What is the ideal size/purpose for this DrupalCamp?

i would be okay with any choice, as long as there is some fairly advanced stuff to challenge me

I would really like to hear some thoughts about which subjects everyone would like to hear about, to give some ideas to folks who are willing and able to present on a variety of topics but aren't sure what sort of drupal topics people really want to hear about

On the planning wiki we've got two presentations so far - please edit and propose a presentation:

http://groups.drupal.org/node/11447/edit

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I'd vote for the mix, but I'd have to go to several tracks I suspect. My self-teaching (autodidacticity?) leads to quick advances in some areas, so I would want more than beginner stuff yet could use plenty of fundamentals still.

That's why I vote for the large group, there's probably a way to address self-taught folks in a mix manner and give the hardcore folks more satisfaction, tho.

Dave

I was wondering if it's a feasible idea to present a thread of presentations that was in consideration of people who are wanting a site built. What would each step entail in light of wanting a Drupal site and what are that stages that would be appreciated by the designers? I'm thinking that considering two different types of web sites in each presentation, a social networking site and a business site or something like that. Presentations that even resulted in providing the interested people who wanted the site built with a very simple and detailed menu of all the choices and considerations involved, including how to best work with Durpal site designers so the "business person" or whomever could present things or the intentions of the the completed site so the working collaboration will go as smoothly as possible and with least cost.

Hey all,

We'd love to bring the Blue Tent Marketing crew down form the hills to meet the PingVision crew as I think we're the two biggest Drupal-based Internet marketing firms in Colorado. Be cool to have some social time for networking. Greggles, we'd be open to doing some presentations if y'all have some topics you'd like to see us cover.

Thanks,

Seth Brown
VP Production
Blue Tent

...from a business standpoint, and learning how easy it is to create web pages, it's a mystery to me as to why design companies don't have very simple menus that present ways to easily arrive at an end product from billions of possible versions of a web site. It seems to me still, after working on getting a "social networking site" built for almost two years now, strange that web designers haven't done this.

I'm expressing this "view", as an example of what can be understood by Drupal site designers in consideration of presenting to potential customers, what designers appreciate from clients while presenting what they offer in terms of a service or product where the customer learns how to be better educated and make requests for a "product" that is wanted to be created.

Another way to say it is that there is a disparity of communication that seems easily amendable in considerations od making a living as web designers and having your very own web site. Within that disparity is an imaginary "code" where there are varienes of experiences in relation to proximity of manners of considering and end product. Familarity and education from both sides of the issue, in consideration of a "presenters" and "learners" environment, or class room seminar, that could very possibly help reveal to very educated/fluent site designers and/or people who write code, how to present things where they didn't have to listen to clients 80% of the time, in terms of finding out what is most useful to present to clients. In a way, it's more important to present options to clients in a way that designers can more easily provide a service and end product and so clients are happier with the product.

It's a matter of figuring out how to do two things at the same time, in a way, while keeping one thing in mind, or two approaches being considered, the clients and site creators, while manners of communication are easily interprutable from two points of view, while the presentations of a few seminars facilitates a co-creation of what to consider in light of providing a service to people who don't understand the complexity of considerations that go into making a web site, so learning can occur where the services being offered and rendered, can consciously understand how to best address the final product in a particular mode of communication.

I hope that explains what I'm getting at. Personally, I'd very much like to have a better understanding as to how to ask for, from a minimally educated perspective concerning web site creation and the final product, "what do I need to say so you understand how to create what I'm wanting as a final product?".