Posted by chachasikes on March 25, 2010 at 10:04pm
webchick had a good idea about doing another BoF at DrupalCon San Francisco like we did at Boston in 2008.
What about this idea?
Maybe we could meet up earlier in the conference, earlier in the morning before a lunch. We could break into groups of 20-30 women, and go round/introduce ourselves and have a group discussion. Then, we could eat lunch. People who have to go to sessions that conflict with the BoF could come to lunch. If we announce early on, people won't have a hard time finding the group.
Just starting this thread to see what people have to say, feel free to squash my idea. :)
Would anyone like to help organize a BoF for Drupalcon?
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Let's Do Lunch!
SF is my first DrupalCon, so I have to do the dorky thing and attend ALL of the sessions. Would love to meet up for lunch. I went to the Denver/Boulder Users Group meeting this week and I was the only chick. :(
+1 for BOF/lunch idea. Since
+1 for BOF/lunch idea. Since there's no lunch at the venue like last year at DCDC we might have to break into smaller groups for lunch (unless someone knows a place that can accommodate all of us). And I'm glad we have that problem!
Sounds great!
I like the idea of doing a BoF + lunch; it seems like we didn't have enough time to hang out in Paris when we just met up for lunch.
How does Tuesday from 11-12 work for everyone? (I might be a little biased because I really want to go to the "Theming with Fusion" session on Monday 11-12 :)
If you need any other help organizing just let me know!
Good idea. Definitely think
Good idea. Definitely think it should be better announced and planned ahead of time so more people know of it (even those not in this group).
TenaMurphy, I almost went to
TenaMurphy, I almost went to DBUG this week, but didn't want to get caught out in the storm. I usually go to the Boulder ones, but if you tell me you are going to the Denver one, I'll make an extra effort to go. Would love to meet other Drupalchix around here.
I like the BOF/Lunch idea also. Tuesday works for me.
Small "problem"...
We have a small "problem" with the proposed idea (which is otherwise a totally great plan) in that I don't think there are any timeslots on the schedule where a woman is not presenting. :) And definitely not in the 11 - 12 slot:
Monday 11 - 12: Liza Kindred (I think I'll be there too), Stephanie Pakrul
Tuesday 11 - 12: Rain Breaw
Wednesday 11 - 12: Jennifer Hodgdon, Deborah Fuzetto
Tuesday generally seems good, but .... I don't want to presume to speak for her, but since Rain Breaw helped organize a Drupalchix meetup at Drupalcamp LA, I'm willing to bet she would be super bummed to miss this at Drupalcon. :(
As a random side-note, TenaMurphy, DON'T DO THAT! :) While the sessions at Drupalcon are generally great, and you get tons of good info from hearing the people who built the modules/themes you're using talking about them, the "real" Drupalcon experience IMO is in the hallways and BoF (birds of a feather - random ad-hoc sesions with 5-20 people) rooms, where you can talk more one-on-one with people in the community. Also the sprint days, where there are coding projects, documentation initiatives, design stuff, testing, you name it. While the sessions will all be available online a few weeks (or sometimes months ;)) after the conference, there's no way to make up for those real life interactions after the fact.
So try and pick at least one timeslot per day when you have nowhere special to be and can just wander around and meet fun and interesting people. :)
Alternatives - lunch then BoF
// Pick meet up place b4 lunch.
// Pick several food places ahead of time, which will allow groups of 6-12.
// Announce plan before Drupalcon.
// Break into lunch groups.
// Eat lunch.
// Reconvene for BoF.
// BoF in pre-planned meeting space, also announced before Drupalcon and at conference prominently.
Possible slot...
2:45 PM - 3:45 PM on Tuesday. I don't spot any obvious chix names then.
Unfortunately, this is not immediately before/after a lunch or dinner (or at least I assume there'll be a keynote sometime between 12:00 and 2:45pm). However, at Drupalcon DC and Paris both we tried to do the initial "meet and greet" during lunch and it was really chaotic (and also kind of weird... sitting off over in a corner by ourselves away from everyone else).
So what if we did the actual "session" scheduled for that time, and then we do _________ that evening as a follow-up activity? :)
OK What about THIS PLAN?
yes - the meet and greet during lunch was most definitely chaotic: just hard to find everyone while also figuring out what we all want to do & also trying to figure out the logistics of lunch at the same time.
So... what about THIS NEW PLAN (DRAFT!)
A. Monday: Welcome Wagon Lunch: With an Official Meeting Spot and Time
Audience: Any Drupalchix, including those very new to Drupalcon, who wants to find some people to have lunch with. Drupalchix are welcome to bring their non-Drupalchix buddies, cause lets face it - some of our Drupalchix supportive guy friends are pretty awesome and amazing friends.
Goal: Meet up and eat lunch.
This would NOT be meant to be THE meeting, but an informal opportunity to meet some friendly faces & new people to sit with at sessions.
Approach: Pick a few lunch spot options ahead of time.
Tell everyone to not be late, we will leave promptly only 5 minutes after the pre-announced departure time! Since we need to eat! We could TWEET/MAKE A SIGN about where we went, or sudden changes upon learning that the restaurant has a 45 minute wait. Make sure people know to watch their Twitter for announcements about changes to the Plan.
B. Offical Drupalchix BoF (Tues 2:45-3:45)
This is the real Drupalchix meeting, scheduled so that presenting Drupalchix can attend.
Audience: Drupalchix! Yay!
Goal: Say Yay!
Approach: Jump up and down!
(jk, we can work out those details later)
C. Tuesday Drupalchix Happy Hour
Audience: Drupalchix and their Trusty Sidekicks!
Goal: Socialize! Drinks, non-alcoholic drinks, and blood-sugar-level raising Appetizers!
Place TBD.
Time: Does about an hour after conference ends sound good? People who need to eat can go right there and hang out. Social stragglers have a whole entire hour to wrap up the chittery-chat and mosey-on-over to the Bar.
Yay!
That sounds awesome to me. :D
More options
Or... BoF / lunch , BoF / lunch (two bofs on two different days)
Or
BoF / drink ( go to bar / pre dinner snacks )
Or
bof .... Then the Lexington! (ok no but hey why not throw that plan out there ;) )
( btw osento no longer exists for those who might have been interested in the Paris bathhouse adventure which, btw, fell through. )
Time + Nitty gritty
Tuesday 2:45 BOF sounds perfecto to me. I'm not sure if I will be able to make all of the other bits and pieces (will do my best!) but I will absolutely be at the BOF and that time is great.
I'd personally really like to keep the whole group together for at least part of the BOF (though if the group is ginormous, we can certainly break up into smaller circles for more discussions), and try and set a tone for the space that is very private and safe - a la infamous DC Boston BOF (where we had a closed room that made it easy to talk openly). It's really important that attendees get the opportunity to talk about things at this BOF that normally don't get discussed in more "public" venues.
Then the social meetup(s) can be more funtimes getting to know each other, etc. :-)
The question of "are boys allowed?" has come up a couple times and will inevitably keep coming up - we talked about this a bit on IRC, and I'd like to propose that for the BOF itself, we go gals-only. It really does change the dynamic, and what some people feel safe talking about, when there are men present. As for the socials, I think it's fine for any members of the Drupalchix Solidarity Committee and Allied Auxiliary Service (as @bangpound termed our male allies) to come join us.
Thoughts? Can't wait to see you all!
Would it be possible to have
Would it be possible to have two Drupalchix formal BOFs? I have to say, the thought of the only formal BOF for Drupalchix being gender exclusionary bothers me a great deal. While I do think it's a good idea to have a BOF that's female only where women can come and discuss things they might not otherwise discuss openly with the male population, but I also think that there would be some excellent discussions arising out of having a Drupalchix BOF that welcomed all genders.
Talking in a closed room about our challenges might make us feel better for awhile, but a more formal discussion than one had over dinner and beer ought to be brought to the wider community as well, in my opinion.
Go for it
Personally, the role of the BOF isn't anything about "making us feel better". It's about being able to get support from each other in terms of career advice, encouragement on how to speak up in the larger community (as many women still feel like it can be a bit of a boys club in any tech arenas), and talk through difficult issues that don't normally get any airspace.
If you feel like a separate BOF discussing gender issues with the greater community would be valuable, I'd say go for it. Set a time, publicize, and see who turns up.
estimation/logistics
how many people could potentially come? 60-90?
I asked how big the BoF rooms are: http://sf2010.drupal.org/community/forum/bof-sessions#comment-20863
We don't need AV equipment, right?
Also, I asked if we need to make a reservation...we shall see.
notes from the BoF organizing page:
"There will be 8 rooms designated for BoFs.
Three of them will have AV equipment."
http://sf2010.drupal.org/community/forum/bof-sessions (I posted a link there to this thread)
more event planning
I like the overall plan is to have different kinds of opportunities for people to meet each other and also attend all the other great sessions at Drupalcon seems good. Not all eggs in one basket. Since there are a bunch of ideas - if people are interested in any event, perhaps we should start signing up to be responsible to help coordinate the meetups when we are actually at the conference? Maybe just add a comment on this thread and go from there?
Signing up to be responsible
Here is a list of all potential events/activities mentioned so far:
1. Welcome Lunch
2. BoF
3. Happy Hour
4. Community Drupalchix BoF
5. Report back
6. Make list of activities & meeting places public ahead of time
Ideas from LA Drupalcamp
I was so inspired by what I read about the LA Drupalchix Track for the LA Drupalcamp. I like that they were taking a positive approach to the conference overall, especially regarding having women give technical presentations. And it seems like there are lots of women presenting at Drupalcon - so that's awesome. Check!
I really like that the LA DrupalCamp website actually had a button all about the Drupalchix track. http://2009.drupalcampla.com/drupalchix
Also, they had this thing where they took anonymous questions. They reported back to the community: http://2009.drupalcampla.com/drupalchix/panel/questions
I like arianek's idea about an open/free lots of people discussion. I like the idea of a safe space & also an undiluted conversation in which we can hear from many voices.
The LA Drupalcamp was more like a panel discussion, and they even had it audiotaped! Obviously not every Drupalchix can go to Drupalcon... I am sure we want a free safe space to talk about whatever we want -- but should we think about finding ways to share anything back with the Drupal community? Keeping in mind the main BoF is only 1 hour. There are probably a bunch of options - blog about it, have notetakers... perhaps we can brainstorm ideas now & suggest them as options at the BoF.
I could see a more open-to-the-community BoF as a meeting that could potentially offer suggestions back to the community & also share some information from other communities. I think that having actionable items for our community is good. If I am interpreting her right, nikkiana is maybe saying that meeting with the whole community is a way to address the concerns and really make positive improvements in the long run.
Can genderqueer butches attend?
Hey all! I'm psyched to catch up with the Drupalchix BoF planning, but after reading a few mentions of the BoF being "gals-only" or "women-only" I felt the need to ask whether genderqueer butches like myself can also attend.
I've got a feeling that the answer will be "yes, of course!" - or at least I hope that's the answer! But I'm asking because inclusion of people who don't necessarily self-ID as gals, women, ladies, "chix," etc, if it is indeed meant, should be made explicit, even if it takes more time or thought or necessitates less shortcuts.
Your friendly neighborhood gender gadfly,
Jack
yes of course!
Thanks Jackaponte!
I hovered over the keyboard trying to think of how to bring it up (on more than one occasion) I've seen transfolk get burnt by 'women-only' spaces and I would like to avoid that since, especially at this time, in Drupal we need a super inclusive safe space to raise important issues. I know that a lot of us are pretty upset about recent developments in Drupal and definitely need to not feel isolated and need each other's support.
So yes please come!!! All transfolk, all Drupalbois, DrupalDykes, genderqueers, intersex, butches, femmes, all yoga-loving ladies, moms, all girly-girls, webgrrls, women...the list goes on.
I don't think the point of Drupalchix is to fragment the community - but rather to find allies and give one another support. Too many of us work in isolation without access to people with similar experiences. That is why this group is powerful, we can meet one another and form new alliances and friendships. But the 'drupalchix' part is also awkward at the same time. I think the goal is to not NEED to have a special group, but we all suffer from sexism in technology - and meeting one another will help make a better, more safe & secure place to do our Drupal work. Cause we love our Drupal!!
And while I'm at it: Drupalchix will be a safe space with zero tolerance of hate, sexism, homophobia, racism... (Hoping and assuming that we would all agree to this.) It would be nice to have an official statement on that (if we don't already.) I only have a little bit of experience organizing inclusive groups, so any helpful advice is welcome! In the past the Drupalchix have been good listeners - and I assume that this will continue. There have been some almost violent/abusive/dismissive behaviors lately in Drupal - and I don't want that to ever happen in Drupalchix. Just sayin'
I say: if you have need for a supportive space to talk about issues of inclusion & support in your open source career, please come to this BoF - if there is need for breakout groups...we have an hour. We will hopefully have a big room and can figure out how to use the space and time wisely. (If anyone thinks that will be a logistical nightmare...stop me now and please offer your alternative idea.)
The BoF room entrance can be a place for male-identified allies to meet if they want to form their own group about what they can do. (I know nikkiana mentioned organizing a larger community discussion - I think several people are talking about this and figuring out what to do. If I see any threads related to that I will definitely post it on this thread in giant
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Also, I am open to suggestions on how to make the Drupalchix space comfortable and welcoming. Privately and publicly. :)
ps. Jackaponte we need more organizers!! ;) (if you aren't busy. we're all so busy.)
Be a little cautious with this line of thinking...
(Note: I'm not sure this is what you actually said, but I could see it being construed that way, so wanted to respond in advance just in case.)
My goal with this group is and always has been to get more women* involved in the larger Drupal community, to help educate the larger Drupal community about gender issues so that the culture of the larger Drupal community is more welcoming to women (and by proxy all new contributors, really), and to give women a safe space to discuss issues that affect their work in the larger Drupal community. To that end, I support keeping the BoF to women only, especially given the tensions around recent events (I'm totally am on board with someone organizing a more general BoF around sexism for the larger community too, though).
However, if Drupalchix goes beyond that, to the level where it's creating some kind of "sub" community where we "do our Drupal work" in isolation of the rest of the community, I think this does much more harm than good. Not only to the project itself (what would Drupal be without all the women who are out there kicking ass?!), but also to our primary goals. It won't help any women coming into the community down the road if the culture of the Drupal community is hostile to women, and all the women doing cool stuff are doing so in some corner somewhere. (I don't actually believe the Drupal community is hostile to women, mind you, but I want to keep it that way.)
Note that this spiel might sound familiar to anyone who's asked my opinion about separate communities for designers, usability experts, or any other "minorities" in our community. My fundamental belief is that we are stronger a diverse whole, working to raise the collective bar of tolerance/intelligence/etc. for the entire community (not that it's always easy...), and working away off in silos is directly counter to that. I have strong opinions on this topic. ;)
* "Women" throughout this post is a handy shortcut for everything chach said; basically, the most inclusive definition possible. You are more than welcome there, jackaponte. :)
Clarification! work = 'work in larger community'
i see how that could be confused - thx webchick
i was trying to say what you were saying. you are much better at it! :)
oops
thought i was posting this on the main event thread.
i'll see what, if anything ppl have to say on this thread - then update the other page.
i second what chach said,
i second what chach said, that's why i was trying to dodge around saying "women" by saying gals ;-) (i've always found womyn a little too "activist" language-wise, and couldn't come up with a more inclusive term!).
anyway, yes, of course OF COURSE you are welcome!
and in response to webchick's comments, i totally agree. drupalchix is another user group we have where everyone has something in common, just like a user group where we have our hometown in common. sure, it serves different purposes, and i might socialize more with drupalchix members and in my local irc channels... but definitely, this should be a way to introduce women into the larger community and support each others' activity in the larger group.
excited to see this!
I'm sorry I'm a late-comer to this thread - was deep in a site launch. webchick is totally right, I'd be bummed to miss out. :) I'm sorry I'm so maxed out right now - would love to help with the planning.
A couple of two-cents from the drupalcampla experience:
Not quite sure how to word this without seeming confrontational, which is not my intention, but... being "gals"/"women"/"etc." only in the BoF is probably a good idea, as it actually enables the group to talk more about working in the broader community and helping each other grow than about gender itself. It is sad, however, to leave out those of our male colleagues who would like to attend.
Lunch is really tough. Everyone has a million things going on, and if there isn't one place that is easy to get to quickly, it can end up being more of a time sink and less of a networking opportunity. Love the "happy hour" idea :)
For those of us who are more early risers, I'd potentially be interested in a morning coffee at one of the hotels. I'll be at the Westin - I'm sure there is an area there where coffee can be acquired, or at least where we could sit with coffee. Give me a few days to figure out my schedule and, if this sounds interesting to some of you, I'll plan to figure out a place to just "be" with coffee and sunshine one morning from around 7:30-8:15...
The more the better, right?
Thanks for doing this, chach.
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nice idea
keep us posted on your coffee idea. i will be sound asleep. :(
regarding lunch: lunch is from 12 noon to 1:30 -- with keynotes being at 1:30 - so really lunch will have to be quick quick quick if people are going to get good seats for the keynotes.
This is the page w/ the restaurants:
http://sf2010.drupal.org/logistics/coffee-and-food
Everything in SOMA (south of market) is spread out & it will be lunch rush. I think what we should do (and it will be packed, mind you) is ppl go obtain food - and then TRY to meet in yerba buena gardens, weather permitting. that is close to the conference, and people can focus on getting whatever lunch they can get to -- and all the waiting would happen in the park..which will be pleasant , social and digestively responsible :P
it isn't much of a welcome, and some people will get lost in the process i am certain, but it is probably the most realistic offering.
but i still feel this plan is kind of nuts & fatally flawed.
pick exact place in park ahead of time/twitter updates.... i will keep thinking about it.
i'm just certain timewise that it would be futile to try to meet in the conference center and then get lunch and then find a place in the park. that would take the full 1.5 hours!
sounds like a good plan
Your lunch plan sounds about as good as it can get without a formal dedicated space that actually has food there :) Here's hoping the weather is great!
As an aside - I got to take a few minutes to look over the sessions today, and I'm extremely excited! Not only are there a ton of great sessions, but there are also a ton of great sessions being presented by drupalchix!
Will definitely keep you posted on progression with the coffee idea.
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Weather seems nice, I will
Weather seems nice, I will see you all at the Yerba Buena gardens today! (that is still the plan right?)
Yep - lunch today
We will meet up about 20 min into the 'lunch time' -- (so go get your lunch)
then rendezvous in the yerba buena gardens park that is across the street from the convention center. For the sake of simplicity - let's meet up in the park closer to the convention center. Not sure where exactly that would be or what it would look like, but hopefully that will allow us to all find each other.
we will leave in time to get over to the convention center for keynotes.
Early riser here, also at the Westin
Hi rainbreaw, Early coffee sounds great. I'm at the Westin, too. Any mornin'll do!
Best, Marilyn
since there is coffee interest
Let's try to do something on Wednesday morning? I'm planning to attend the "You Shall Not Pass" session at 8:30am, so what about a coffee meetup in the Mascone center at 7:50am?
So: Drupachix coffee meetup (bring your own coffee!) in Mascone at 7:50am on Wed - let's meet by the doors at the corner of Market & Third, since that's bright, pretty, and has seats.
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Wednesday sounds good
See you then, along with anyone else who's interested.
Best, Marilyn
audiotaping the BoF
I have confirmed with my boyfriend (he's a sound designer) that I can borrow is little mobile audio recorder again for DrupalCon -- if we want to audio-tape the BoF as we did the panel at drupalcampla.
Of course, I did spend a fair amount of time editing the drupalcampla audio down, and we should do the same this time if we do audio tape it in order to ensure that people can speak freely and ask to have some material removed if necessary -- so no promises on how quickly the audio would become available post-con. :)
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happy hour planning
So, I saw on the drupalcon website that the tuesday night party is here:
"Tuesday, April 20th
Unwind with a game of billiards and a bite to eat at Jillians located next door to the Moscone Center.
101 4th Street #1070
San Francisco, CA 94103"
I was chatting with my friend floatleft, and we were reminiscing about how people are once they get their free drink tickets in their hands...so the happy hour will not be very far from the main drupal party so that people can redeem their drink tickets (assuming there are drink tickets)
That said, I am googling-away & sharing my research:
My top choices for places to have the DrupalChix Happy Hour:
Zebulon http://www.zebulonsf.com/drink.html - close to the conference center, with fancy cocktails. they have appetizers and a happy hour -- so much cheaper. 83 Natoma Street. (Off of 2nd & Mission)
Zeitgeist: a beloved hipster-biker bar - 199 Valencia Street - lots of outdoor tables & food (a short cab/bus ride down the street from the convention center. i recommend transit, it is sort of a yucky, confusing walk from the convention center.) Tends towards crowding.
What do you think? I am going to vote for Zebulon - but I will call and see what would happen in 50 people showed up. Is 50 a good guesstimate?
This Happy Hour is DrupalChix + buddies. I honestly have no idea.
more fun things
i got carried away with making a list of things to do and other places to go.
That list lives here. I put a bunch of things that might be fun for people who are not from San Francisco, but want to do things that the locals do.
http://www.chachaville.com/content/places-fun-san-francisco
ooh no
saw a bad review for zebulon...looking for another option near the convention center.
maybe the marsbar
these people seem nice and it's closer than zeitgeist, good looking drinks, happy hour food ... they have outdoor patio ... decent reviews on yelp, and no moldy bread.
Mars Bar
Neighborhood: SOMA
798 Brannan Street
(between Gilbert St & 7th St)
San Francisco, CA 94103
http://www.marsbarsf.com/
I am emailing the party organizer to see about reservations....
going to say 50 people...wish i had a way of knowing how many people would come...but i don't!
OR...we could do this...
I was thinking about this last night and have a new idea:
Have the DrupalChix Happy Hour @ the main Drupal afterparty on Tuesday (which will be at Jillian's. When? ... I do not know.) People can just meet up, we can pick a point of contact.
I think having a point of contact at the main event might be nice - and it is easy and convenient.
Also, it's too hard to pick another bar not knowing how many people might come
For those who like to stay up late, we can go somewhere else later on (in smaller independently organized groups) - MarsBar, Hotel Utah, The Eagle, Butter...there are a bunch of places in SOMA. There are many many opportunities. I know I will research some options beforehand.
Any objections/concerns?
Group Photo
on IRC yesterday we talked about the group photo, which we have done for the last 2 years
If people really do want to do a group photo - the best time and place to do this will be after the Drupalchix BoF. We should try to be speedy...I think it will take under 10 minutes if we are really efficient & focused.
I don't think we should try to do this at another time & especially not after the main group photo - since that will be 3000 people moving in a herd...the most of us will be together at the BoF.
Personally, I wouldn't want this to eat into our discussion time - but some Drupalchix may have to leave. So - perhaps we could try to do the photo 5 minutes before our BoF time is up...and then run over 5 minutes.
So -- photographers please bring cameras! I am not bringing my camera except my crappy iPhone camera. I will post a tweet about this in the next day or so, to remind people when they are packing.
Sound OK?
Time?
Just to clarify this would mean on Tuesday around 3.40pm? I'm not sure how long we have for BOF sessions.
pix during the last 5-10 minutes of the BoF
We will take the picture at the end of the BoF, trying to take the picture at the very last minute possible before people have to run away to the next session.
I just looked at the session list, looks like the Tim O'Reilly keynote goes until 2:45, and the sessions are from 3-4pm, with the next sessions beginning at 4:15.
So...in that case, we would probably talk in a heated manner up until 3:55 and then try to do a picture really fast so that people can leave to go to the next session.
sound recording and camera
I will have my boyfriend's mobile sound recording device so that we can record our heated discussion (as we did for the drupalchix track at drupalcampla 2009). It's already packed, since I leave town tomorrow early AM for other reasons.
I will also have my professional still camera and a tripod with me, which has a time delay, and so volunteer to be the photographer if one hasn't already stepped forward.
As others have said, thank you! for organizing this.
p.s. not sure I'll be moving forward with the super-early breakfast idea... I think I was being overly ambitious. My apologies to anyone who was thinking it was a good idea.
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and also....
For anyone worried about the sound being recorded: when I did this for drupalcampla I edited the session a lot. The session was an hour and a half. The audio file, which can be found on the www.drupalcampla.com, was under 30 minutes.
But also, I removed every comment that any person at the session requested I remove, and I promise to do the same this time around, as well.
This way, we don't have to worry about what is being said, and the audio file can just be pared down to the useful highlights if we want to do so.
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that sounds good
thanks for bringing/packing stuff!
:)
hey, i made it to SF sickness
hey,
i made it to SF sickness be damned! planning to be at the con again tomorrow afternoon and make the bof, can't wait to catch up with you all!
sorry just catching up here, but what is the idea re: recording the bof? i feel like that's really going to infringe on the "safe" atmosphere, ie. people might heavily censor themselves knowing they are being recorded, which is what we've been trying to avoid this whole time!
totally understand
Regarding recording the bof: I totally understand if the group doesn't want it recorded. I'll have the equipment with me just in case, leaving it as an option. Definitely okay with not recording, as that means I don't have to edit the recording later! :)
That said, the reason I thought of it and am bringing the equipment is because we did it at drupalcampla, and having the recording afterwards proved valuable for many. You can hear the recording here:http://2009.drupalcampla.com/drupalchix/panel/questions (you'll need to scroll down a bit for the links to the various files).
These files are heavily edited, and if we do end up deciding to record, this would be heavily edited as well. I have long since deleted all of the material from the drupalcampla recording that I was requested to delete, so it will never be heard outside of that session.
I will, should we decide to record the bof, commit to the same for this one: if anyone requests that anything they said not be in the released file, it will be removed and deleted, never to be heard again.
I will also be editing out pauses, anything that doesn't seem useful as we transition from topic to topic. The idea would be a clip of highlights only of the stuff people felt comfortable about.
Either way, I'll have the equipment. If I shouldn't turn it on, no worries at all. Happy to have less work to do afterwards ;)
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yay!
OMG! OMG! OMG! Can't wait to see you!
We can offer the recording to the group & let folks say/vote how they feel (briefly! :P).
I listened to the recording they made for LA Drupalcamp - which was really smart and well-done. The speakers had some ideas that were really valuable, even at a distance. However, folks who come to the BoF might not have time to listen to it...which is sad, but realistic. Also, I believe that the LA Drupalcamp was framed as a panel to begin with - which is totally different in context than the BoF.
Anyhow, props to Rain for bringing the equipment and giving this to us as an option. :)
OK! gotta pay attention to sessions now!
CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOU ALL!
I am interested in attending
I am interested in attending this BOF and the happy hour so I will be keeping track of this thread and/or any other info there is about it out there. Thanks to the organizers, you rock!!!
Super shy but super interested
I'm super shy and a little anti-social, but I'm going. YES I must go and meet everyone. (I hope I don't scare you with my shyness.)
looking forward to meeting you!
and don't worry - we are very nice. :)
move the BoF on Tuesday to 3pm?
Are we settled on the BoF on Tuesday at 3.40? That means we will miss both the sessions at 3pm and 4.15pm .. :(
Could we start BoF earlier, at 3pm?
Or what is everyone planning to do for after the Tuesday's keynotes that end at 2.45pm ?
Kasia
Ingore me
Just ignore me, I just found the proper time (2.45pm on Tuesday) on another post - event I actually signed up for a long time ago. So for anyone else who got here and is confused what and when in regards to BoF for Drupalchix: http://groups.drupal.org/node/58878
Room 262 3:00-4:00
The BoF will be in room 262 from 3:00-4:00
(know I put 2:45...that was before the conference schedules gelled together)
Can't wait to see everyone!
(AND! I have a bunch of Drupalchix stickers to give out!)