Next Drupalcamp Ireland

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garyh's picture

Has there been any suggestion or plans for the hosting of the next drupalcamp in Ireland?

I may be able to both logistically and financially help with sponsorship for an event in the new year.

In terms of the next drupalcamp does anyone have any idea what format it may take, does anyone want it to focus on any particular aspects? The first camp I went to in Belfast I enjoyed and presented a couple of sessions, however I feel as though their could be more structure to the presentations to absolute beginners.

Thoughts?

Comments

I'll be moving to Galway to

linclark.research's picture

I'll be moving to Galway to work on some of the same stuff scor was doing at DERI. I organized the users group in Pittsburgh and would be happy to help out in planning.

I don't know what the last DrupalCamp Ireland was like, but the one in Chicago had a beginners track that was very introductory and an Advanced track, which I think really worked well in serving those distinct audiences.

Yay!

stella's picture

Oh and welcome to the Drupal Ireland group! If you're ever in Dublin, be sure to let me know - especially if you're around on the last Weds of the month, as that's when we have our Dublin Drupal meetups :)

Hi stella, thanks for the

linclark.research's picture

Hi stella, thanks for the welcome! Fen mentioned I should look you up when I told him I was moving here. I will definitely make it out to as many of the Dublin meetups as I can :)

Woo Hoo!

alanburke's picture

A Drupalcamp Ireland thread started by some new-ish people!

At the last Drupalcamp in Belfast, two separate people said they might take it on.
So hopefully they can jump in here and make it happen.

We're getting the format nearly right.
Pure barcamp style isn't really working, I believe.
I think many people are extremely skilled and can give a great presentation, but just need a little nudge to stand up and do something.
So the organisers might need to do a bit of work to draft up a schedule, and get people to take on the topics. And that needs to be done in advance, so then people who are thinking of coming know what the line up will be.

A bit of room for flexibilty doesn't hurt either.

Good to have you in Galway, Linclark.
Since Scor has departed, I haven't tried to organise a local meetup, and I have too much on my plate.

I'm not in a position to organise the next Drupalcamp, though happy to present, but surely people are sick of hearing me talk at this stage!

Alan

Mr-Fabulous's picture

Greetings to you Alan and others interested in the next Drupal Ireland Meeting,

After eventually finding the right person to ask about using the IADT (Art and Media / Computer Science College in Dun Laoghaire) and / or The Media Cube (the college's early start-up incubation centre) for the next Drupal Camp, the good news is that The manager of The Media Cube has given a general 'Yes' to the idea, however he has stated that there will be some charges for use of facilities. I should find out this week what sort of charges we're talking about here but I've noted that some people may be able to get sponsorship so the more info and cards we have up our sleeve the more we can hopefully negotiate a good deal. Although don't worry I'm not planning on wading in and agreeing anything until the general Drupal Ireland community are satisfied with the location etc. It's early days and could fall apart on price or something else but assuming people are OK with the location I may need a little help (sponsorship included) in securing the best deal for the community.

I suggest you check out The Media Cube at: http://www.mediacube.ie/

Chow for now,

David

Good Stuff

alanburke's picture

Hi David
That sounds great - keep us up the loop.

I don't believe the location is ever the issue.
Sure, some places are better that others, but the best location is the one with the people who will make the event happen.

Alan

Thanks for the welcome,

linclark.research's picture

Thanks for the welcome, alanburke, scor mentioned the local meetups.

I will be presenting in November at DrupalCamp Vienna on the Semantic Web and Drupal, so I would be happy to present that set of slides. It would probably fit into an advanced track if there were two tracks.

I could also present something on how to start with Drupal from ground zero (getting the site installed, etc) in a beginner track.

Update on Next Drupal Ireland Camp

Mr-Fabulous's picture

Hi to all interested in the next Drupal Ireland Camp,

After making further inquiries as to the suitability of The Media Cube at IADT (That's the digital / media incubation centre at the Institute of Art, Design and Technology in Dun Laoghaire, County Dublin) for the next Drupal Camp, it's still possible but as previously stated there would be a charge for the facilities and it seems they're thinking of around the €1,000.00 mark but that's negotiable and covers someone from The Media Cube to be there for the two days as well as the facilities which are second to none. I suggested we would run it from 9.30 a.m. to 5.30 p.m. Saturday but as they were a bit iffy about Sunday I figured we could be out by 3.30 p.m. on the Sunday and they seemed happy enough with that. I said I could look after catering and they said they could set up a table or tables in the foyer for lunch and tea breaks although a small canteen exists on the second floor and the college canteen may be open on the Saturday. If the cost isn't prohibitive here, it's just possible numbers may make it so. The Media Cube's main meeting room can seat 70 comfortably, 100 at a squeeze and the rest would have to peer through the windows, (the main meeting room is on the ground floor with floor to ceiling windows on two sides)! LOL. Weather permitting there is a roof top open space which could also be used for a general meeting place.

I mentioned we would need a couple of breakout rooms and up to three could be provided including the bosses office for the weekend if it were needed. It goes without saying that WiFi access would be available and he said we could either use the in-situ laptops or use our own. Laptops of course can be linked up to one large drop-down screen or several television screens for presentations.

So I guess raising a bit of finance is the main hurdle unless others feel a limit of 70 to 100 attendees is also an issue.

By the way, thanks to 'garyh' past president of IADT Student's Union for offer of help. If everyone else thinks it's worth pursuing further then I'll be grateful for any help of course especially those who can raise some sponsorship.

David

P.S. When do people think we should have it? I would imagine March / April or easter weekend whenever that is?

Good Work!

alanburke's picture

Hi David
[Just a quick response]

  1. I don't think we've had to pay for a venue before [we I haven't :-) ],
    but as long as you as an organiser can raise sponsorship [or get somebody to do it] to cover the costs, then I don't see it as a stumbling block.

  2. 70 -100 attendees is a bit tight, we had about 80 at the last two venues.

  3. 3-30 pm finish on the Sunday would mean an early start on the Sunday morning to get value out of the day.

Later
Alan

The Sunday

Chris Graham's picture

Early starts... on a Sunday... after Saturday night binge drinking... :O

I mean, we had trouble getting people in for 11am! I suppose it might work, but you would need to make people very aware of the fact that they had to be there on time or be willing to sacrifice a few sessions if everyone stumbles in late. I do think our Sunday started a bit too late so it would be nice to at least try to convince people to be there on time... but I wouldn't hold your breath... especially if Feargal is going ;)

Awesome!

stella's picture

I don't seem to be getting email notifications from g.d.o any more, so sorry for joining the discussion late :) I think it's awesome that people are already thinking about where / when to host the next Drupal Camp, w00t!!

My two cents:

  • Media Cube sounds great, but only if you can find someone to sponsor the event. We haven't had to pay for a venue yet (thanks to DERI, DIT, NICVA!), and so have been able to keep the Drupal Camps free to register, and if possible I'd like to keep it that way so as to encourage as many people as possible to attend.
  • Sundays inevitably start later as people usually have sore heads after the night before :) So yeah I'd see the venue closing at 3:30pm on the Sunday as another downside :(

I don't mind where the event takes place. It'd be nice to have an event in Cork or somewhere else further south, but I'm not sure we have many active members in those areas. I know there was talk of Ennis (nudge conorc), and even Doolin, in Belfast, but I'm not fussed really to be honest. As long as people come and there's good sessions and craic, then I'll be there!

As for when, well DrupalCon SF is taking place in April. Holding it after Drupalcon in May, so we have free swag to give away, is probably a bit too late tbh. I'd be hoping for sometime in March - but it all depends on the venue, organisers, etc.

Cheers,
Stella

I just arrived at DERI, I

linclark.research's picture

I just arrived at DERI, I could ask whether any space here would be available again. Some of the DERI people are starting their own Drupal sites, so I'm sure there would be interest from newer users here.

DERI

alanburke's picture

Hi Lynn,
We've held 3 Drupalcamps in Galway at DERI,
mainly thanks to Scor[Stephane] and Cloud [John Breslin] who were both at DERI at the time.
Other people, myself included, helped out too.
2007 - http://groups.drupal.org/node/2372
2008 - http://groups.drupal.org/node/11742
2009 - http://groups.drupal.org/node/18452

Obviously Galway suits me, but I'm not able to do much/any work in helping out, apart from on the day.

Alan

I can also ask DIT again if

stella's picture

I can also ask DIT again if people want to do a Dublin based one. It'd be nice if it were somewhere new though. Sounds like thing to find out in a poll!

Poll created

stella's picture

Poll created at http://groups.drupal.org/node/35738 Let me know if any other places need to be added!

location of next drupal event

balaftuna's picture

If Galway is considered, there is a place which might give for free. I still have to ask a few people, no guarantees, but just wanted to know whether Galway an option.

How many people (ROUGHLY) are we talking about ?

Launched a new drupal site with over 100 pages... still needs a bunch of tweaks, but most of the work is there:
http://foundation-nepal.org/

All the best.

Shay.

Nice site! You should add it

stella's picture

Nice site! You should add it to the list of Irish sites using drupal (http://groups.drupal.org/ireland/irish-sites)

I think at the last 2-3 events we've averaged between 70-80 people, with maybe a few less coming on the Sunday.

Hey Irish Drupalers, moved

shaneod's picture

Hey Irish Drupalers, moved over to Drupal about 18 months ago and think it's the bees knees! Long overdue a trip to Galway so think it'd be a great choice! =-)

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Pride Web Design Cork
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Calling all potential Drupacamp Organisers

alanburke's picture

Hi all,
We're now into the new year, and people will start planning holidays etc soon.

Any update from the various people who might be able to take on the job?
I'm out this time - apart from helping on the day.

Regards
Alan

happy new year

heather's picture

i posted this on the poll, but repasting here.

what about sligo as a location? what if i could get a better venue than the one described below?

would people be interested in coming to the northwest? we might be able to swing it at a nice hotel (free venue), they could give us a free venue if we can guarantee room bookings.

what do people think?

i know for drupal camp belfast many people stayed in the same hotel, is that right? i wonder how many rooms were booked overall?

-h

Sligo as an option

heather - Sun, 2009-12-06 23:31
I know no one voted for it (including me). But I want to offer it as an option. I'd be glad to help organise this on the ground.

A good time might be May, because it will be after the DrupalCon so we can do a report post-con. So we'd likely want to start planning something by January.

There is a possibility that we could have the event at the Innovation Centre at IT Sligo. I've been told it's open for evening/weekend events, and they want to invite more people to meet there. So this would be a free venue.

We just had an event there: http://www.northwestconnects.ie/ Judging from the surveys, the event went well. Mainly comments about the venue were about the size of the small rooms.

What was the total attendance of the Belfast event?

Pros:
- free venue, free parking on a saturday.
- All flat rooms. 3 total, capacity: 100, 50 and 20- theatre style seating.
- Dates flexible, rarely any events on weekends there.
Big screens.

Cons:
- No free wireless, we'd have to get a sponsor for that, and it would be an external service.
- Small spaces, only 3 rooms available, no room for sprint/chat.
- You can't plug in your laptop... this is the biggest bummer :( You can bring in a USB key, so in theory you could run your sites/presentations off of that. But it's inconvenient... Actually it's nearly impossible to imagine a DrupalCamp where presenters can't use their own environment.
- Locked into relatively pricey (approx €10/per) catering (sandwiches/tea). they have an exclusive contract there. It ended up being the most expensive part of our budget. That included morning/Avo tea + sambos.

Bummer... I'm finding more negatives there than positives.

I'll look into other possible venues.

I think there are other options I can explore... I went to a BarCamp at Magee University in Derry, and that was excellent. Great space. I could see if that is a possibility.

Is the northwest simply too far for people?

Is the northwest simply too

alanburke's picture

Is the northwest simply too far for people?

Of course not! Drupalcamp Ireland can take place anywhere in Ireland as long as people can organise it there.
Even if somebody on Inis Mór wants to do it, and can do it - then why not?

[wrong place]

garyh's picture

[wrong place]

@manonmir

???

conorc's picture

I'm guessing you mean wrong place to post a reply rather than the Northwest is the wrong place to host a DrupalCamp?

Sligo would be more than fine for me. An island would be pretty cool too, Rockall might be fun, anyone anyone? ;-)

ha yes, i was too hasty with

garyh's picture

ha yes, i was too hasty with my reply. can't delete the comment either.

@manonmir

Now we have two great options

stella's picture

Now we have two great options - Sligo and Clare! This one works out better for me - for a start, I can go! If you could put together some cost estimates for wireless providers, we could look into getting sponsorship for it. Maybe from Acquia?

We've started holding 2 day events - is it possible to get both Saturday and Sunday there?

What do you mean you can't plug in your laptop? into the projector? I'm sure we could figure out a solution for that if so, well fingers crossed!

Sandwiches - we could try and get sponsorship for that. I'd like to avoid charging people in if possible, but I'm sure people wouldn't object too much to paying a tenner for the weekend - though 10 euros for lunch does sound a bit pricey - they'd better be awesome sandwiches ;)

DrupalCamp Ireland

conorc's picture

Hello All, here's another option to put into the pot:

DrupalCamp Clare

The Burren College of Art have very kindly offered their unique space in Ballyvaughan in North Clare free of charge. The provisional date being offered would still need to be confirmed, but looks to be 15th & 16th of May. The seeds of the idea for a location like this were sown in Belfast with Stella and Alan, that smaller settings may be more sociable.

The Pros include:
- A large gallery space, a lecture theatre, additional seminar/break out rooms and a cafeteria.
- An absolutely stunning location in the Burren.
- Wi-Fi.
- Several Hotels, B&Bs and self catering cottages nearby.
- Great pubs and restaurants in the area too.
- As Heather pointed out, it'll be post DrupalCon San Francisco.

The Con:
- Stella may not be able to make the weekend that the venue is being made available :-(

A lot of help will be needed (and appreciated) such as offering to give a presentation, deciding on the final schedule for the weekend, checking the Wi-fi is okay, getting sponsorship to cover catering and probably loads of things yet to be anticipated... The bar has been set pretty high by the previous Drupal Camps. But if everyone was into this, it could maybe just maybe be the best little Drupal Camp in the world!!!

Both Clare and Sligo could be great so I'm looking forward to the next Drupal Camp wherever it'll be. It's really up to you the Drupal community to decide :-)

Here's the college's website
http://www.burrencollege.ie/

And you can see the location on Google Maps.
http://maps.google.com/maps?ie=UTF8&ll=53.103449,-9.168997&spn=0.002828,...

There is a Bus Eireann service from Galway and according to one route planner, the driving times to Ballyvaughan from these locations are as follows:
Galway 0:54, Ennis 0:59, Shannon Airport 1:24, Limerick 1:34, Athlone 1:53, Tralee 2:34, Sligo 2:36, Cork 3:05, Dublin 3:06, Waterford 3:35, Derry 4:51 and Belfast 5:01.
NB since the opening of the Ballinasloe bypass on the Dublin Galway route, some of the actual travel times might be less than what has been calculated.

Conor


I wouldn't be able to make

garyh's picture

I wouldn't be able to make that date, but it sounds like It would be a great event!

@manonmir

Hi Gary

conorc's picture

Hi Gary,

how's things? that'd be a pity if the date didn't suit a lot of people....
Are you around for the Dublin meet up on Wednesday evening?

Conor

Hey Conor, I'm not bad at

garyh's picture

Hey Conor,

I'm not bad at all. I have my leave booked from 14-28th May and I'll be far, far away.

I can't make Wednesday as a friend of mine is leaving the country for good to live in Spain so goodbye drinks are happening, a sign of the times!

Gary

@manonmir

Yeah I definitely can't make

stella's picture

Yeah I definitely can't make it, what with exams and my niece's first holy communion. The only weekend in May I could do is 29th/30th. :( I'm sure it will be an awesome event though!

The Burren sounds like a

heather's picture

The Burren sounds like a go-er!

I'm going to San Francisco too, so there'll be alot to talk about post-conference.

All the links about how to run a good BarCamp are applicable, deffo! But mind what Alan says above: best not to leave sign up for talks until the day. That would be true BarCamp style, but it would be better to get speakers to sign up to speak in advance.

And read the messages/reports from former Ireland DrupalCamps. There's alot to be learned. Ireland is different that other places. A few idiosyncracies to take into account.

I'd recommend having only 2 main people organising the event. Getting a larger group sounds like it would be better, but it's not really (this comes from my experience w other events too). It makes coordination more difficult. Better to have two main people- and delegate to outside people just specific tasks here and there. That way you can leverage good will but save yourself some headaches.

We can work our other options for autumn Sligo or Dun Laoghaire, etc!

  • Heather

Thanks Heather!

Sile's picture

We'd definitely try and organise the speakers and schedule fairly well in advance, with plenty of slots for knowledge-laden Drupal Con attendees ;-)

I know Autumn is unfortunately out for hosting a DrupalCamp Clare in the Burren College of Art as the art students will be back then. But I'll double check tomorrow with them with regard to flexibility on dates in May.

Sile

What are the suggested

garyh's picture

What are the suggested requirements.

Are we looking at one space for up to 100 people and then two other spaces to accommodate up to 50?

Gary

@manonmir

estimated requirements

conorc's picture

Hi Gary,

The impression I was getting (but if anyone could correct me that would be great) when we were considering Ballyvaughan, was to find a venue that could accommodate even 75 people, ideally with another room to fit maybe 30. Another smaller office again could accommodate the documentation or the surgery. Of course if the camp proves much more popular than the previous ones, the figures will need to be increased. Or if more the two streams of presentations were planned to run concurrently, then more rooms would be required either.

After the physical space, Wi-fi seems to be the next most important element. And then provision of tea/coffee during the course of the day and also lunch. Having access to the building all day for both days looks to be essential, and further access before and after to set up and tidy away would help too. I don't have access to a projector myself, but from talking to others, it didn't seem to be an insurmountable issue if the venue couldn't supply them.

I would have anticipated the location (or at least convenient access to it) might have been an issue, but by the looks of things, timing is turning out to be more of a consideration. Out of curiosity, I'd love to know if the middle of May suits anyone, as the Burren College ticks all the boxes for me and some...

Stumbled across these links, don't know how much they would apply to a DrupalCamp, let me know
http://barcamp.org/BarCampHostingPoints
http://www.capulet.com/weblog/darren/how-to-run-a-great-barcamp
http://groups.drupal.org/node/10437
http://www.cleverclevergirl.com/?p=10

PS enjoy the drinks on Wednesday, must catch you at one of the other meet-ups.

Conor

Cheers Conor, What dates

garyh's picture

Cheers Conor,

What dates would be the ideal ones for most people? Is the idea to run two camps by the end of the year?

I don't want to step on anyones toes or try to detract from anyone else's ideas but I could look at the possibility of organising a hotel in Dun Laoghaire to hold it? If not this time maybe the next. The Royal Marine Hotel is pretty swanky and seems to have the required space. http://www.royalmarine.ie/dynamicdata/ConferenceRooms.aspx if it was this time around. Possible dates:
April 24th/25th, May 1st/2nd, May 8th/9th?

No matter where it's going to be, if i'm around I'll definitely be around and would be more than willing to present a few sessions.

Gary

@manonmir

No need to worry about

stella's picture

No need to worry about stepping on anyone's toes, the more options the better! However, I would be concerned about using a hotel - I doubt it would be free / cheap. Finding a reasonable venue which is free, or close enough to, is pretty difficult, especially when we want it for 2 days over a weekend.

After a venue/facilities and getting an organisation team together, I would probably rank wifi and location (ease of public transport or nearby accommodation) as the next most important bits. Things like lunch, while important, aren't as big of a concern IMHO. That's my two cents anyway, others may rank them a bit differently.

You should certainly look into the options and see what the costs / dates are like. If we don't go there this time, it's good to have next time round.

I'll get onto them for a

garyh's picture

I'll get onto them for a quote and see if I can get sponsorship and what the shortfalls would be.

@manonmir

Looking at hotels as an

heather's picture

Looking at hotels as an option...

We're looking at a hotel also as an option, asking the hotel for a free venue and wifi, and we will get sponsorship to cover food.. and then guarantee X number of bookings for rooms and X number of people for dinner. (Last DrupalCamp we had 30+ppl for dinner).

We're in conversation only at this stage, but it's a promising idea.

  • Heather

Let's go with the Burren!

alanburke's picture

Burren Drupalcamp May 2010 sounds good to me.

Conor and Sile seem to have the jump on everybody and have done a lot of work already to get organised.
And they have a free venue with Wifi !

So I say, let's go for it!

Heather and Stella have some wise words re organisation above, especially re small groups and delegation, and I'm sure Conor and Sile can pull it off.
I can't do much in advance to help this time around, but depending on the final date, I should be able to present and muck in on the day.

What would be great is if other groups in Dun Laoghaire/Sligo/wherever have their planning done, so it could be announced at Drupalcamp Burren where we are going for the next one.
Maybe that's just wishful thinking though!

Later
Alan

I say go with the Burren this

garyh's picture

I say go with the Burren this time too. Are the dates set in stone yet?

I am currently working out a deal with the Royal Marine hotel and will try and secure sponsorship of the costs. I'm guessing sometime in October for the second one? Will let you know how I get on.

@manonmir

October is good

alanburke's picture

As long as its post Drupalcon Copenhagen [no dates set yet, but probably September].

Drupal Camp Clare - Available Dates

Sile's picture

We've just double checked the dates to see was there any way to accommodate Stella and Gary but unfortunately all the other weekends are out due to one thing or another - the college has a lot on during the year and also Summer courses so we're lucky they're able to facilitiate us this particular weekend.

The definite dates for which the Burren College of Art is available for a Drupal Camp Clare is the weekend of Saturday 15th and Sunday 16th May 2010.

If people are happy to go with this, then we'll get cracking on the organisation.

I'm in

alanburke's picture

Sounds like a plan.
In my diary already.
Alan

It sounds great, you should

stella's picture

It sounds great, you should definitely go for it! Don't worry about me :) but you'd better take lots of pictures!

If you need any help / advice organising the event let me know. I'll be at the Dublin meetup tomorrow if you're around, so we can talk about it more then too.

Thanks Stella!

Sile's picture

Won't be at the meet up tomorrow but Conor will be, so it'd be great to get your advice.

Yay! I'm so very excited. I

heather's picture

Yay! I'm so very excited.

I haven't been to the Burren in 15 years!

This is a super reason to go as well.

See you all then, then!

~ h

Close this thread? Start a new one!

heather's picture

Conorc and Sile, feel free to start a new thread! This one is long and has fulfilled it's purpose in helping to decide where the next event is... So you go ahead and make the announcement :)

Hi Heather

No Drupal Camp for Dun Laoghaire

Mr-Fabulous's picture

Sincere apologies to everyone for the long silence. The autumn months up to December were hectic at work and my evening course in Cyberpsychology took up the remainder of my time. The Blue Cube at The Institute of Art, Design and Technology, Dun Laoghaire, fell through simply on the basis that numbers were further limited by fire regulations and there was always the prospect of having to look for sponsorship. I obtained a contact number for the main college but they too seem to close on Sundays so I didn't pursue them yet, not being very optomistic. Senior College Dun Laoghaire are another possible venue which I shall try once I've got my course studies out of the way.

In the meantime Clare sounds great and hopefully I'll make it.

Cheers,

David

No worries

alanburke's picture

There will be more Drupalcamps in the future.
It sounds like you are keen to bring the event to Dun Laoghaire, so keep plugging away, and I'm sure you'll get a venue sorted eventually.

It would be great to have the venues/dates for the next Drupalcamp arranged well in advance, so we could annouce the at the upcoming camp.

Hopefully Heather[Sligo] or Garyh[Dublin] or yourself might be able to announce something at the Burren Drupalcamp.

Interestingly, IBM have come on board with OSS barcamp
http://www.ossbarcamp.com/2010/02/16/were-back-and-with-some-news/

Alan

Ireland

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