This month Beijing official meetup will be skipped.
I hope you all will have a happy new year. :)
Thanks for you organize beijing drupal meetup.
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I was wondering when will you guys host Jan or Feb meetup? There are a few people from Shanghai who will love to attend the Beijing Meetup next time.
We learned some lessons from organizing and experiencing bilingual meetup and found some things to improve or change.
First of all, I feel there should be some communication happening on volunteering/suggesting/asking topics or questions...
And also mixing English and Chinese were not so satisfactory personally. I am sure some members who didn't understand English that well also felt similar way like me.
Most important part is what to share, teach, learn, exchange.
I ran out of my topic to offer right away as I am quite beginner level and hoped to see members coming up for topics or sharing tip ideas.
So I decided to focus on sharing my knowledge to novice or total beginner especially English speaking people.
So I am planning on that part.
Another thing is I started working on Beijing drupal meetup site to list organized way to encourage drupallers here or visiting Drupallers for occasional meetup and sharing. Not regularly(if we don't have topics or discussions)
Also I think more active communication is needed.
For example if I can share feeds module hands on training step by step guide for 20 min or so...but if no one shows interest or reply...how do I know if that's useful topic? So I am thinking to encourage members to express their interest and attending plan etc.
Anyway...there are more things to list and plan I feel. :) I will let you know when things are updated.
Also I hope anyone who likes to share something even if it's small module "how to guide" it will be useful(if users vote or show interest for example if 5 people shows interest and says they will come)...we can do any time when things happen organically.
For this month I will be busy and gone to Korea at the end of the month. And I will do Hello Drupal and Introducing different ways of making website and major CMS in Korea for expats...I will see how it goes and apply that in Beijing. :)
Thank you for your interest and support.
I encourage others to also initiate even if I am not in Beijing! :)
First of all, your stepping up is definitely great for Beijing Drupal community, Asian Drupal community and the whole international community. I much appreciate your effort.
On the other hand, I understand how hard it is to cultivate a community from ground up. I share the same frustration. It takes a lot of time and effort to reach a level where more people than just you are contributing. For example, I have been doing Drupal meetups and Happy hour in Shanghai for about 2 years now, and finally the community is getting more stable, and more people are motivated to contribute to the local community.
I asked about the next date time above, because I can help bring some experienced community members from Shanghai to your meet up, they can propose topics that they want to share. By going to your meet up, I want to help you set a good example of contributing for your local members.
If this sounds like a good idea to you, let's do it in February after you return from Korea. You just need to set a date and place, then we will show up!
On the other hand, have fun and happy new year in Korea!!
Thank you so much for thinking of us here and support!!!
I just opened www.beijingdrupalmeetup.com site now. It is not perfect yet(never) but at least I wrote down fast what I am thinking.
It needs more detailed, organized plans and suggestions later.
Since you mentioned we just need to set the date...I made the last Sunday of Feb as potential meetup day.
Of course it doesn't have to be that day depending on the guests(?) schedule. ;)
Thank you so much for everything!
I'm too tired to write more nicely..please understand me. :)
All the best to you and Happy New Year to you in Shanghai as well!
Regarding building a separate site for meetup, although it has certain advantages, the disadvantages are below:
Disconnection from the rest of Drupal community (Signups, Cross promotion, User engagement, etc)
More maintenance work for the site.
A personal site is not as reliable as groups.drupal.org
Ownership. Drupal community and its DoMocracy policy depends on open source or common good. If the site is owned by a person, it cannon be served as a common ground.
Therefore, I highly recommend you to stay with http://groups.drupal.org/bei-jing-china , and as I mentioned before, I can help you to get the admin access to the Beijing group, then you can have more control over it.
I understand totally what you are concerend.
But I experienced not so much active signups, engagement from members or reactions.
Although your concerns might be reasonable, to me it's better than going with current situation.
I am good at connecting people and communicating and promoting-I am actively doing this for Seoul Korea Drupal all the time and I cross market and brought some positive reactions and connections. :)
I know keeping group as main platform is important. So I always cross post everywhere even though it's alot of work and labor!
For the concern of domain being owned by person. I totally understand that as well too. But it is going very well in Korea...the domain is owned by person who has Drupal spirit. :))
If I leave Beijing and someone else can take over continuting sharing and spreading Drupal, I will be happy to give back to the person of course!
It will bring more positive things than negative so please be optimistic and continue support on helping growing Beijing Drupal community and meetups!
For better organization and reaching out to international audiences and potential Drupalists, I think it is good to have a seperate site. There are other groups and meetups use seperate sites and meetup.com account in the west as you might know.
Only thing is the spirit behind running the site. I will be balanced and neutral and think for the community. So don't worry too much.
I will ask D.A., other Drupal community members their opinions as well. If using the domain name could be conflict for common/public image then I will reconsider!!
I hope for the best and encourage more exisitng members and potential members to get to know Drupal and share and help each other.
Thank you for your kind concern and support!
I will always stay here too! haha~ Just most of time I don't know what's going on in Chinese...post...
Connecting, promoting, blogging, sharing is my gift.
I promote, actively communicating many different platforms not only groups.drupal.org
This is Sven reporting his connecting and sharing in Asia.
Today he posted for what he did in Bangkok.
He is interested in coming to Beijing the end of this year. :)
Mobilizing Bangkok/Thailand Drupal community - first large meetup at Microsoft
SkyRed invited me to Chime in. I'm Jimmy but i these part they call me CORPX ;) I live in Shanghai, but my firm has both Shanghai and Beijing offices, so please don't hesitate to reach out.. I'm vested in both cities. and thanks @SkyRed for bring this to my attention.
As to developing a different site... I think its a good idea. There a huge language barrier to overcome and I also think that the Chinese feel more comfortable with some sort of a transitional step. Aside from that... Drupal.org can be a bit daunting even for westerners that don't speak English.
I'd be behind and would contribute resources to a Beijing Drupal site if it:
-- Provided a comfortable place for devs in the area to connect.
-- Looked great
-- Key messaging was oriented towards drupal.org. THe sites primary purpose would be as a transition to the larger community not as a competitor.
-- No pushing of personal agendas. Having small logo at the bottom of organizations such as ours that sponsor the site through commitment of time and money is okay (drupal con sites do that), but beyond that it'd be tacky.
As to Name ownership use of drupal and perception of the rest of the community, I can reach out and get drupal/aquia support for the project.
China isn't like the rest of the world. 1 example is that video resources and other items online can't be accessed here. Explaining that and demonstrating a commitment to the larger community often results in more support than you initially imagined.
as an example:
Absent context, putting videos up on youku with translations is something that might be frown upon. Take a moment to contact the orignal author explain that the chinese can't see his video on vimeo/youtube and asking permission to redub, post and link back... will almost certainly result in a yes.
Just my 2cents.
I'm in Beijing regularly, but please let me know when you are hosting an event and RedSky can Join me on the trip!
Nice to talk/hear from you Jimmy!
All you stated clearly are great and I agree on those 100%.
I put the site on my server in Korea and I access remotely through window remote access.
I am not advanced Drupal user so I didn't figure out how to use drush out of my server.
I will set the ftp and get the drush working without accessing my server(or if you know how to do that...I'd be happy for you to set that up) and give you the credentials. :)
Or if your company wants to host...that's GREAT too.
I never put clients' site on my server as I am a little worried or afaid in case things go wrong.
I also heard from one of our Beijing drupalist that he got permission from Drupalize.me team and could get the video files for China situation. They were very happy and sharing.
Setting YouKu account and host many free community videos will be great. And translation too.
Since I don't speak Chinese, I feel I couldn't do much but this is great!!
Would you prefer Sat or Sun. Time frames?
Since we have visiting drupalists, I would like to see we can accommodate more comfortably.
I will talk with Robbin and his office situation and find out more details.
Thank you for joining and working together! :)
My email is jiyoung # mswebmatrix.com and the site I just opened today is www.beijingdrupalmeetup.com
Hope we could make it better for common/community.
Thank you so much! :)
everything sounds great. only thing I have a different perspective on.... the use of Drupalize.me vids. They are commercial. I'd recommend we start by translating the following:
First and foremost...
Drupal 7 marketing video -- http://vimeo.com/18352872
Then I'd work over the the nodeone.se library of videos. I'd rather put the china spotlight on western users who have given to the community first... then those who have pro fitted from it second. Thoughts?
Very thoughtful! Yes that make sense and I totally agree! :)
Drupalize.me also made many free community videos these days but still I know what you mean!
Do you speak Chinese I assume? :)
I plan to start Chinese study after lunar new year holiday return!
I felt quite alone in the last Beijing Drupal meetup when I was the only non-Chinese speaker and everyone spoke in Chinese...
Keep up the great work!
P.S. Robbin suggested March 3rd Sunday for next meetup. After everyone coming back from visiting families and holidays and having some resetting time before meetup! 2-4PM March 3rd would be fine for you guys?
Many thanks to Jiyoung. I understand the difficulties and appreciate her efforts so much.
For those interested in Drupal events in Beijing， please keep an eye on events organized by @g089h515r806, probably once a month, if not every other week. For more information, please refer to the previous event (Feb. 2nd) notice. http://groups.drupal.org/node/280268
Yes, I heard that from Lugir and that is great thing! :)
We confirmed March meetup for 3rd of March and several drupalists from Shanghai confirmed to join us. :) Including Skyredwang.
I will update tomorrow(I created event but somehow it got all gone!)
Happy new year and see you in March!
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