DrupalCamp Colorado 2010 June 26th and 27th

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coltrane's picture
Start: 
2010-06-26 (All day) - 2010-06-27 (All day) UTC
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Drupalcamp or Regional Summit

DrupalCamp Colorado will be Saturday, June 26th and Sunday, June 27th this year in Denver, CO on the Auraria Higher Education Center campus in downtown Denver.

DrupalCamp Colorado is a great resource to learn more about Drupal and engage and collaborate with others. The event has grown each year and we expect no different this time.

We'll be sending out updates on the event via several channels, so be sure to stay tuned for the launch of the website and more details.

This group: http://groups.drupal.org/denverboulder-colorado-user-group-dbug
Twitter: http://twitter.com/drupalcolorado

Update: The site is live at http://drupalcampcolorado.org

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DC CO not June 12/13

coltrane's picture

Sorry everyone, but we hadn't locked in the dates completely. The conference dates are back to being discussed. Please watch this space for further updates.

registration site and agenda

rdahiya's picture

Hi coltrane,

Any idea when the registration site with the agenda for the two days of this camp will go live?

rdahiya

its live

coltrane's picture

Hi rdahiya,

I'm sorry we didn't update this post! The site is live at http://drupalcampcolorado.org

The schedule for the event will be finalized next week, act now to vote for the sessions you'd like to see.

Drupalcamp Dates: June 26 and 27th

greggles's picture

Hey folks!

We finalized the dates. It is now the 26th and 27th of June.

We've got strong interest from lots of the same great Drupal community presenters who made last year such a great event and are hoping to get 300 attendees this year!

If you have suggestions on people who you really want to see come speak...send them an invite or mention them in a comment here.

Drupalcamp

larsdesigns's picture

Howdy!

This is going to be the best Drupalcamp Colorado ever! I am looking forward to the great sessions.

I would like to invite Peter Kiraly to speak about the Extensible Catalog XC Drupal Toolkit.

Extensible Catalog XC Drupal Toolkit

mossj's picture

I would 2nd that idea! I too would be very interested in this topic.

Working on it

chx's picture

Given that the Clarity HQ is in Denver I believe I will have no problems getting there.

community check-in for pricing/funding/costs and WiFi

greggles's picture

We had a wonderful sprint yesterday to work on the camp site. The design is strong, the content is great, we built it using features which lets us contribute it back as part of the COD install profile.

But of course there came a moment when we created the product node in Ubercart: what is the cost of the camp?

Jon Clark and I put on our financial analysis hats and did some work. We based the spreadsheet on real numbers from previous years updated to match some known costs and estimated attendees from this year. Here are the important details.

I'd love to get feedback as to whether this feels like a reasonable structure.

  • We plan to get about 50% of revenue from attendees and 50% from sponsors. This has been a goal of other camps/cons and it feels pretty good as a balancing point. We reviewed the list of sponsors from last year, the list of folks interested for this year and we feel like we can hit those numbers on fundraising.
  • The camp will cost about $23,000 for about 320 people. That's $70 per person though the marginal cost of adding one more person is about $50.
  • We want to keep the camp extremely affordable to help reduce the barriers to entry for the price-sensitive members of our community. And for planning reasons it's best if we get people to sign up early. So, we propose a ticket price of $20 for the first 50 tickets, $30 for the next 150 tickets, and $50 for anyone who buys a ticket in the last week. There would also be an "individual sponsor" price at $75 which includes a t-shirt. All camp sponsors would get t-shirts for people included in their sponsorship.
  • The big cost (70%!) of the budget goes toward food! We got a great deal on the venue but have to use campus catering which limits our ability to get creative on food options. We also heard the feedback from last year that sending people off-site didn't work for lunch. So, all of our projections are based on the idea that we have to provide lunch for everyone. We also budgeted for coffee/tea.
  • For financial flexibility (in case the number of attendees isn't where we think it will be, and/or sponsorships don't materialize as we plan) we can just reduce the food by eliminating coffee, eliminating lunch one day, etc.

We are still finalizing the sponsor benefits and Jon is in charge of that so he'll post on it for feedback when it's done (probably "soon").

Wifi

One other important note: the WiFi on campus is pretty good (it handles the students, after all). But anecdotally from students the coverage is not perfect in all parts of all the classrooms. We did a campus visit to see all the classrooms and walked around inside the room doing downloads/uploads to see if we could get a consistent signal. It worked well in those simple tests, but we hope people will either be forgiving or offer to get involved now to find solutions. Campuses are not known for doing things quickly so we need a volunteer to step up now if they are interested in this.

sign up?

shelly80504's picture

The pricing sounds pretty reasonable to me. In fact at those prices I'd agree to "sponsor". Just tell me when and where to sign-up and I'm in!

Sounds Great!

ccat's picture

Remind me... which campus? Auraria/Tivoli? I know you've mentioned it but I'm not finding it this morning.

The financial strategy sounds very reasonable, especially the tiered ticket pricing. IMHO, the offsite lunches work well if you're in an area with lots of options (e.g., the Moscone Center in San Francisco), and less well if you have just a couple of options nearby (e.g., the PPA). If we'll be in downtown Denver I'd be happy to walk somewhere for lunch and bypass the campus dining monopoly. Please don't skip coffee. :)

Yeah, I'm dittoing ccat's

jcfiala's picture

Yeah, I'm dittoing ccat's comment - if there's food nearby, offsite lunches are great -but as nice as the venue was last year in general, it didn't have good nearby lunch options. How good is the food at this campus?

That said, the general pricing structure sounds good - I might change it to $30/person for the first 200 people - I can't imagine that $10 is that much of a difference for folks attending the camp. That said, it's a bit moot for me, as I'm feeling like going the Individual sponsor route. :)

-john

food is consistently a catch 22

greggles's picture

When it's provided we get complaints that it's too expensive and that the quality is bad. When it's off-site we get complaints that it's too hard to find a venue, eat, and return in time. I got a mail from Nina at the Library saying that in her experience of running events on campus there is just not enough time to send people outside, but I'm open to investigation.

The general location is more or less 1200 larimer.

I think SF handled this by letting folks choose whether they wanted to eat on site or off since that exposed the ridiculous prices and put people in control of their destiny. Perhaps we can/should do the same?

I'm not sure if any of our food vendors can handle variable numbers like that or not...John, Corey, Steve, you just volunteered to be in charge of investigating and recommending a food solution ;) Look in your inboxes.

Could we make on-site lunches

protitude's picture

Could we make on-site lunches an optional service or would that add too much overhead to keep track of? That way people have the choice of using the catered lunch, bringing their own, or venturing out to get something somewhere else. And we can give them a warning that if they decide to get lunch somewhere else they may end up coming back late. Just an idea...

In the same way you check people into the conference they could come and get their lunches and you check them off on a list of people who paid for their lunch.

Lunch restaurants are

laura s's picture

Lunch restaurants are probably an 8-9 min walk from the venue, going by the Google map linked from 1200 Larimer. Crossing Speer is the pita, but there are a ton of options on the 16th St. mall.

There also are (or were a few years ago) two or three eateries by the Tivoli, which is much closer I believe.

fwiw....

Laura Scott
PINGV | Strategy • Design • Drupal Development

yeah, the Tivoli food court

garbanzito's picture

yeah, the Tivoli food court looks like an easy default option if we don't cater all the lunches

http://www.tivoli.org/food/tivoli.html

16th street mall is probably a bit far for most people (over 1/4 mile before you get to its better eateries, but we could list some of those for the intrepid)

closer, Larimer and Market have several options between 14th & 15th, and we're considering guiding folks who don't settle for the Tivoli food court over there in groups to keep things social and efficient

a few of us have volunteered to chew on the plan offline (catering is still an option); we are watching feedback here too

Which campus?

sethlbrown's picture

Cost sounds totally reasonable. Looking forward to it, just wondering about the venue.

Seth Brown
Lullabot
970.618.5370

Auraria

coltrane's picture

Hi, it's on the Auraria Higher Education Center campus

great analysis, thanks!

garbanzito's picture

my two cents:

  1. $50 could be a psychological barrier to latecomers (although it may act as a psychological incentive for early registration)
  2. i cringe a bit at the food cost and my own low expectations for food quality -- would organized excursions for off-site food plus a 90-minute minimum lunch break could make the difference? i'll volunteer to work on the off-site food planning if it is deemed workable

how much of the food budget is for coffee/tea?

for those wondering about the venue, it's the Auraria Campus, immediately adjacent to Denver's downtown

http://www.ahec.edu/campusmaps/maps.htm

coffee/tea/snack portion

greggles's picture

The coffee/tea/breakfast snack portion was estimated at $9 per person per day and is 25% of the budget.

My personal selfish opinion

vegantriathlete's picture

I also hate to be forced to pay for food that I don't really want to eat. I'd prefer to bring my own. So, my two cents is that I'd like the registration to include the option of paying for food; I really don't have any interest in the coffee/tea/snacks, either. I'd sooner save that $9/person fee.

I would hypothesize that this

bchoc's picture

I would hypothesize that this view on coffee/tea/snacks is the minority view. Unlike meals which possibly could be easily tracked on an individual basis, I don't think there is any reasonable way to handle an opt-in/opt-out situation regarding coffee/tea/snacks.

vegantriathlete's picture

I have changed the original post I placed here as it is no longer relevant. Registration is open and I made sure to snag one of the $20 slots!

Training before-hand?

jhodgdon's picture

I've been corresponding with Greg K. (greggles) about this event, and may be able to attend (especially if there's a code/doc sprint and/or some hiking involved).

One thing I brought up with him is the possibility of a beginner workshop immediately before-hand. We've done something like this in Seattle once now, and it was quite nice as it freed us up from having to hold beginner-level sessions at the Camp-style event. Two advantages:
- If you offer a full day of beginner sessions during the regular Camp, then the presenters can't attend other sessions they might be interested in.
- Beginners aren't usually ready to get the most out of the rest of the Camp until they've been through a day of indoctrination... er, I mean training.

I have put together a site listing the curriculum we used (needs work for next time!), resources, and other information: http://poplarclass.com And as I mentioned to Greg by email, I might be willing to come the day before and lead a similar workshop. I'm not sure:
- Maybe you have people there interested in leading this type of training?
- Do you have sufficient prospective attendees?
- Space, wifi, etc. in your area -- obviously I'm not local, so someone else would need to arrange that.

We're planning on doing a second workshop in Seattle in June (probably) as well, and plan to charge a small fee this time (the last one was free, but that didn't work out all that well for a variety of reasons).

Thoughts?
- Jennifer

yes!

nadavoid's picture

I would be very interested in leading some of this beginner training. +1 from me. Should we start a new thread to discuss details?

I am also interested in

jcfiala's picture

I am also interested in helping with a beginner training section.

-john

This would be great to have a

protitude's picture

This would be great to have a beginner day. I think in the past we tried to have tracks where there where beginner, intermediate, and advanced sessions going at the same time although I don't know if there were a ton of beginner sessions throughout the camp. Although I would love to help in running a beginner session. I'm not sure, even with beginner training, that beginners would feel comfortable going to the more advanced sessions afterwards. But it would give them a better starting point.

training venue

coltrane's picture

We have some buildings on AHEC for Saturday and Sunday, so along with discussing if there's a training beforehand don't forget to also discuss where :)

Beginner Session and Training Venue

larsdesigns's picture

Depending on the size of the beginner group, it could be possible to reserve a room or two on the campus or perhaps in the Auraria library.

Of course the Auraria campus library is a public library and I would think that people are welcome to meet there for group work and discussions. The WiFi is good and talking is fine on the lower level where there are a good number of tables.

Please contact me by reply if I can be of assistance.

More thoughts...

jhodgdon's picture

It looks like you have local people who want to organize/lead a beginner training session, so I'll just politely get out of the way and let you do that. Again, you may find that http://poplarclass.com is a good resource for planning the event and curriculum (though be sure to read the lessons learned page). Here are a few more thoughts:

  • Venue: Be sure to have a separate, reserved room with good wifi and a projector. I don't know how public libraries are in Denver, but in Seattle they have meeting rooms that you may be able to reserve (well ahead of time! they fill up fast), and you have to bring your own projector.
  • We (Seattle DUG) have decided to charge (probably $20 or so) for the beginner workshop we are doing this year. Reasons: (a) don't want to set a precident for always having free training. (b) want people to think it's valuable. (c) we had lots of people sign up last year apparently just to reserve a space, and many didn't show up on the day of the event, excluding others who had been on the waiting list.
  • Venue again: Because we're charging this year, public spaces that are free are not available to us (such as public library meeting rooms), so we'll have to rent space. Community colleges are looking like the best option -- fairly low-priced, good wifi, set up as classrooms (of course).
  • Planning committee: When we organized our first beginner clinic last year, there were 4 people or so besides me helping with the organization. That was good, as we could parcel out tasks. The web site has a planning spreadsheet (on the Resources page) that may be of help (reminders of what needs to be checked out, planned, and/or brought on the day of the training).
  • Day-of-workshop volunteers: On the day of the workshop, we had several people who came for the day (experienced Drupalers) to help out. That was really key to the success -- when people got behind or had trouble, the leader could keep going while the person having trouble got some personalized help.

Beginner sessions and Auraria Library

ninermac's picture

Hi, all! I'm going to be a first-time attendee, and I'm very interested in a beginner session as well!

I also happen to work at Auraria Library, and I could probably get approval for us to use one of our classroom spaces for just such a session. :) We have two recently refurbished spaces that are MOSTLY open that weekend, one with 34 laptops, and one with 29. The laptops can be put away, too, if we didn't need them--I would imagine that most folks will bring their own--but they are internet-connected. Let me know if this possibility is of interest ASAP, and I can put a hold on one those spaces.

Wifi on campus has had some capacity issues of late, but campus IT has improved this, and hopefully traffic will be low on a weekend in June anyway. :)

Also, just to clarify, Auraria Library ISN'T actually a public library, but we are open to the public. We're often mistaken for being a branch of DPL, but we're the academic library for UC Denver, Metro State, and CCD. :)

Nina

Nina McHale
@ninermac
Developer
Aten Design Group

That would be great!

nadavoid's picture

Hi ninermac,

That would be great if you could reserve a space. I'm uncertain how much space would be needed. I'm pretty sure there would be more than 30 beginners interested in attending, but I'm not sure how many would actually be able to attend an all-day even on a work-day, Friday. Since this is the first time doing a pre-event beginner training at Drupal Camp Colorado, we might want to just go with one room and see whether it fills up, and learn for next year from this experience/experiment. Of course, if anyone else has a sense of how many beginners would be willing to take off work on a Friday and attend this training, please chime in.

If it looks like we will have a much larger number (say, 50 or 60), would it be feasible to reserve both rooms and have separate trainings going on simultaneously? I suppose they could either be covering pretty much the same topics or they could be a little more segmented. Thoughts?

I like jhodgdon's suggestion of charging a minimal fee for the beginner training. I'm thinking in the neighborhood of $10 to $20. This could go toward the cost of running the camp, reserving the rooms, and possibly contributing any extra to the Drupal Association. What do you all think?

jhodgdon, are you planning on coming? And please don't back out of the conversation. We need your voice of experience!

beginner sessions

ninermac's picture

Whoops, I misunderstood that notion of having the beginner session as sort of a preconference on Friday. :) Unfortunately, the two library classrooms are already booked! I tentatively reserved one for Saturday--the other is only available in the afternoon--and right now, they're both available Sunday. And one of them can seat up to about 50 comfortably if not everyone needs a computer. We could prolly find a suitable room for Friday in the North Classroom or another building, but they would charge you, whereas the Library would not.

My two bits on the other stuff: I'd take off work for a Friday workshop, and I wouldn't mind paying for it. $10-$20 seems very reasonable, and professional tech conferences at the national level charge extra for this kind of workshop.

Nina McHale
@ninermac
Developer
Aten Design Group

At the very least, we can

laura s's picture

At the very least, we can make an effort to schedule the beginner-level sessions during the camp in an order so that the conceptual, first steps kinds of stuff come before the now-we-can-start-really-digging-in kinds of stuff.

I don't know the setup of these venues, but I would love to see more sessions as workshops than lectures. Maybe that's unreasonable given the expected size of the event.

Laura Scott
PINGV | Strategy • Design • Drupal Development

Couple of Thoughts from Outside the Box

coachstevetoth's picture

Hi Everyone;

First Thought: I would hate to miss the beginners session if you guys are doing it on a Friday! I am in Broadcasting and taking off Friday or any workday is just not possible for me. Is there a way to run it on Saturday and/or Sunday sense from my own perspective I may not want to attend advanced sessions-it would be probably over my head, lol

Second Thought: To raise more revenue and sense I am in broadcasting have you all thought about recording the modules live at the site in video and audio and then make them available afterward for anyone in the world to purchase them sense they could not make it to Denver! You can have some one do this or I can do it sense that is what I do full time-I own a Broadcasting and an eWebinar company. Just a thought.

Conference Videos

larsdesigns's picture

I recommend that any videos or content produced from the event should be released under the Creative Commons and/or GPL License. This is the nature of Drupal and open source communities. Naturally, there should not be a direct charge for the content.

Drupal Camp Colorado is a non-profit event that is held in the spirit of education and Open Source Software/(GNU).

During the last Denver Drupal meet-up, event organizers asked for volunteers to record the sessions and I would suggest or assume that any video or other content produced by the event would be hosted on the Drupal Colorado Camp web site. As far as I know, volunteers for session video recording are still needed. Hint, Hint, Nudge, Nudge!

oops I didn't mean to step on any toes!

coachstevetoth's picture

I am new to this group so I will make mistakes and don't know all the politics yet. However, I do not want that to stop me from contributing.

We charge to attend to the event but have issues charging for the video content, sorry that is just not congruent with me.

Video Volunteers

larsdesigns's picture

From what I have learned from previous Drupal Camps and I don't speak for the camp organizers, but the funds that are collected from the admission fees are needed to pay for the venue, food, printed materials and other essentials. Any left over funds are used for the next Drupal Camp Colorado. I think that all the labor for the camp is performed by volunteers like myself or sponsors.

Check out these cool videos from the last Drupalcon: http://sf2010.drupal.org/community/news/drupalcon-sf-2010-session-videos...

Would you like to volunteer to help record the sessions?

Charges

sreynen's picture

Charges for DrupalCamp exist only to cover expenses. If there were no expenses, DrupalCamp would likely be free. Charges were suggested for a pre-camp training, but it's not even clear yet if that training will happen, much less how much, if anything, it will cost. It may not be worth getting into hypothetical charges for hypothetical video of hypothetical training just yet.

Re Charges

larsdesigns's picture

sreymen,

The thread is about recording the sessions of Drupal Camp Colorado. Not the proposed beginner session.

Please read the thread and try again.

Not backing out...

jhodgdon's picture

Don't worry, I'm not backing out of the conversation completely. I can hardly ever resist offering my opinions. :) I'm merely stepping aside as far as offering to lead the session, since it sounds like you have people there who can do it and want to do it.

I'm not sure if I'm going to be coming or not to the camp. The camp itself I'm sure will be interesting, but I probably wouldn't travel (and sacrifice a weekend) for just a Drupal camp. But if the camp included sprints before/after, or hiking afterwards :), that would be more of an incentive for me to come. Also if you had wanted me to come in and lead a beginner workshop before the event, that would also be an incentive, but again, I really don't want to do that if you have local people who would like to lead the workshop (I don't want to step on toes, and I also think it's something that's best for a local group to do themselves and develop themselves if possible).

Another comment: I see that several people are suggesting doing the beginner workshop during the regular camp... We used to do that at the Seattle Drupal Camps we did a few years ago, and I'll just say one more time that switching to a completely separate beginner workshop was a big plus for all of us involved in the regular Drupal camps, for reasons outlined above.

Also, I'll just point out that last year we did our beginner workshop several weeks before the big camp, on a Friday. We had a large turnout, but your situation may be different if you are trying to serve people from a larger geographical area who just come to town for the camp.

Our main reason for choosing a Friday is that none of us who volunteered on the day of the workshop wanted to do it on a weekend, though it definitely excluded some folks. You could also do a series of evening workshops over the course of a few weeks, which has the advantage of avoiding information overload.

Beginner training

vegantriathlete's picture

I would also love to lead and/or assist with a beginner training.

Beginner training

tkyoung's picture

Hi all,

I have been watching this thread with great interest because I'm a beginner. I am already blocking my calendar for Friday, June 25th so I can attend this session.

Beginner Training

kappaluppa's picture

I'm not sure where this has left off, but I'd like to help with leading or assisting with a beginner training, or to help organize the beginner training part of the DrupalCamp.

Please let me know what I can do to help!

thanks,
K

Drupal Colorado

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