Using Quiz for things that are not a Quiz

I think the use cases you describe could fit well into the more expansive Quiz module functionality currently being discussed. Can you add a note to the "Quiz 4.x planning" thread? Even better, post some feature request issue tickets.

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Hylke, I just checked out your demo and it's quite impressive. How are they authored? Does the user have to type XML?

Quiz is pretty limited right now, as you point out, but it is evolving rapidly and I think your use cases can be accommodated. I'm not sure the best way to go about it, but one might be do add your ClosedQuestion as a new Quiz question type using the new OO mechanism in Quiz 3.x. Then we can add features throughout the rest of quiz so it can be configured the way you've described.

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This form of interactive questioning with instant feedback would make a great educational tool. The quiz example you pointed to is awesome! It's like having a teacher guide you through the process of learning, first encouraging your to discover the knowledge for yourself and guiding you more directly through the process of figuring out the answer.

It seems to me that this should not be a new question type, but rather extend the existing question types, so that these q/a learning sessions would be able to benefit from all the different question types which exist now and which will be created later. I'm not sure how this would be done, since I've only just begun to look at the quiz module. The multiple choice question type already supports a form of feedback response, although it's significantly different than what you describe here since it's really designed for end-result feedback.

Perhaps you would need to create two modules to extend the cababilities of quiz questions, each of which would add a new section to the end of the create question pages:

Question Feedback - a list of feedback options, each with their own set of criteria defined by which option(s) were selected by the person providing the answer. So, you would enter the feedback into a text area and define the criteria under which that feedback will be given. (options: a selected, not c, not d) You will have to accommodate both single option and multi-option questions here, so the logic and UI could get kinda hairy.

Question Hints - It seems that this is just a list of hints that get displayed: one more for each incorrect answer until the hint basically tells the user what the answer is. Is there any need to also provide specific hints that are dependent upon which question option was selected or is that functionality totally regulated to the feedback module? Does the display order of the hints ever change depending on which options are selected?

Anyway ... just throwing out ideas because I love what I see going on here.

Hi HylkeVDS
This is an awesome demo and the perfect fit of what I want to accomplish.
I am newbie to drupal and trying to build a similar system for a school but the difference here is I want to give only three attempts per question and store the marks for each attempt. I will have different categories and the question type is only going to be multiple choices. For adding the questions I would rather not use xml . What will be the best way to go about this
Quiz has the limitations that you identified. Did you use the code from quiz and tweak it or is it a whole stand alone system. and did you use taxonomies and CCK?
Please explain a bit on how you achieved in the closed question.
Thank you in advance.
Tsegi

Hi HylkeVDS
Thank you for the fast reply. I want to limit it to three attempts because I want it to be kind of quiz but guide them to the right answer by giving feed back until they reach at the right answer so it is in the middle between quiz and a full feedback giving teaching system. Is your code going to be available as a module any time soon?
Tsegi

Hi HylkeVDS
Thank you. Finally I was able to test closed question as it was giving me a warning of pass by reference at a school machine but I managed to do it from another machine. My other question is how you can make consecutive closed questions like quiz?

Hi all,

I've made a first implemented the adaptive question-system Proteus, described in this paper: http://www.editlib.org/d/21709/article_21709.pdf
It has all the basic functionality, and a few rough edges (it doesn't work for anonymous users yet)

From a teacher's point of view:

1. Make a bunch of Closed Question nodes (using the ClosedQuestion module).
2. For each learning objective make a taxonomy term and link the term to the content types Closed Question and Proteus Quiz
3. For each question, under the heading "Proteus Settings" select the learning objectives for the question and assign an entry level and an exit level.
4. Create a Proteus Quiz node.
5. For this Proteus Quiz node, select the learning objectives for the quiz and set the Target Level for each objective.

From a student's point of view:

• A student starts at a level of 0 for each objective.
• The student can get questions that have an entry level that is lower than or equal his current level.
• If a student answers a question correct in 1 try, his new level will be the exit level for each objective linked to that question.
• If a student needs more tries, his new level will be lower than the exit level.
• Once a student reaches the target Level for all objectives of the Protus Quiz, he has finished the quiz.

You can get the module here:
http://wmmrc.wur.nl/drupal-modules

If you can't get the paper, send me a message and I'll send it by email.

Quite some updates happened in the past few months. The latest versions of the ClosedQuestion, Proteus and LinearCase modules can be found at: http://wmmrc.wur.nl/drupal-modules

We've started work on a manual for the ClosedQuestion xml format, but we don't have a nice question editor yet.

New is the module LinearCase that allows you to limit a students navigation through a book containing closed questions.
A linear case is a book that limits a students navigation. A student can progress through the book freely, untill he reaches a page with a question. The student then has to answer the question correctly before he can go to the pages beyond that question.

Feedback is always much appreciated.

I've just upgrade the permissions for guest user to view site reports, but I saw that there isn't nothing about closedquestion.
now you can check this.
I've already notice that when I published a closedquestion content I can't delete or edit it.
your module needs some particular configuration for the webserver? because this test webserver doesn't have php 5.2 but php 5.1.
I'm looking for your news. thanks a lot!

I've just upgrade the permissions for guest user to view site reports, but I saw that there isn't nothing about closedquestion.
now you can check this.
I've already notice that when I published a closedquestion content I can't delete or edit it.
your module needs some particular configuration for the webserver? because this test webserver doesn't have php 5.2 but php 5.1.
I'm looking for your news. thanks a lot!

Nice work!

Thanks for Your time.

phpclasses is a great site that i did not know about. OOP looks like the future, that web site will really help. ClosedQuestion is a great contribution as eLearning is growing leaps and bounds.

i am working on a Tax Continuing Education Site for Tax Preparers. Please do a post after the drupal review - (The best thing about drupal is the security team:)

Thanks again,

Ran