DrupalSH Meetup -- Nov.14, 2012

Barcamp (http://www.techyizu.org/) has decided to work with us to collaboratively launch the first DrupalCampChina in March, 2013. We will have a short meeting to discuss more details.

关于meetup的时间。不知大家有何意见。
放在星期中有其好处，如果把meetup交流作为工作的一部分，周末就是较完整的私人时间。
也有朋友觉得每周三7点开始，从公司出发时间来不及，希望放在周末。
不知道大家怎么想？

Hi guys,

Thanks a lot for your feedback and proposed topics.
Looking forward to hearing the talk on lejia and discussing DrupalCampChina in March, 2013.

I just wanted to share a personal opinion concerning hibersh suggested topics:
I understand it must be very exciting to see all these new things, components and tools integrated with the next Drupal generations and series. All these frameworks, symfony, twig, etc... seem to be very interesting to explore as entire projects by themselves.

However, I'm wondering whether these frameworks wouldn't be too distant from some of the most common Drupal programmers preoccupations, at the moment.

I can surely see the relationship of talking about these tools and how they would integrate with Drupal in the next version, but there are probably still many possibilities of seeing things changing on the way and I guess in more than 2 years there won't even be any real adhesion to Drupal 8 in China, due to its very high requirements on client (JS/HTML/CSS) or server side (PHP and server versions/setup), not to mention the corresponding learning curve that is going to be even steeper since people are not only going to have to learn a new framework, but multiple, with depencies between components.

Drupal 7 has only recently hit a plateau of productivity and is finally starting to gain more adhesion in China, even though it's not going that fast. I would guess D7 is still going to be used, probably for the next four years in China, if not more, and could very well be considered as one of the versions that could federate and earn the most adhesion from the community.

In general, I would personally recommend that we try to stick with beginner to intermediate level kinds of topics and mostly focused on Drupal 7. This would allow to get us perhaps a little bit closer to our overall goal, which is having more people understand more things about Drupal in this community and get a wider participation/adhesion.

Therefore, for the time being, I would personally greatly appreciate if you could perhaps suggest other topics, more concrete and actual.
For example, it would be great if you could give your talk on the Concept of Entity once again, since I think a year ago, really few people at the meetup had any clue what it really meant and what it changed in the construction of sites or modules. This time, there would perhaps be interactions with the audience instead of a long monologue.
Especially, a lot of work has been done in this area, since the last year, for example, around Entity Translation, Entity Revisions, Entity Construction Kit (that wasn't mentioned in your talk last year), etc...
Then, next year, or later, depending on how things move with technologies, there would perhaps be more people in the audience that would be prepared to hear things about Drupal 8 and its components.

Once again, this is just my personal opinion on your suggested topics and I would be glad to hear your comments and feedback, or what others would have to say.

Thanks very much for your participation.

HI all, just an update, I will be there next Wed. Give me a little time to talk about Cloud computing and what it potentially can do with Drupal

:)

Keith

Looking forward to join this time again

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As we discussed at our meetup today, I would post the criteria below for selecting the international speaker for DrupalCampChina:

1. Speak good English (Native or bilingual proficiency)
2. Spoke at multiple DrupalCon
3. Well known Drupal contribution to the community.

If there is any other suggestion for criteria, please submit them down below before Sunday, Nov.18th.

I will email Drupal Association Community Cultivation Grant (CCG) with our selection criteria, and they will consider this in their reviewing process for our DrupalCampChina grant application.