Wich Podcasting Feature would you add to a TO-DO list?

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Easily embedding video/audio inside other nodes using the video and audio modules (not the CCK ones that are less featured)
58% (23 votes)
A new module, that combines video and audio modules
20% (8 votes)
Blocks than can play video and audio aswell
8% (3 votes)
Provide embedding code for users to copy/paste in their own pages (a la youtube)
10% (4 votes)
Something as the webcam module, but that combine audio-only features
5% (2 votes)
Total votes: 40
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Basically we just made it

Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr's picture
Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr - Tue, 2007-02-20 13:09

And used the CCK fields (had to hack a template interface for them, though, to make them work as a normal audio module). As it is all of our nodes can have an optional audio version delivered with text.

The one thing that IS missing is an easy way for people to answer/comment. As it is one has to record an MP3 and upload it. Not anyone can/wants to do that. If we could have a "one click away" solution to upload a voice answer... that would make a big difference.


You mean something like the

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Rosamunda - Tue, 2007-02-20 20:40

You mean something like the "quick camera" of youtube?


I mean a vocal forum

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Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr - Wed, 2007-02-21 13:29

1) yes, the normal output is nice for prototyping, but once the functionality is there yiou definitely need to make it look as "your site"
2) I guess the title says it all. Our site is directed to people who cannot read/write in their native languages (actually it's millions of them in Western Europe, since local minority languages aren't taught in schools). It's pretty immediate to click on an icon to hear a podcast in your language, but you still need using a written UI to upload an answer. People do learn to read and write in time (while using the site), but we need something to make the site usable for anyone asap, while the learning curve starts. What I need is a "click me to answer" button that will record an MP3 locally and then upload it as a comment.


I see what you mean

ardas - Wed, 2007-02-21 14:14

I see what you mean now.

This is a quite a separate and big task. First of all, we need to save video per comment but not per node. As I know, there is no such solution like CCK for nodes which gives us an ability to extend comments. So, it should be implemented first to save video for comments.

Regards,
Dmitry Kresin, ARDAS group (ARDAS group)


What if?

Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr's picture
Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr - Wed, 2007-02-21 14:35

we could have a "Comment as a node"? I'm quite new to Drupal (2 months in all) this is my first big project on it. So maybe I'm saying stupid things. But since we can have "users as nodes", then why can't we have "Everything's a node"? It would probably be better than forking an entirely new multimedia management for comments, wouldn't it?


Definitely! But I don't knoe

ardas - Wed, 2007-02-21 15:28

Definitely! But I don't knoe about any module which will connect comment with a node just like user is connected with a node with usernode module. I didn't search for it yet.

Regards,
Dmitry Kresin, ARDAS group (ARDAS group)


No such thing

Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr's picture
Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr - Wed, 2007-02-21 15:40

I did look for it, but cannot find any, at least not in 5.0 and 4.7. The only thing going remotely close to it is the comment mover, that can "make" a node of a comment. But it's not like comments becoming nodes, it's simply the body of a comment getting copied into a new node. So that's far from what I need :(


Yeah, that'sa problem in

ardas - Wed, 2007-02-21 16:09

Yeah, that'sa problem in Drupal - users and comments are not inherited from node. There is a long discussion about how to make everything_as_a_node, but I think that this will be even not in 6.0 :)

Regards,
Dmitry Kresin, ARDAS group (ARDAS group)


It kinda works...

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Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr - Thu, 2007-02-22 01:47

at least as a promise, see: http://drupal.org/project/nodecomment

you can dnload it only from the CVS at http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/contributions/modules/nodecomment/ I'm going to give it a go tomorrow.

The example forum ( http://www.daughtryofficial.com/node/51206 ) does not look "different", but then if the node type they use is a story... there's nothing one could immediately notice, right?


It looks like exactly what

ardas - Thu, 2007-02-22 09:20

It looks like exactly what you need. With this module you can extend a node type associated with comments and add video field there.

Regards,
Dmitry Kresin, ARDAS group (ARDAS group)


yes, it kinda works

Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr's picture
Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr - Thu, 2007-02-22 13:42

I’ve tried it. It did destroy my sandbox, but it's probably my fault, as there was too much rubbish in the database from previous experiments. It's working fine right now on a brand new sandbox. Anyway, if anyone wishes to give it a try... backup everything twice before you do it :)

You should also be aware that
1) you must disable “forum” and whatever else depends on “comment”
2) you must disable “comment” (failure to do so will result in a double function declaration, i.e. in a site crash)
3) you have to modify your “forum.info” file to have it request “nodecomment” instead of “comment”.
4) you can now enable in sequence “nodecomment” then “forum”
5) you should make your comment type and use it, the type used in comments is declared at: admin/settings/nodecomment (basically the same regs you get for a usual comment, plus a node-type selector)
6) this new content type MUST be called "comment"

Now back to my original request.

Supposing that we do start from here (I enclose a screenshot) and it all works, how hard do you think it would it be to
a) have an external MP3 recorder activated by a “push to answer” button
b) the temporary recorded MP3 stored in a local directory
c) the local file path put in this (now hidden) field
d) a button saying something like “publish Y/N” by which people finally decide to upload their spoken text

It could be video, too, but basically what we need now is decent telephone quality audio. Bandwidth and server space are not for free ;) so in case we use video there should be a way to make sure people do not waste a 198kbit bandwidth or higher to record a birthday chat.

I understand that this “node comment” module won’t be a standard maybe until Drupal 10 or until forever. Given that, I’d rather ask for a button with the requested behavior that could be placed on any given content type and would offer a configurable caption text. At that point it’s our problem whether we use it in comments or not.


now online

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Bèrto ëd Sèra@dr - Sun, 2007-03-11 14:59

We're going to be pretty experimental for six more months (at the very least) but are now beginning to feel stable enough for an alpha version. We went the "everything is a node" road. http://eng.i-iter.org

Suggestions are welcome. Forums still behave pretty weird...


You'd better always hack a

ardas - Wed, 2007-02-21 09:45

You'd better always hack a template interface for nodes because the default ones are quite ugly. I haven't seen a client who was satisfied with Drupal native output:) So, this is not a problem when you need to hack a template because every normal site assumes you need to create your own normal output.

Working with CCK nodes is always better because imagine what if you need your video node to have 4 more fields of different type?

Regards,
Dmitry Kresin, ARDAS group (ARDAS group)