions
(12:02:00 PM) jhodgdon: hi KatteKrab - 4 AM you are chipper!
(12:02:00 PM) webchick|scribe: and then for the balance of that, I'll ask candidates to respond also on IRC so we can fit in more questions.
(12:02:11 PM) KatteKrab: jhodgdon: I'm pretending ;)
(12:02:13 PM) greggles: Slurpee: dial in details are on http://groups.drupal.org/node/206708
(12:02:18 PM) webchick|scribe: For those of you who are here with your numerous questions you want to ask of the candidates, please start queueing those up in your text editors!
(12:02:26 PM) webchick|scribe: when the questions are opened, you'll be ready
(12:02:36 PM) webchick|scribe: General format from first meeting went well, so going to try that for this meeting as well
(12:02:41 PM) webchick|scribe: We'll begin with a brief introduction
(12:02:43 PM) webchick|scribe: from each candidate
(12:02:49 PM) webchick|scribe: then a question period
(12:02:56 PM) webchick|scribe: then finally at the end a quick wrap-up from each candidate
(12:03:01 PM) webchick|scribe: one thing they hadn't got a chance to say earlier
(12:03:05 PM) webchick|scribe: the only difference this time
(12:03:09 PM) webchick|scribe: is to keep the intros as brief as possible
(12:03:16 PM) webchick|scribe: going to try timing and cutting you off, not because I'm not interested
(12:03:23 PM) Slurpee: greggles, thanks
(12:03:23 PM) webchick|scribe: but because I want to leave a bit more time for Qs and less on intros
(12:03:34 PM) webchick|scribe: So with those introductions, going to confirm a couple of questions about protocool here
(12:03:37 PM) webchick|scribe: We have Angie
(12:03:41 PM) webchick|scribe: Very genrously scribing for us ;)
(12:03:42 PM) webchick|scribe: in IRC
(12:03:43 PM) stephvhosny: thanks web
(12:03:46 PM) **RodneyTheCat rubs in-between webchick's legs
(12:03:46 PM) KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: you are an amazing scribe!
(12:03:47 PM) stephvhosny: thanks webchick|scribe
(12:03:53 PM) mrconnerton: woot webchick|scribe!
(12:03:53 PM) webchick|scribe: And we have people both on voice and IRC
(12:04:02 PM) webchick|scribe: would like to get a sense right now if there's anyone on the call
(12:04:05 PM) webchick|scribe: who is on voice but not on irc
(12:04:11 PM) ***KatteKrab is on both.
(12:04:13 PM) webchick|scribe: that'll help us assess how to manage the topic of bands
(12:04:17 PM) webchick|scribe: if you are on voice but not irc speak up now
(12:04:20 PM) greggles: s/bands/hands/
(12:04:20 PM) webchick|scribe: (nothing)
(12:04:22 PM) webchick|scribe: (still nothing)
(12:04:22 PM) stephvhosny: im on both
(12:04:30 PM) mrconnerton: on both
(12:04:31 PM) webchick|scribe: (even still nothing)
(12:04:39 PM) webchick|scribe: OK we're goiing to rely strictly on IRC
(12:04:40 PM) webchick|scribe: Ok
(12:04:44 PM) webchick|scribe: First up, all candidates in meeting
(12:04:46 PM) webchick|scribe: type out 'hand'
(12:04:47 PM) stevepurkiss: hand
(12:04:48 PM) toddtomlinson: hand
(12:04:49 PM) mrconnerton: hand
(12:04:51 PM) ***KatteKrab hand
(12:04:51 PM) nickvidal: hand
(12:04:51 PM) skyred: hand
(12:04:52 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:04:58 PM) ***RodneyTheCat paws
(12:05:03 PM) webchick|scribe: will go through one by one, have a minute and a half to give sense of who you are and what you bring to the DA board
(12:05:14 PM) webchick|scribe: We;ll get going with that round, followed by Qs
(12:05:20 PM) webchick|scribe: First would like to see Qs addressed to all candidates
(12:05:23 PM) Crell: jredding_: Can you Voice the candidates in channel, so that they show up separately in the nick list?
(12:05:25 PM) webchick|scribe: then if time later, we can open for individual candidates
(12:05:35 PM) webchick|scribe: steve purkiss please go
(12:05:36 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve:
(12:05:38 PM) webchick|scribe: Hi everyone
(12:05:40 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve here
(12:05:43 PM) webchick|scribe: I live in Brighton UK
(12:05:48 PM) webchick|scribe: been building up commuity for past 6 years
(12:05:53 PM) webchick|scribe: didn't want to use it in the first place
(12:05:56 PM) webchick|scribe: one of my sites got re-written
(12:06:01 PM) webchick|scribe: jupmed in, loved ever since
(12:06:05 PM) webchick|scribe: I've been involved in community side of it
(12:06:16 PM) webchick|scribe: (missed it :()
(12:06:26 PM) webchick|scribe: Organize Drupal metups, Drupal CXO days
(12:06:31 PM) webchick|scribe: I represent "normal guy" in the equation
(12:06:44 PM) webchick|scribe: A lot of focus on commercial world, think there needs to be more emphasis on the other
(12:06:50 PM) webchick|scribe: PLEASE TALK SLOWER :D
(12:06:54 PM) KatteKrab: lol
(12:06:59 PM) stephvhosny: S-L-O-W
(12:07:10 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo"
(12:07:17 PM) webchick|scribe: Everyoe on call try and help angie if she misses things
(12:07:18 PM) stevepurkiss: sorry angie, nerves!
(12:07:20 PM) webchick|scribe: Next we have todd
(12:07:22 PM) webchick|scribe: TOdd:
(12:07:28 PM) webchick|scribe: Hi, I'm todd tomilison
(12:07:34 PM) webchick|scribe: some of you know me as author of PDD on Apress
(12:07:38 PM) webchick|scribe: Also VP of ServiLogic corpoation
(12:07:42 PM) webchick|scribe: Been involved in Drupal for 6.5 years
(12:07:46 PM) webchick|scribe: Public sector, private sector
(12:07:53 PM) webchick|scribe: My career has been focused globally
(12:07:55 PM) nedjo: can i have a second volunteer for scribing?
(12:08:03 PM) webchick|scribe: I bring to the table working last 25 years globally, not just NA but also around world
(12:08:03 PM) greggles: nedjo: I can
(12:08:04 PM) webchick|scribe: Also educator
(12:08:06 PM) webchick|scribe: sr. professor
(12:08:13 PM) webchick|scribe: working with Drupal since drupal 3!
(12:08:17 PM) nedjo: who can alternate with angie?
(12:08:21 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo:
(12:08:23 PM) webchick|scribe: Thank you!
(12:08:26 PM) webchick|scribe: Next up: mrconnerton
(12:08:28 PM) webchick|scribe: Matt:
(12:08:32 PM) webchick|scribe: Hi, I'm Matthew Connerton
(12:08:35 PM) webchick|scribe: From Ahseville NC
(12:08:37 PM) greggles: nedjo: I can alternate, just let me know when
(12:08:38 PM) webchick|scribe: Started UG 3 years ago
(12:08:44 PM) webchick|scribe: Since then had a great increase in camps
(12:08:48 PM) webchick|scribe: I'm a preacher in Drupal
(12:08:58 PM) webchick|scribe: Lots of events, heading out to different US destinations, different countries
(12:08:59 PM) nedjo: k, webchick, pass to greggles when you want a break
(12:09:06 PM) webchick|scribe: Small team that works on projects
(12:09:08 PM) webchick|scribe: (missed it)
(12:09:14 PM) webchick|scribe: Focus on the DA is educating more people in Drupal
(12:09:18 PM) webchick|scribe: reaching out to more peope in the Drupal community
(12:09:25 PM) webchick|scribe: other communites such as the PHP community
(12:09:29 PM) webchick|scribe: lots of great minds to tap into
(12:09:32 PM) webchick|scribe: that's what I'm about!
(12:09:33 PM) webchick|scribe: greggles: tag!
(12:09:39 PM) greggles: KatteKrab speaking:
(12:09:44 PM) greggles: calling from the future at 4AM on friday morning
(12:09:48 PM) stephvhosny: hello from the past
(12:09:50 PM) greggles: donna benjamin from melbourne, AUS
(12:09:59 PM) greggles: run own business, using it for 5 years, Drupal is awesome
(12:10:09 PM) greggles: keen to see DA engage more effectively with the world and not just NA/Europe
(12:10:11 PM) mrconnerton: missed: I also work with larger agencies on some enterprise level projects so I have experience across the board there.
(12:10:18 PM) webchick|scribe: mrconnerton: thanks. so sorry!
(12:10:21 PM) greggles: stand up for the little wickers(
), hobbiests, less corporate
(12:10:26 PM) mrconnerton: lol
(12:10:27 PM) stephvhosny: little voices
(12:10:34 PM) greggles: nedjo: nick up next
(12:10:46 PM) greggles: nick vidal from Brazil - part of the community for 5 years - mostly in Latin American community
(12:10:59 PM) greggles: organized events such as drupal summit latino which have peeople from several countries in LA coming
(12:11:06 PM) KatteKrab: oh yeah - I forgot to say I just helped run drupal downunder in Melbourne a couple of weeks back
(12:11:11 PM) greggles: also main organizer of Drupalcamp Foz where Dries went to brazil for first time
(12:11:23 PM) greggles: nick launched a magazine called (something) with thousands of copies distributed
(12:11:34 PM) webchick|scribe: greggles: just say "tag" when you need a break. :) I'm good to go again.
(12:11:38 PM) greggles: wants to promote Drupal with events and magazines and other things
(12:11:40 PM) nickvidal: Libre Magazine
(12:11:40 PM) greggles: webchick|scribe: tag
(12:11:48 PM) webchick|scribe: Hi this is Jingshengwan calling from China
(12:11:51 PM) webchick|scribe: I run a Drupal shop in Shanghai
(12:11:56 PM) webchick|scribe: I have 4 years of experience in Drupal
(12:12:03 PM) webchick|scribe: Also experience in economics, legal matters
(12:12:06 PM) webchick|scribe: I want to help the DA with 3 things
(12:12:15 PM) webchick|scribe: 1. Cultivate asian development community
(12:12:22 PM) webchick|scribe: 2. popularize Drupal as a solution
(12:12:25 PM) webchick|scribe: 3. DrpalCon in Asia
(12:12:27 PM) webchick|scribe: Steph:
(12:12:31 PM) webchick|scribe: Hi I'm stephanie
(12:12:35 PM) webchick|scribe: i'm the bus. dev manager at ixis
(12:12:41 PM) webchick|scribe: uk-based drupal development/hosting agency
(12:12:46 PM) webchick|scribe: started working with Drupal in 2006
(12:12:53 PM) webchick|scribe: promote benefits of Drupal
(12:12:59 PM) webchick|scribe: See benefits of community working together
(12:13:02 PM) webchick|scribe: one clear agenda, one strong voice
(12:13:07 PM) webchick|scribe: really want to harness community power
(12:13:14 PM) webchick|scribe: with existing developers, new developers, clients, stakeholders
(12:13:18 PM) webchick|scribe: to grow drupal and community
(12:13:29 PM) webchick|scribe: particularly hoping to sell drupal to diverse grouos, new audences, women…
(12:13:36 PM) webchick|scribe: I bring markeitng/fundraising experience to board
(12:13:40 PM) webchick|scribe: previous board experience
(12:13:50 PM) webchick|scribe: Opening the floor to Rodney the Cat
(12:13:54 PM) RodneyTheCat: MEROW?
(12:13:57 PM) ***RodneyTheCat runs away
(12:14:01 PM) webchick|scribe: So we do not disctriminate on species basis
(12:14:07 PM) Crell: RodneyTheCat++
(12:14:08 PM) webchick|scribe: RodneyTheCat: says "MEROW" ;)
(12:14:11 PM) webchick|scribe: nedjo
(12:14:16 PM) webchick|scribe: Ok we have a brief sense of who everyone is
(12:14:22 PM) webchick|scribe: Welcome you, pleased/excuted to be part of this process
(12:14:22 PM) stephvhosny: good cat
(12:14:31 PM) webchick|scribe: and to have so many interesting, experienced candidates come forward
(12:14:34 PM) webchick|scribe: open floor now to questions
(12:14:39 PM) stephvhosny: who is being executed?
(12:14:40 PM) tsvenson: YesWeCat!
(12:14:43 PM) webchick|scribe: please type questions in IRC with "Q:" in front
(12:14:48 PM) KatteKrab: tsvenson: heh
(12:14:50 PM) webchick|scribe: so that it's easy to pick themout
(12:14:54 PM) jhodgdon: Q: Whose cat is it?
(12:14:57 PM) webchick|scribe: will choose questions in order they're represented
(12:15:05 PM) jhodgdon: :)
(12:15:05 PM) webchick|scribe: try to get as many questions as we can
(12:15:11 PM) Slurpee: How many candidates have been to Drupal events outside of their own continent? And can you speak more than 1 language fluently?
(12:15:13 PM) webchick|scribe: will look for 2-3 responses from candidates
(12:15:13 PM) jhodgdon: (that was not a serious question)
(12:15:29 PM) Slurpee: Q:How many candidates have been to Drupal events outside of their own continent? And can you speak more than 1 language fluently?
(12:15:33 PM) webchick|scribe: nedjo: ^^ Slurpee
(12:15:33 PM) KatteKrab: There are heaps more people on this call / channel this time round.
(12:15:38 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo reading Slurpee's question
(12:15:46 PM) KatteKrab: hand
(12:15:47 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:15:48 PM) skyred: hand
(12:15:48 PM) stevepurkiss: hand
(12:15:51 PM) webchick|scribe: Looking for hands from candidates
(12:15:55 PM) KatteKrab: agreed
(12:16:00 PM) webchick|scribe: This one is something that can be answered in IRC
(12:16:03 PM) toddtomlinson: A: I have only been to N/America DrupalCon -- and I speak French and PHP
(12:16:07 PM) webchick|scribe: if you could answer in IRC, we'll move onto next question
(12:16:12 PM) webchick|scribe: (other questions?)
(12:16:14 PM) Crell: Q: Several of you listed things yo want to do or accomplish. The DA, however, has shifted from a staff board to a policy board, so board members are not directly doing anything, but managing, strategizing, coordinating, etc. Those of you who want to "do", isn't the board the wrong place for what you're describing?
(12:16:15 PM) rfay: Q: In 30 seconds or less, what are the roles of the DA and what are not the roles?
(12:16:22 PM) webchick|scribe: (reading Crell's question)
(12:16:23 PM) stephvhosny: I'm new to Drupal events - hoping to go to more this year. I speak some french and arabic and also client speak
(12:16:28 PM) KatteKrab: I have been to drupalcon sanfrancisco and london - I can't speak another language fluently... but I speak a little bit of Dutch.
(12:16:39 PM) skyred: A: I have been America and Asia. and I can speak English and Chinese fluently
(12:16:39 PM) stevepurkiss: Been to 3 drupalcons now, copenhagen, chicago, london. Languages - I always got on better with computer languages so know many of those ;)
(12:16:39 PM) skyred: Slurpee, ^^
(12:16:47 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:16:53 PM) webchick|scribe: looking for hands for Crell's questrion
(12:16:57 PM) webchick|scribe: will take the first 3
(12:16:59 PM) nickvidal: Only outside of my country (from brazil to peru). i speak a bit of spanish and french (as well as english and portuguese).
(12:16:59 PM) KatteKrab: hand
(12:17:00 PM) webchick|scribe: go ahead steph
(12:17:01 PM) webchick|scribe: Steph:
(12:17:11 PM) stevepurkiss: hand
(12:17:12 PM) webchick|scribe: I really support the existing strategy
(12:17:12 PM) mrconnerton: hand (Crell)
(12:17:15 PM) webchick|scribe: rather than have a personal agenda
(12:17:22 PM) webchick|scribe: it's more about objectives you estbalished in 2012/late 2011
(12:17:26 PM) webchick|scribe: i don't think anyone has personal agenda
(12:17:28 PM) webchick|scribe: to take it over
(12:17:39 PM) skyred: hand
(12:17:40 PM) webchick|scribe: Next hand: KatteKrab
(12:17:42 PM) webchick|scribe: Donna:
(12:17:44 PM) webchick|scribe: Good question crell
(12:17:48 PM) webchick|scribe: This is exactly why I want to get involved
(12:17:56 PM) webchick|scribe: and be a voice for misrepresented parts of the Drupal community
(12:17:56 PM) webchick|scribe: because
(12:18:04 PM) webchick|scribe: the policy often gets driven without those things being considered
(12:18:19 PM) webchick|scribe: if you're not loud and you don't put your voice in when the policies being formed, much hrader to move in that direction afterwards
(12:18:21 PM) nedjo: steve purkiss next. other candidates: pls post responses in text
(12:18:26 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve:
(12:18:35 PM) webchick|scribe: I totally agree with what's been said
(12:18:40 PM) webchick|scribe: we need to represent what everyone's saying already
(12:18:48 PM) webchick|scribe: those who can actually speak out are getting done at the moment
(12:18:51 PM) webchick|scribe: but lots of stuff that isn't
(12:18:53 PM) webchick|scribe: so kind f join in the dots
(12:19:00 PM) webchick|scribe: I got o lots of events, seeing a lot of convesations over and over
(12:19:06 PM) webchick|scribe: want to see them addressed
(12:19:06 PM) toddtomlinson: A: Having been a board member of several private companies and non-profits -- I see the role of the board as (a) setting the strategy for the organization (b) governance -- setting the policies for the organization and executing the governance (c) being a voice to the community. We can impact the community through our strategic direction
(12:19:09 PM) webchick|scribe: Next Q
(12:19:13 PM) webchick|scribe: (reading rfay's question)
(12:19:18 PM) webchick|scribe: Looking for hands
(12:19:19 PM) KatteKrab: correction - not "misrepresented" but "underrepresented"
(12:19:27 PM) webchick|scribe: rfay
(12:19:27 PM) webchick|scribe: 9:16
(12:19:27 PM) webchick|scribe: Q: In 30 seconds or less, what are the roles of the DA and what are not the roles?
(12:19:29 PM) webchick|scribe: KatteKrab: soryr :(
(12:19:30 PM) stevepurkiss: hand
(12:19:32 PM) KatteKrab: sorry - I'm not super coherent.
(12:19:33 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:19:36 PM) KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: s'ok :)
(12:19:40 PM) toddtomlinson: A: See my answer above to Randy's question
(12:19:41 PM) webchick|scribe: (I also can't hear over my WILDLY TYPING FINGERS)
(12:19:46 PM) Crell: KatteKrab: Such happens at 4 am. :-)
(12:19:48 PM) webchick|scribe: actually gregglestag?
(12:19:49 PM) KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: lol
(12:19:51 PM) webchick|scribe: greggles: tag?
(12:20:11 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve: for me it's all about community side of things
(12:20:12 PM) KatteKrab: Crell: yeah - I feel like I should not say anything at all in case I incriminate myself through sleepiness ;)
(12:20:12 PM) webchick|scribe: not the code
(12:20:16 PM) webchick|scribe: i haven't put modules back
(12:20:18 PM) webchick|scribe: I haven't needed any
(12:20:23 PM) greggles: webchick|scribe: next answer I'm on it
(12:20:24 PM) webchick|scribe: I can help more with things that aren't on the code side of thing
(12:20:25 PM) skyred: A: I have been promoting Drupal in Asia on daily basis. I want to come on board to influence the decision making towards events/grant/d.o documentation, etc. and I want to help with DrupalCon Asia
(12:20:29 PM) skyred: Crell, ^^
(12:20:29 PM) webchick|scribe: I think mission clearly stated on the DA page about that
(12:20:31 PM) mrconnerton: Crell A: I think that is a great question because for example getting a Con in another country isn't going to just take a single person on the board doing something. It's going to take people on the board working with that local community and backing them with DA resources to make it happen. The ground work will happen locally, but the DA can lend theri support and expertise. I think the DA needs to come up with some new plans and a larger infrastructure to support those areas
(12:21:05 PM) mrconnerton: I see this position as a way to come up with plans and hand those plans and resources off to local teams.
(12:21:06 PM) greggles: steph: the role is to be supportive/encouraging and crossing boundaries to promote what the community can do
(12:21:10 PM) toddtomlinson: hand
(12:21:17 PM) greggles: our role in the DA is not to set the agenda, it's to amplify existing voices
(12:21:29 PM) nickvidal: A: The role of DA should be to act as catalyst, identifying emerging initiatives and trowing all its weight in to make it spread faster.
(12:21:32 PM) greggles: to let everyone have an opportunity to get involved regardless of where you come from
(12:21:37 PM) KatteKrab: agree with stephvhosny - DA can amplify work of local communities
(12:21:42 PM) toddtomlinson: hand hand
(12:21:45 PM) toddtomlinson: claps hand
(12:21:48 PM) webchick|scribe: lol
(12:21:51 PM) KatteKrab: and also support and give credibility to them!
(12:22:18 PM) webchick|scribe: toddtomlinson: I have board experience
(12:22:18 PM) greggles: todd: I've been on several boards for private companies and non-profits. there are 2 critical board functions: set strategic direction and set governance (policies and procedures for folks in the organization)
(12:22:20 PM) nedjo: more questions?
(12:22:23 PM) greggles: webchick|scribe: still on it ;)
(12:22:23 PM) webchick|scribe: Oh whew
(12:22:28 PM) skyred: A: I don't need to repeat this https://association.drupal.org/about
(12:22:30 PM) skyred: webchick|scribe, ^^
(12:22:45 PM) KatteKrab: skyred: :)
(12:22:47 PM) greggles: todd says: a 3rd activity that boards do is help marshall resources for the org - you carry some weight b/c of your title, so if the community needs help we can bring resources to bear
(12:22:47 PM) KatteKrab: skyred++
(12:22:49 PM) Crell: Q: Several candidates said they want to better represent or be a voice for "small shops" and independents. In what way does the DA currently not adequately serve small shops, and what would a better service for small players mean in practice? Be as specific as possible.
(12:22:58 PM) webchick|scribe: greggles: let me know when you need a tag back
(12:23:02 PM) greggles: will do
(12:23:12 PM) greggles: nedjo: reading Crell's question
(12:23:30 PM) greggles: inviting hands
(12:23:35 PM) greggles: hands across irc
(12:23:37 PM) KatteKrab: hand
(12:23:42 PM) tsvenson: Q: When do you think the first Asian DrupalCon should be held? Also, should that mean 3 cons/year or should they alternate with 2/year?
(12:23:43 PM) nickvidal: hand
(12:23:44 PM) mrconnerton: hand
(12:23:54 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:23:55 PM) stevepurkiss: hanf whenever - I know I've spoken before so no rush
(12:24:06 PM) skyred: hand
(12:24:47 PM) greggles: donna benjamin: I don't know that the DA is failing small shops, I just don't see those voices represented in the current makeup of the board. most are from NA and large organizations so it's not necessarily that there's a huge gap, but there is potentially a huge gap. I have a sense that this is a problem more than specific criticisms.
(12:25:34 PM) KatteKrab: not just small drupal shops... but people using drupal without a commercial interest in it...
(12:25:42 PM) KatteKrab: hobbyists, non-profits, amateurs
(12:25:42 PM) greggles: nickvidal: I believe the DA is doing a good job trying to connect with big co's and promote Drupal. However, it does leave out the small Drupal shops, because of so much focus. They have to share and focus on small shops. Not only promoting big companies but also small shops.
(12:25:46 PM) KatteKrab: tinkerers
(12:25:48 PM) KatteKrab: students
(12:26:50 PM) greggles: mrconnerton: I don't know that the DA is not serving them, but it's more about brining in a new perspective. Pretty sure the DA is large organizations been in there for a while. While the perspective of a developer who has worked with small shops, non profits.
(12:26:50 PM) greggles: (you're good on speed ;)
(12:27:00 PM) greggles: mrconnerton: I believe that having that different perspective will help. Large agencies sponsor big modules where the needs of the smallers are different. I'll elaborate in irc.
(12:27:07 PM) greggles: webchick|scribe: tag after steph
(12:27:31 PM) greggles: stephvhosny: working with smaller orgs and 1 man/woman bands - any access to learning and support is always great for small shops. (can't quite hear)
(12:27:32 PM) webchick|scribe: roger that
(12:27:39 PM) greggles: stephvhosny: speak up?
(12:27:50 PM) greggles: ....getting support and additional resources could be a way forward.
(12:27:51 PM) webchick|scribe: Last is skyred on this one
(12:27:54 PM) webchick|scribe: and then we'll move on
(12:27:56 PM) stephvhosny: A: better access to funding opportunities, learning and support to run their own events. "Shadowing" or mentoring opportunities
(12:28:05 PM) greggles: thanks stephvhosny
(12:28:12 PM) webchick|scribe: nedjo: reading Asian DrupalCon question
(12:28:19 PM) webchick|scribe: Jingshen:
(12:28:20 PM) webchick|scribe: Sure.
(12:28:28 PM) webchick|scribe: The disucssion of DC asia was started in 2010 in SF
(12:28:31 PM) nedjo: inviting hands on this question
(12:28:34 PM) webchick|scribe: The idea was Europe and Asia alternate every year
(12:28:40 PM) webchick|scribe: the popular proposal was Hong Kong and India
(12:28:49 PM) webchick|scribe: But we realized there will be a lot of work needed to be done before DrupalCon Asia is presentable
(12:28:53 PM) Slurpee: Drupalcon Asia should be in Sri Lanka!
(12:28:56 PM) webchick|scribe: Anyone else?
(12:28:59 PM) stevepurkiss: OK, my answer re smaller shops is we need more outreach - we have built a wonderful modular software but not a modular business model on top, I will elaborate more in a blog soon ;)
(12:29:12 PM) webchick|scribe: nedjo: We are about halfway through
(12:29:28 PM) webchick|scribe: Would like to see any suggestions from candidates/attendees if there's things in this emeting you want to get out of that you haven't gt yet
(12:29:32 PM) toddtomlinson: A: One area that I believe the board can help support the smaller groups/individuals through education - a) helping local universities, colleges, trade schools embrace and teach Drupal, b) providing an educational roadmap that links resources in the community along the learning continuum, c) fostering small communities - providing mechanisms for individuals and small organizations to colla
(12:29:34 PM) toddtomlinson: borate on learning, doing, supporting Drupal
(12:29:36 PM) webchick|scribe: Please post suggestions on IRC
(12:29:40 PM) stephvhosny: concerned not everyone has participated - would have expected more q's on the site
(12:29:45 PM) webchick|scribe: to mix things up a little bit, going to invite questions from candidates
(12:29:46 PM) jredding_: hand
(12:29:49 PM) mrconnerton: Crells last question: As far as infrastructure there are projects that have been talked about that are not getting done because I just don't think people know they exist or know if they can get invovled with em. for example on d.o having ratings and comments for projects. I believe that was "specd" out and a "cost" was associated with it and I'm sure there are smaller shops that would be happy to contribute to taht.
(12:29:53 PM) webchick|scribe: what do you wonder about other people who are here particopating?
(12:30:11 PM) webchick|scribe: Going to turn it around so candidates can aks questions, and comminity can respond
(12:30:13 PM) nickvidal: agree with toddtomlinson: One area that I believe the board can help support the smaller groups/individuals through education
(12:30:14 PM) webchick|scribe: Furst, recognize jredding_
(12:30:17 PM) webchick|scribe: Jacob:
(12:30:25 PM) webchick|scribe: I had question I wanted to ask to the candidates but Crell also has question
(12:30:33 PM) mrconnerton: that was a bit odler
(12:30:35 PM) mrconnerton: older*
(12:30:40 PM) mrconnerton: yes
(12:30:42 PM) webchick|scribe: (confusion about responses :))
(12:30:42 PM) greggles: mrconnerton is answering an old question of crell's
(12:31:00 PM) digita| is now known as ana|ogue
(12:31:20 PM) webchick|scribe: Jacob had question for candidates, going to type in IRC
(12:31:21 PM) Crell: mrconnerton: Is that in relation to my "doer" question, or my "small shop" question? :-)
(12:31:33 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo going to withdraw suggestion to have candidates post questions
(12:31:35 PM) webchick|scribe: looking for new questions
(12:31:40 PM) webchick|scribe: Jacob go ahead
(12:31:41 PM) jredding_: In 30 seconds or less, what would you say is the most important skillset, expertise, or experience that a board member should bring to the Association.
(12:31:42 PM) webchick|scribe: Jacob:
(12:31:42 PM) mrconnerton: Crell: DA and small shops and how they can get more invoved
(12:31:47 PM) KatteKrab: on the DrupalCon asia thing... I was concerned about the idea of "drupalcon asia pacific" being "the rest of the world" except africa
(12:31:48 PM) webchick|scribe: (reading question)
(12:31:58 PM) Slurpee: KatteKrab, you have DDU :)
(12:32:04 PM) stevepurkiss: hand
(12:32:08 PM) webchick|scribe: question related to their network, their connections, their fundraising capability
(12:32:09 PM) KatteKrab: Slurpee: sure we do.
(12:32:11 PM) Crell: mrconnerton: OK, so that would mean reaching out to smaller shops to help work on d.o improvements?
(12:32:11 PM) webchick|scribe: what is most important to you?
(12:32:12 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve:
(12:32:19 PM) KatteKrab: Slurpee: but that's not a drupalcon
(12:32:24 PM) webchick|scribe: My first job 25 odd years ago was small computer shop dealing w/ small businesses
(12:32:25 PM) KatteKrab: Slurpee: and it has no input from the DA
(12:32:29 PM) nedjo: other candidates to respond to Jacob's question?
(12:32:30 PM) webchick|scribe: i respect people who start a business and work hard towards it
(12:32:30 PM) KatteKrab: nor should it.
(12:32:37 PM) webchick|scribe: some peope in paid employment don't have same kind of view
(12:32:47 PM) nickvidal: hand
(12:32:48 PM) KatteKrab: but asiapacific - contains 3 of the 5 most populous nations on earth
(12:32:48 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:32:49 PM) webchick|scribe: that was about 30 seconds. i messed that one up but wil answer in IRC ;)
(12:32:52 PM) webchick|scribe: Nick:
(12:32:54 PM) KatteKrab: india, china and indonesia
(12:32:58 PM) toddtomlinson: hand
(12:33:05 PM) webchick|scribe: One of the most important things is to hear the community
(12:33:06 PM) KatteKrab: all incredibly culturally and linguistically diverse
(12:33:07 PM) mrconnerton: Crell: Absolutely, have a central place where there are wanted d.o improvements but are stalled out because there isn't funding for it, etc. I know some smaller shops that would love to invest in that kinda thing.
(12:33:13 PM) webchick|scribe: you are on the top, you should be able to hear the discontents and the good ideas
(12:33:19 PM) Crell: mrconnerton: OK, thank you.
(12:33:26 PM) mrconnerton: Crell: Ratings and Comments on projects was my example but obviously there are more
(12:33:27 PM) webchick|scribe: show leadership, that you get this great idea, that it's on the bottom, and you bring it up and promote it
(12:33:28 PM) KatteKrab: trying to create a single event for these 2 continents... is going to be an enormous challenge.
(12:33:29 PM) webchick|scribe: make it better
(12:33:32 PM) webchick|scribe: Steph:
(12:33:37 PM) webchick|scribe: My previous experience in marketing/fundraising
(12:33:48 PM) webchick|scribe: key here is understanding of client requirements and community needs and how to bridge those two
(12:33:53 PM) webchick|scribe: that's the most important thing of the DA board
(12:33:58 PM) KatteKrab: hand
(12:34:01 PM) webchick|scribe: stephvhosny: ^^ please verify
(12:34:02 PM) webchick|scribe: Todd:
(12:34:05 PM) stephvhosny: marketing, fundraising, understanding of clients requirements, devs needs and how to bridge those.
(12:34:11 PM) webchick|scribe: As I mentioned before having many years of experience on other boards
(12:34:17 PM) webchick|scribe: is bringing decision, leaderhsip experience
(12:34:19 PM) webchick|scribe: also governance
(12:34:24 PM) webchick|scribe: I've been in the governance of several organizations
(12:34:28 PM) webchick|scribe: I'm out on the market, talking to clients every day
(12:34:32 PM) webchick|scribe: 24/7 about Drupal
(12:34:38 PM) webchick|scribe: I understand from market perspective what our clients are looking for
(12:34:49 PM) skyred: hand
(12:34:51 PM) webchick|scribe: and what a small shop - we're 7 people - need to support our efforts and our client's efforts
(12:34:51 PM) mrconnerton: A: ( jredding_ ) I think , especially for this position as a community at large member, is that a board member should be out in the community learning from them on all levels what they are looking for and then driving efforts in those directions
(12:34:52 PM) webchick|scribe: Donna:
(12:34:59 PM) webchick|scribe: one of the most important things is to bring a sense of collaboration
(12:35:03 PM) Crell: KatteKrab: Speak up! We can barely hear you!
(12:35:03 PM) webchick|scribe: and wilingness to work with the rest of the board
(12:35:07 PM) webchick|scribe: on important topics
(12:35:17 PM) greggles: yes, better
(12:35:19 PM) webchick|scribe: bring consensus
(12:35:30 PM) webchick|scribe: And to makr sure that we all bring our slightly diff perspectives
(12:35:35 PM) webchick|scribe: and put that on the table when we're making decisions
(12:35:43 PM) webchick|scribe: people think consensus is all happy families
(12:35:47 PM) webchick|scribe: but you only get there from many differnt perspectives
(12:35:51 PM) webchick|scribe: and figuring out what you can/can't agree on
(12:35:52 PM) webchick|scribe: Skyred:
(12:36:05 PM) webchick|scribe: Important skillset is community keadershup, legal, marketing, team wokr, international diversity
(12:36:08 PM) KatteKrab: skyred++
(12:36:18 PM) stephvhosny: leadership
(12:36:22 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Looking for more qustions
(12:36:32 PM) webchick|scribe: If you have a question of subset of candidares, that's ok too
(12:36:34 PM) KatteKrab: I have a question
(12:36:41 PM) webchick|scribe: will pause for a moment while Qs are queued up.
(12:36:42 PM) KatteKrab: Q: Infrastructure...
(12:36:42 PM) webchick|scribe: Donna:
(12:36:58 PM) webchick|scribe: Q: I have a question about infrastructure. I understand that we use resources of OSUOSL
(12:37:06 PM) webchick|scribe: and that we've got some peope within DA who are paid to help work on this stuff
(12:37:18 PM) webchick|scribe: but is anyone able to give outline of how our infra and nature of it?
(12:37:20 PM) webchick|scribe: greggles: tag?
(12:37:29 PM) greggles is now known as greggles|scribe
(12:37:35 PM) ***jredding_ greggles or I can take that question
(12:37:45 PM) webchick|scribe: oh!
(12:37:46 PM) webchick|scribe: jredding_: :)
(12:37:51 PM) ***jredding_ oh awesome.. webchick's got it.
(12:37:54 PM) webchick|scribe: hahahaha
(12:37:54 PM) stephvhosny: good question!
(12:37:55 PM) greggles|scribe: haha
(12:38:03 PM) carsonblack: Q: What are some (or one) way that DA can help the small user groups throughout the world better serve their local markets?
(12:38:32 PM) greggles|scribe: yes
(12:38:35 PM) stevepurkiss: hand re carsonblack
(12:39:18 PM) greggles|scribe: webchick: our servers are all at OSUOSL, primarily managed by a team of volunteers - there is an org chart "make drupal.org awesome org chart" you can see all the volunteers - there are 23-25 of them
(12:39:22 PM) KatteKrab: http://drupal.org/node/1293124
(12:39:26 PM) nedjo: webchick|scribe: pls wrap up in a few secs.
(12:39:46 PM) Crell: https://docs.google.com/a/palantir.net/drawings/d/15KUjaaoVfvCVBiEKwwi-D...
(12:39:49 PM) nickvidal: hand for carsonblack's question
(12:40:00 PM) greggles|scribe: webchick: the DA pays for hardware, like for the git migration. we also have paid contractors to work on specific features. we also employ (contract) neil drumm who is our general IT guy who helps with tweaks we need for fundraising and integrates patches from the community. when the community needs a feature he can integrate those patches in though he has a lot of hats he wears so sometimes that takes time
(12:40:20 PM) greggles|scribe: webchick: in 2012 one thing we might do is hire more staff to manage things that the community cannot do on a grassroots basis
(12:40:21 PM) jredding_: The Infrastructure team Org Chart: https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/15KUjaaoVfvCVBiEKwwi-DoJ7S36NCLTKANjj...
(12:40:25 PM) webchick|scribe: KatteKrab: did that help?
(12:40:32 PM) KatteKrab: webchick|scribe: yes! thank you :)
(12:40:34 PM) webchick|scribe: :)
(12:40:35 PM) greggles|scribe: nedjo: reading carsonblack's question
(12:41:31 PM) greggles|scribe: stevepurkiss says: you can help make connections between people and point to community resources
(12:41:33 PM) webchick|scribe: greggles|scribe: if you need me to tag back in let me know
(12:42:11 PM) greggles|scribe: nick says: 1) drupal guilds is very interesting idea and maybe the DA could work on that 2) ambassadors initiative which is outlined by the DA and could help the local community
(12:42:17 PM) greggles|scribe: webchick|scribe: sure, your turn
(12:42:18 PM) toddtomlinson: A: I believe the DA can enable smaller organizations by marshaling resources - providing a) educational materials, b) marketing materials, c) connections to organizations within their communities, etc.
(12:42:19 PM) greggles|scribe is now known as greggles
(12:42:21 PM) webchick|scribe: on it!
(12:42:23 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:42:29 PM) webchick|scribe: Step:
(12:42:31 PM) greggles: nickvidal: could you provide a link to the ambassadors program? I'm not familiar with that
(12:42:38 PM) webchick|scribe: making recference back to my earlier answer about fundraising opportunities
(12:42:44 PM) webchick|scribe: or having opportunity to shine along with large orgs
(12:42:54 PM) stevepurkiss: hand re funds
(12:42:55 PM) webchick|scribe: and also as they manage to support their own groups and organizations
(12:42:57 PM) nickvidal: greggles, sure just a sec
(12:43:02 PM) webchick|scribe: at events
(12:43:09 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve:
(12:43:14 PM) webchick|scribe: Yeah, regards to funding
(12:43:18 PM) webchick|scribe: as far as I can see funds are out there
(12:43:23 PM) webchick|scribe: they don't know ehere and how to channel it
(12:43:26 PM) webchick|scribe: this is a role the DA can and should be doing
(12:43:33 PM) webchick|scribe: not just in terms of what's already out there that people want to use
(12:43:43 PM) webchick|scribe: at the moment it looks like there's a separate marketing company set up to do this
(12:43:44 PM) skyred: carsonblack, another thing that DA can improve for international groups is the localization support. Right, the groups.drupal.org only supports handful languages. More can be added
(12:43:50 PM) webchick|scribe: i think we need to do integrated marketing/comm so we speak from one voice
(12:43:51 PM) toddtomlinson: A: also help them pull in people by providing access to key Drupal experts (e.g., I went to the Bellingham Washington DUG and spoke - using PDD as the platform we drew several new people to the group)
(12:44:02 PM) webchick|scribe: nedjo: More questions?
(12:44:15 PM) nickvidal: greggles: Drupal "Ambassador" Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/node/198728
(12:44:16 PM) toddtomlinson: crickets
(12:44:20 PM) webchick|scribe: question from ???
(12:44:22 PM) KatteKrab: toddtomlinson: ;)
(12:44:24 PM) greggles: jredding
(12:44:26 PM) webchick|scribe: When the DA board member is out n the community
(12:44:31 PM) webchick|scribe: how would that member represent themselvs in the community?
(12:44:36 PM) webchick|scribe: would they have a title of board member and use that?
(12:44:46 PM) webchick|scribe: or how would they represent themselves in the community when you are a board member?
(12:44:50 PM) webchick|scribe: ^^ from Jacob
(12:44:50 PM) nickvidal: Drupal Guilds Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/guilds
(12:44:54 PM) webchick|scribe: nedjo: looking for hands
(12:44:58 PM) KatteKrab: actually - I have no idea jredding_
(12:45:02 PM) mrconnerton: hand
(12:45:02 PM) stephvhosny: hand
(12:45:02 PM) rcross: i'm a bit late, but i'm here
(12:45:10 PM) KatteKrab: hey rcross
(12:45:17 PM) skyred: hand
(12:45:21 PM) jredding_: KatteKrab: No a problem.
(12:45:27 PM) webchick|scribe: Jacob repeating question
(12:45:37 PM) webchick|scribe: How should board members reresent themselves in the community?
(12:45:39 PM) webchick|scribe: Matthew:
(12:45:43 PM) KatteKrab: jredding_: interesting... like... wearing a badge?
(12:45:57 PM) webchick|scribe: I guess what I would do is being a community at-large member at events
(12:46:03 PM) webchick|scribe: I'm going to tell people yeah, I'm a board member
(12:46:11 PM) webchick|scribe: and i'd want to talk to people at afterparties
(12:46:14 PM) webchick|scribe: even more than I do now
(12:46:19 PM) webchick|scribe: get feedback from them on what they like, what they don't like
(12:46:23 PM) webchick|scribe: take that feedback bck to the board
(12:46:26 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Thanks
(12:46:26 PM) Crell: Q: The DA is officially banned from "directing the development of Drupal". What does that mean to you? Are there ways the DA could "support" development without "directing" development? What would you want to do in that regard? Again, be specific as possible.
(12:46:32 PM) webchick|scribe: Taking a moment to introduce "rcross"
(12:46:41 PM) webchick|scribe: For other candidates, please respond in IRC for that question
(12:46:43 PM) tsvenson: Question: Should the DA take a more proactive role about the d.o infrastructure and its improvement needs. Especially in regards to for example content management tools for doumentation and giving better cred/visibility to all those that puts in amazing work that is not project/code related? If so how and what is needed?
(12:46:53 PM) webchick|scribe: Earlier we had opportunity for candidates to introduce thsemelves
(12:46:57 PM) webchick|scribe: please do that, ryan
(12:46:59 PM) webchick|scribe: Ryan:
(12:47:05 PM) toddtomlinson: A: I believe we should be "tagged" as board members, and we should be highly visible to as many events and organizations as we can be. We should be the "ears" of the organization - attentively listening to the community, distilling what we hear, and bringing that information back to the board as input into the strategy formulation process.
(12:47:10 PM) webchick|scribe: I got into drupal about 6 yrs ago
(12:47:12 PM) webchick|scribe: been working with it since
(12:47:15 PM) stephvhosny: A: community member with an opportunity to contribute and feedback from community
(12:47:17 PM) KatteKrab: Answering Crell: I like the idea of funding sprints... not directing what happens at them, but helping them happen.
(12:47:20 PM) webchick|scribe: really started some of the community in sydeny aus
(12:47:23 PM) webchick|scribe: last 4.5 − 5 years
(12:47:32 PM) webchick|scribe: really looking forward to bringing global perspective
(12:47:37 PM) webchick|scribe: voicing concerns from people not already on board
(12:47:48 PM) webchick|scribe: people on board jave very strong north america focus
(12:47:56 PM) KatteKrab: I think putting effort into the tools the project relies on is borderline... but it's something that needs doing....
(12:48:02 PM) webchick|scribe: also bring people not in drupal community into the drupal community
(12:48:07 PM) webchick|scribe: training, general outreach
(12:48:11 PM) webchick|scribe: found working with events here
(12:48:17 PM) webchick|scribe: people who aren't aware of community
(12:48:20 PM) skyred: A: I don't think board of directors should identify themselve actively among community; if the community ask, then they can explain what they do or what DA does. Besides that, there is no much need for them to signal the community what position they have at D.A.
(12:48:22 PM) webchick|scribe: can get really involved quickly if they have the right outrteach
(12:48:22 PM) stephvhosny: A; Crell Support opportunities, tapping into funding streams, encouraging development and involvement
(12:48:23 PM) skyred: jredding_, ^^
(12:48:25 PM) webchick|scribe: hoping to bring that to the board
(12:48:35 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Thank you, a couple of more questions. probabnly all we'll have time for
(12:48:38 PM) KatteKrab: rcross: you sound way more coherent than me :)
(12:48:41 PM) mrconnerton: A: re Crell - I don't think the DA should be supporting any specific part of drupal or drupal contribute as far as its development. That's the job of the community and brings up to much COI when you have a limit number of people saying "this is what we are going to do now". I tihnk the way the DA supports development is providing a good infustructure and make it as EASY as possible to develop, via git, documentation, etc
(12:48:43 PM) webchick|scribe: Here's our next question:
(12:48:52 PM) Crell: stephvhosny: Doesn't funding imply directing by selectively funding certain things and not others?
(12:49:07 PM) webchick|scribe: The DA is officially banned from "directing development of Drupal".. what does this mean to you? Are there ways that the DA can "support" the project without "Directing" it?
(12:49:11 PM) webchick|scribe: etc. (crell's question)
(12:49:19 PM) webchick|scribe: Ryan, go first since you've had less participation so far
(12:49:21 PM) webchick|scribe: Ryan:
(12:49:24 PM) webchick|scribe: Thanks nedjo
(12:49:34 PM) webchick|scribe: crell posed a similar question ealrier about what the DA could do that the community couldn't do
(12:49:43 PM) webchick|scribe: I think one of the ways that the DA could support the project without directing it would be to provide tools
(12:49:45 PM) webchick|scribe: and infrastructure
(12:49:45 PM) nedjo: looking for one or two more hands then the rest respond in IRC
(12:49:47 PM) webchick|scribe: is one of the biggest ways
(12:49:50 PM) webchick|scribe: the DA can help
(12:49:50 PM) rfay: With the pursestrings go the power
(12:49:54 PM) webchick|scribe: the {"Great Git Migration"
(12:49:59 PM) webchick|scribe: the testing infrastructure
(12:50:08 PM) webchick|scribe: more tools to support contrib taking advantage of that testing infra
(12:50:08 PM) stephvhosny: not if providing access and highlightly funding streams for groups to access themselves ie. not selecting or choosing who gets £ or $
(12:50:14 PM) webchick|scribe: these are things 'd like to champion within the DA
(12:50:15 PM) stevepurkiss: hand
(12:50:20 PM) toddtomlinson: A: I believe we are the ears of the community - and the collection point for feedback that we hear from the community, that can be fed into those who are responsible for Drupal.
(12:50:22 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve:
(12:50:31 PM) webchick|scribe: From my POV I think we should eating our own dogfood more
(12:50:37 PM) ***RodneyTheCat hisses at dog food
(12:50:39 PM) webchick|scribe: using Drupal for a lot more things and connect with network that's already out there
(12:50:46 PM) webchick|scribe: same whether you're in small company or large company
(12:50:51 PM) webchick|scribe: many years ago charged with creating intranet
(12:50:56 PM) webchick|scribe: peope wouldn't use it
(12:50:57 PM) skyred: hand
(12:50:58 PM) webchick|scribe: so we made it very expensive
(12:51:02 PM) webchick|scribe: key thing to make people start coneting
(12:51:07 PM) webchick|scribe: Skyred:
(12:51:10 PM) stephvhosny: made people put thier expenses through it
(12:51:14 PM) stephvhosny: not expensive!
(12:51:18 PM) KatteKrab: no webchick|scribe - made people put their expenses through it
(12:51:24 PM) webchick|scribe: Demand of support from the community continues
(12:51:28 PM) nickvidal: A: I agree with banning the "directing the development of Drupal". The best way the DA could help is by providing the infrastructure and tools to support the development and also the promotion of contributions. For example: Git migration, and the Prairie Initiative: http://groups.drupal.org/prairie-initiative
(12:51:28 PM) webchick|scribe: be open and liberal
(12:51:34 PM) webchick|scribe: make $ amount very transparent
(12:51:38 PM) webchick|scribe: let community decide what features they want most
(12:51:41 PM) webchick|scribe: let community make the decision
(12:51:45 PM) webchick|scribe: DA just have money support
(12:51:54 PM) webchick|scribe: stevepurkiss: GEEZ. SO SORRY. :(
(12:51:59 PM) webchick|scribe: that was a terrible typo
(12:52:10 PM) webchick|scribe: Ruyan
(12:52:16 PM) webchick|scribe: One other thing I wanted to add to that question
(12:52:27 PM) webchick|scribe: the training, documentation, support are things the DA could do to support without directing development
(12:52:31 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo: Turning to wrap-up round
(12:52:33 PM) stephvhosny: ooh wrap up round
(12:52:42 PM) webchick|scribe: each candidate take moment to reflect on what you haven't had a chance to say, what you want to leave us with
(12:52:44 PM) webchick|scribe: 1 minute each
(12:52:46 PM) webchick|scribe: all candidates type hand
(12:53:01 PM) webchick|scribe: Steph:
(12:53:03 PM) webchick|scribe: Covered most things
(12:53:07 PM) KatteKrab: hand
(12:53:07 PM) webchick|scribe: between last night and today
(12:53:07 PM) mrconnerton: hand
(12:53:13 PM) webchick|scribe: echo that the enthusiasm of the candidates is exceptional
(12:53:16 PM) webchick|scribe: positive thing to see
(12:53:22 PM) webchick|scribe: that people care so much about taking time to get involved
(12:53:24 PM) ***rcross hand
(12:53:30 PM) nickvidal: hand
(12:53:35 PM) webchick|scribe: (missed it :()
(12:53:37 PM) stevepurkiss: webchick|scribe: missed it… I forgive you ;)
(12:53:40 PM) webchick|scribe: Donna:
(12:53:44 PM) webchick|scribe: I think this is fantastic
(12:53:49 PM) webchick|scribe: it's the first tim ethe DA has run electiosn
(12:53:56 PM) webchick|scribe: it's the beginning of a new chapter in terms of how org is structured
(12:53:59 PM) webchick|scribe: a lot of work to do
(12:54:04 PM) webchick|scribe: in the future of consolidating the work that's been done
(12:54:11 PM) webchick|scribe: and becoming more open/transparent organizatio
(12:54:18 PM) webchick|scribe: i'd love to be part of seeing that happen and working for community
(12:54:19 PM) stevepurkiss: webchick|scribe: oic, LOL ;)
(12:54:22 PM) webchick|scribe: by being on the board
(12:54:23 PM) stephvhosny: well done KatteKrab
(12:54:26 PM) webchick|scribe: Matthrew:
(12:54:29 PM) webchick|scribe: As other two have said, really exciting!
(12:54:32 PM) webchick|scribe: thrilled to be a part of it
(12:54:40 PM) webchick|scribe: most interested is the community part of it
(12:54:45 PM) skyred: hand
(12:54:45 PM) toddtomlinson: hand
(12:54:46 PM) webchick|scribe: and how we can pull in the ideas of the community as a whole
(12:54:52 PM) webchick|scribe: and in turn support those ideas and those communities
(12:54:53 PM) webchick|scribe: Ryan:
(12:54:56 PM) KatteKrab: thanks stephvhosny :) I really don't know if I'm making sense at all.
(12:55:01 PM) webchick|scribe: Echo a lot of things from other candidates
(12:55:03 PM) webchick|scribe: I'm really excited
(12:55:10 PM) webchick|scribe: most excited about nominees that are part of thos.
(12:55:11 PM) KatteKrab: rcross++
(12:55:16 PM) stephvhosny: beautifully articulate for 4am :) KatteKrab
(12:55:19 PM) KatteKrab: nominees are all awesome.
(12:55:21 PM) webchick|scribe: I'm most passionate about bringing global perspective to Da
(12:55:27 PM) webchick|scribe: great to see others looking to provide this as well
(12:55:29 PM) davereid is now known as davereid|lunch
(12:55:31 PM) stevepurkiss: hand
(12:55:35 PM) webchick|scribe: really looking forward to either myself or others on the board being able to provide this
(12:55:37 PM) tsvenson: nominees++
(12:55:41 PM) KatteKrab: even if not elected, reckon DA should find a way to co-opt them onto other committees
(12:55:41 PM) webchick|scribe: looking fotward to championing this stuff
(12:55:45 PM) webchick|scribe: and representing the communinty
(12:55:49 PM) webchick|scribe: Nick:
(12:55:55 PM) webchick|scribe: The DA has gone through a lot of changes
(12:55:59 PM) webchick|scribe: esp. this last year
(12:56:04 PM) webchick|scribe: we can see that they are willing to hear more about the community
(12:56:10 PM) webchick|scribe: and open up selves and become more transparent
(12:56:11 PM) jredding_: hand
(12:56:13 PM) webchick|scribe: this is really exciting
(12:56:15 PM) webchick|scribe: and really appeciate this
(12:56:17 PM) webchick|scribe: and want to help them
(12:56:21 PM) webchick|scribe: create this connection with commnith
(12:56:27 PM) webchick|scribe: open and transparency
(12:56:34 PM) webchick|scribe: thank the DA and whole community for this
(12:56:35 PM) webchick|scribe: Tiodd:
(12:56:45 PM) webchick|scribe: Believe we're at a itpping point in marketplace
(12:56:52 PM) webchick|scribe: I believe the DA and the board going to play critical role
(12:56:55 PM) webchick|scribe: in where project goes in the future
(12:57:02 PM) webchick|scribe: we have a fantastic pool of candidates
(12:57:04 PM) webchick|scribe: hope we all get involved
(12:57:07 PM) webchick|scribe: not just the two who are elected
(12:57:07 PM) KatteKrab: toddtomlinson++
(12:57:08 PM) stephvhosny: here here
(12:57:13 PM) webchick|scribe: would like to bring my glboal perspective
(12:57:20 PM) webchick|scribe: working at enterptise level and small startup
(12:57:23 PM) webchick|scribe: board experience
(12:57:26 PM) webchick|scribe: but fanstatic set of candidates
(12:57:32 PM) webchick|scribe: support them in their efforts
(12:57:34 PM) webchick|scribe: Skyred:
(12:57:42 PM) webchick|scribe: New markets such as Asia have a lot of programmers
(12:57:47 PM) webchick|scribe: we are falling behind
(12:57:53 PM) webchick|scribe: We have incentive to promote more in Asia
(12:57:55 PM) webchick|scribe: I would like to help
(12:57:57 PM) webchick|scribe: Steve:
(12:58:05 PM) webchick|scribe: I've been amazed with this process over last 12 hours
(12:58:14 PM) nedjo: any candidates not spoken yet?
(12:58:20 PM) webchick|scribe: realze when the GPL3 came out and first piece of legislation made by the community, for the community
(12:58:29 PM) KatteKrab: skyred: I have a question for you.... Do you know about Software Freedom International team in Beijing?
(12:58:30 PM) webchick|scribe: I think I bring some perspective
(12:58:31 PM) nedjo: noted jredding_: you're up after the candidates.
(12:58:32 PM) webchick|scribe: the DA has changed a lot
(12:58:34 PM) webchick|scribe: needs to change a lot more
(12:58:37 PM) webchick|scribe: and I'd like to take it to that level
(12:58:45 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo
(12:58:48 PM) webchick|scribe: Any other candidat I missed?
(12:58:55 PM) webchick|scribe: Very stirring set of summries
(12:58:59 PM) webchick|scribe: in terms of perspectives, skills
(12:59:00 PM) nickvidal: ;)
(12:59:05 PM) webchick|scribe: vision and energy that all of you are looking to bring to the DA
(12:59:11 PM) skyred: KatteKrab, I haven't had any communication with them yet
(12:59:25 PM) webchick|scribe: really am confident that we can learn from and benefit from your energy
(12:59:25 PM) stephvhosny: thanks fellow nominees, its been great to meet you all
(12:59:25 PM) webchick|scribe: despite the fact that only tw of you in the end will end up on the board
(12:59:25 PM) webchick|scribe: thank you all for partiicpating
(12:59:28 PM) webchick|scribe: one remaining hand
(12:59:31 PM) webchick|scribe: Jacob, go ahead then wrpa things up
(12:59:32 PM) webchick|scribe: Jacob:
(12:59:34 PM) webchick|scribe: Quick startement
(12:59:38 PM) webchick|scribe: then we'll jump into townhall meeting
(12:59:42 PM) webchick|scribe: my favourite when listening to candidates
(12:59:46 PM) webchick|scribe: esop. the ones up at 3-4 am
(12:59:50 PM) rcross: big thanks to nedjo for facilitating the call
(12:59:52 PM) webchick|scribe: i remember when Iw as elected to board the first time in 2007
(12:59:55 PM) webchick|scribe: we were Drupal VZW
(12:59:59 PM) webchick|scribe: I was sitting at my couch at 3am
(01:00:01 PM) mrconnerton: nedjo++
(01:00:02 PM) webchick|scribe: in an IRC channmel
(01:00:07 PM) webchick|scribe: waiting for elections to see if I'd be on the board
webchick|scribe wonder95
(01:00:11 PM) webchick|scribe: just seeing changes we've gone through
(01:00:13 PM) webchick|scribe: in past 5 years
(01:00:13 PM) mrconnerton: webchick|scribe++
(01:00:15 PM) webchick|scribe: really amazong
(01:00:18 PM) ***Crell joined the board the same time as Jacob. Now I feel old.
(01:00:18 PM) webchick|scribe: by opening up these elections
(01:00:26 PM) webchick|scribe: hearing so many candidates who have that passion/drive to get up at 3am
(01:00:27 PM) webchick|scribe: that's amazing
(01:00:30 PM) stephvhosny: thanks for scribing webchick|scribe
(01:00:35 PM) webchick|scribe: if you weren't up at 3am today, you were yesterday
(01:00:36 PM) KatteKrab: :)
(01:00:42 PM) webchick|scribe: wonderful to see that our comunity is still thriving, still pasionate
(01:00:45 PM) stevepurkiss: we all love drupal!
(01:00:46 PM) webchick|scribe: I'm excited for this
(01:00:49 PM) webchick|scribe: this is exciting, new
(01:00:51 PM) webchick|scribe: this is a long time coming
(01:00:54 PM) webchick|scribe: as nedjo is well aware
(01:00:58 PM) stephvhosny: drupal! drupal! drupal!
(01:00:59 PM) rcross: webchick|scribe ++ for your help too!
(01:01:01 PM) webchick|scribe: we droveh the governance last year
(01:01:04 PM) KatteKrab: skyred: ok
(01:01:06 PM) tsvenson: jredding_++
(01:01:07 PM) Crell: webchick++
(01:01:07 PM) webchick|scribe: really great to hear what's coming out of it
(01:01:10 PM) Crell: nedjo++
(01:01:11 PM) mrconnerton: webchick++
(01:01:11 PM) webchick|scribe: looking forward to next steps!
(01:01:13 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo:
(01:01:17 PM) webchick|scribe: Thanks everyone for participating in this
(01:01:17 PM) Crell: greggles++
(01:01:17 PM) stephvhosny: sleep well KatteKrab
(01:01:22 PM) webchick|scribe: Did you just say we're going straight into a townhall here?
(01:01:22 PM) nickvidal: thank you for your words jacob. congrats on this effort to make DA more open and transparent!
(01:01:23 PM) webchick|scribe: Yes!
(01:01:24 PM) greggles: segueway!
(01:01:36 PM) webchick|scribe: Townhall meetings are right now. ;)
(01:01:37 PM) stevepurkiss: are the details for voting published yet? I may have missed if they got published today...
(01:01:37 PM) webchick|scribe: greggles: I might need to tag. ;D
(01:01:39 PM) KatteKrab: thanks stephvhosny :)
(01:01:44 PM) webchick|scribe: Nedjo: One more thing to say
(01:01:46 PM) jhodgdon: gotta go, thanks for scribing webchick and greggles!
(01:01:48 PM) webchick|scribe: I am going to try and post the raw IRC
(01:01:50 PM) greggles: webchick|scribe: I am dropping from this call :/
(01:01:54 PM) webchick|scribe: and one with just the questions
(01:01:56 PM) jhodgdon left the room.
(01:02:04 PM) webchick|scribe: If you could try and adapt your questions / answrs into qiki that I can post
(01:02:05 PM) KatteKrab: nedjo: great idea
(01:02:06 PM) KatteKrab: ok
(01:02:10 PM) webchick|scribe: other who are not on the call will have an easier thing to read
(01:02:10 PM) stephvhosny: of course
(01:02:12 PM) webchick|scribe: habnding off to jacob
(01:02:19 PM) stephvhosny: thanks everyone good job
(01:02:20 PM) webchick|scribe: everyone remember
(01:02:24 PM) webchick|scribe: voting opens tomorrow (cross fingres)

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