Asia-Pacific progress is stifled by lack of decisions. In order to make decisions I think we need to begin to formalise this group and delegate tasks, decisions, and some responsibilities. What is the best way to do this?
Perhaps we should accept nominations and votes for some of the key roles defined in the ERDO document (Chairperson, Selection team/taskforce). Or perhaps we should ask Cary Gordon to select a "Chair-person" who will then expand the team. (ERDO's chair-person was recruited by Cary Gordon.)
In Drupal and Open Source, nominations and voting are often done via IRC. Though maybe it will be too difficult to cater for everyone in this group via an IRC chat-room. Maybe GDO polls are better for this?
Should we invite all local user groups to be a part of this process? There are definitely user groups that have been under-represented in discussions here. India, Indonesia, Japan, China and the Philippines come to mind. I think we should at least contact organisers of local drupal events in those regions (DrupalCamps etc), to invite them to nominate and/or vote.
Thoughts?
Comments
Organisers of local Drupal
Organisers of local Drupal events should definitely have a say. Voting and working on IRC should as well be convenient.
Re: Organisers of local Drupal events
kinshuksunil wrote:
Yes, there are a few from Asia-Pacific in Regional event organizing groups, but most of them are in the local groups.
Event organisers
kinshuksunil wrote:
And I think you are very right. It's also important that many other people will help in many ways, however event organisers should be among the main members of the team.
People from Asia-Pacific with experience in organising Drupal events (especially DrupalCamps, code sprints and similar, rather than just meetups) are for example: Ryan Cross and Simon Hobbs (Australia); Bevan Rudge (New Zealand); Peggy Xie and Reno Peng (China); Isriya Paireepairit (Thailand); Roshan Shah and Abhishek Nagar (India); J. Francisco and Marc Robinsone (Philippines); Charles Chuang (Taiwan); and others.
Drupalers with experience in organising open source events are for example: Yasushi Osonoi (Japan); Kinshuk Sunil (India); etc. (There is a new open source section in the events wiki).
For example, Bevan is already doing a good job in the group, and let's hope more event organisers like him will also join.
Should we invite all local user groups to be a part of this...?
Bevan wrote:
Yes, I think so. We should go ahead and inform the groups now. Although, as I said, I'm too busy these days (and probably from now on), I can find some minutes to do it if we agree. For example, something like that suggested short post, or any other just to inform about this organising group, so that all further discussions will be maintained here.
If anyone volunteers to do this task (joining all Asia-Pacific groups just to publish one post), it would be nice. I think the team work of this group is mostly for Asia-Pacific residents. Others like me can also help sometimes.
inclusive sd be the word of the day
We sd try to include as many as possible if we hope to have any cred as a trying Regional group. Therefore, I think we sd focus on outreach to all local groups and try to avoid fragmentation. I also think that voting sd be by whatever process erects the fewest barriers -- and to me that rules out IRC. We need something browser-based.
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I agree with this suggestion.
I think we could try a couple times to get as many people involved as possible. For example, I think it'd take a couple try's to get all the groups informed for India.
Also when some people from local groups get involved there may have suggestions for who else to contact. And we could ask again the second wave of people who else should get involved until it looks right.
So for starters maybe we could go around contacting 1-2 biggest groups per country and ask them if they have any suggestions.
From there maybe we could work out a rough sort of communication tree per local area for starters, and then advance the topics.
Who should do the contacting? if this sounds reasonable?
I think the draft Juan wrote
I think the draft Juan wrote on http://groups.drupal.org/node/27528#comment-95888 is a great start, though I think we need clearer goals and an obvious purpose if we are going to post it to all of the g.d.o groups in the Asia-Pacific region. E.g. to request candidate nominations for fill key roles on the team, to request location nominations, to request votes on something, to request feedback on process, locations or location reports, etc.
Bevan/
After informing the groups, all can be done in this group
Bevan wrote:
In my opinion, after briefly informing the Asia-Pacific groups just about the recent creation of this organising group -providing a link to visit the group-, all the rest, announcements, process, nominations, etc., can be done directly in this group.
I think the problem is that most users don't yet know the very existence of this new group, or even that a Drupal conference is going to be held in the region. I wouldn't be surprised if over 90% of people didn't read the "New groups" block on the right. Did all of us read there is a new "Sprints" group, for example?
They are not yet informed, that's all.
In case anyone missed it, I
In case anyone missed it, I initiated a conversation with Cary on behalf of the group. Please join in at http://groups.drupal.org/node/30112. The first task I think should be either;
Bevan/
How do we which group to choose
Choosing the groups themselves could be a difficult task, specially in countries like India and China. Given the sheer size of these two countries and multiple groups that exist, it is not easy. Things get complicated by the fact that there are certain groups who are involved in events others than Drupal specific ones.
Also, Drupal normally has a good presence in all major FOSS events here in India. So should we count the organizers of those events ? Plus the group of organizers for such events could be mutually exclusive... so how do we decide in this case ?
regards
Vivek