Drupal Montréal on Meetup

There isn't much duplication of efforts as there has been no visible efforts, that I known of, to keep http://www.meetup.com/Club-Drupal-de-Montreal/ in sync with what happens on g.d.o. and what the Drupal Montréal Association is doing.

Have the events planned openly at public meetings of the Drupal Montréal Association and advertised here been advertised on the "Club Drupal de Montreal" group? Have you contacted the association or the rest of the community through public channels to invite them to post events to that Meetup Group?

As mentioned by ergonlogic, the group name suggest some sort of more restricted organization than the general Drupal community in the Montréal area. The description clearly lack any clear reference to g.d.o.

All of this make it looks like the "Club Drupal de Montreal" Meetup group has been kept separated from the Montreal Drupal Association and g.d.o on purpose. Although it may be only miscommunication.

I was at the founding meeting of the association, and I supported the idea of the community outreach function. And I don't remember anyone saying that tasks the person assuming that function would assume would be stupid. But yes, an agreement on the function being in the by-laws was not reached. And one of the argument was that it wasn't the goal of the association to assume the tasks of that functions, so that the association should not be committed to assume the function. Nothing was said about financially supporting, or not supporting, the tasks if done by community members.

At the last Drupal meeting, organized by the association, Meetup was briefly mentioned and the only feedback that came was that indeed a Meetup group would be needed. So, at the next board meeting of the association, the subject was put to the agenda (which is public) and discussed. I offered to create the group. At both the event or at the board meeting, the existence of the "Club Drupal de Montreal" Meetup group was never mentioned. I only saw it after registering on Meetup and creating the Drupal Montréal group. So it wasn't ignored on purpose, it was ignored because it failed to get the attention of several community members involved in the community live.

All said, I'm sure everyone here would be pleased to see both groups merged.

Hei, MisterSpeed ,
I am to a member of the board (a new one) now for several board meetings.

I think you see bad intentions where there is none, and politics where there is none. You were maybe a founder, whatever, but, did you talk to the board recently? I do not know who you are, I know... But before being like mad, please, communicate and please, let the other know your point-of-view that maybe they did not know. : )

So I got it wrong about the by-laws, my bad. Sorry about it. I'm still pretty sure nobody called the community outreach job stupid and unnecessary.

IMHO, https://groups.drupal.org/montreal is one of the main places, if not the main place, for discussions, activities and announcement for the Drupal Montreal community. It's open, re-use a model well-known by the larger Drupal community and is not tied to any organization except the Drupal Association which maintain it for free with almost no string attached. So it seems both obvious and logical to me that any initiative addressing the community of Drupal enthusiasts in the Montreal area would be announced here. But despite being here before the creation of "Club Drupal de Montreal" Meetup group, I've never seen any mention of it on https://groups.drupal.org/montreal.

There is already an active events calendar on https://groups.drupal.org/montreal/events where anyone can post their events. So it seems both obvious and logical to me that any events organized in the Montreal area by anyone knowing about it be would be announced on https://groups.drupal.org/montreal/events. Yet, of the three events you mentioned being organized by the "Club Drupal de Montreal" this year, none of them have been announced on https://groups.drupal.org/montreal/events.

Here on https://groups.drupal.org/montreal/, the community of Drupal enthusiasts in the Montreal area has never been called the "Club Drupal de Montreal". So it seems both obvious and logical to me not to name "Club Drupal de Montreal" any general space dedicated to the same community on an external service (such as Meetup, Facebook, Google+, etc.).

And it seems both obvious and logical to me to link to https://groups.drupal.org/montreal/ from any website that address the same community.

It seems to me that you, as the organizer of the "Club Drupal de Montreal" group, have not been doing these things that are both obvious and logical to me on purpose. So no, I'm not reading your intentions, I'm presenting some facts and express the immediate conclusion that come to my mind. Without making any assumption of what your intentions are when you are avoiding making contact with the community of Drupal enthusiasts gathering on https://groups.drupal.org/montreal/.

The objective of the Meetup group is to extend the reach f the event announcements made here on g.d.o.

I while ago I opened a Google+ page where I replicate announcements of events made here, on g.d.o.. The plan is to do the same with Meetup. The Google+ page and the Meetup group are only relays for the information already available here. They are not substitute or replacement of g.d.o.

To be clear, Drupal events does not have to organized on Meetup, neither do they have to be organized on Google+, or Facebook, or g.d.o. or any single place. They are organized by whoever want to organize then, wherever they want using whatever tools to want. But, IMHO, they should be announced here on g.d.o. because it is the de-facto central hub for everything happening in the community.

I strongly disagree on using any service other than g.d.o. as the main site for the community of Drupal enthusiasts in the Montreal area. Yes, g.d.o. is far from perfect but it is free (as in beer and as in freedom) without sacrificing the privacy of its users in order to make profits.

Anybody who is already involved in any parts of the Drupal community already have a account on drupal.org (g.d.o. re-use drupal.org accounts). Anybody who wants to contribute to Drupal in any way will eventually have to open an account on drupal.org. Asking for event organizer to post theirs event on g.d.o. is not al burden. The cost and difficulty of the task are marginal compared to all the other time consuming aspect of event organization.