How to get your drupal questions answered
Hi SA drupallers!
Would you like your drupal questions answered by community experts? Then read this post - it'll tell you the best way to get answers.
- Firstly, if you really want good answers, learn how to ask good questions. I thought I knew how to ask good tech-related questions until I read this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Then I realised that I did know how to ask good questions, and now I knew how to ask much better questions. That's helped me on irc and on support forums. You basically want to ask your question like this:
"I'm trying to achieve [A]. I thought the best way to do this was to [B]. I read the documentation and it said to do [X]. I did it, I expected to see [Y] but actually saw [Z]. What am I doing wrong?"
Out there some drupal genius (like me! lol) reads this question. And immediately knows a few things:
- The outcome that you're trying to achieve. Knowing this, we may have a better suggestion instead of [B] and thereby solve your problem.
- You're already thinking - because of [B]. Whohoo! We know that you're someone who is thinking how to do something which will achieve your outcome. Tech geniuses would rather answer questions from people who are willing to do their own thinking.
- You read documentation - double points. It means you're not asking someone else to do all the hard work. Plus you're learning new stuff. Both good pointers, and you're more likely to get helped.
- When you did [X] you've told us what you expected to see when you tried [X]. That means you're thinking. Then you say that instead of [Y] you saw something else - [Z]. Awesome - that's valuable information.
Questions like, "Help, my website is broken!" or "Views isn't working" or "Taxonomy isn't linking properly" will get you ignored almost 100% of the time.
- Read the documentation. Yes, RTFM applies - always. There's a reason documentation is written - and if it's out of date, update it yourself!
- Maybe someone else has already asked your question. Search drupal.org via google (go to google.com and type "site:drupal.org terms related to your problem"). If nothing shows up, search the internet. If nothing shows up, time to ask your question!
- Ask your question in the right channels. Those would be the forums on drupal.org or the issue queue for the module you're having a problem with. Or figure out how to join #drupal on irc. Please don't ask your question in http://groups.drupal.org/south-africa because this is for location-specific activities, and there may be other people on drupal.org who'd also like to know the answer to your question (plus, your question on the drupal forums is searchable, so in a month someone else may have the same problem you're having and also wants to know the solution - be kind and place your question somewhere they can find it!).
- If you're going to post a question in the issue queue, first read the Troubleshooting FAQ. If you're having a problem with your Drupal site, you're almost certainly not alone. Your questions may already have been asked and answered many times. Save yourself some time and start with this list of Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) before you post an issue in the queue.
- Don't be a support leech. Play nicely! And learn how to be part of a community, particularly a self-organising one.
- Lastly, read this post and follow all of this advice! It will transform you into the kind of person whom other people enjoy helping, and take you one step closer to being Certified to Rock! And if someone does something which violates any of these guidelines, gently point them to this post.
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really good. there are a lot
really good. there are a lot compelling reasons to read the manual, at least i find it useful ;).
i find the irc is useful but also not that great when it is too full. i used to hang out there ages ago but now i actually have to get some work done. searching the web is very useful, there are vast volumes written on most things drupal.
if none of these channels work, then turn to your local drupal group. that is kind of what they are around for.
Ja, I'm back on irc - will
Ja, I'm back on irc - will keep the client open, at least - #drupal-za for anyone who wants to join.
Lots of good articles online - but check which version of drupal they're talking about - many times they're outdated.
As for local user groups being around to help people - well yes, to a point - the local user group exists to help build awareness of drupal and our own drupal skills. If by helping others, this is what you mean, then great! But if the local user group is all about free technical support for people who aren't actually learning anything but just getting free help, then I'm much less enthusiastic to help (and rightfully so!).
yeah, i dont mean that the
yeah, i dont mean that the community is around as a free "help center", but rather a place to help each other grow experience.
IRC
I visit IRC only when I got a question, I find the Drupal forums to be slow (for me anyway, because I want an answer now! :) ) and you never know if and when somebody is going to answer.
But, I always make a point of answering somebody else's question before I leave.
If you are new to Drupal, don't be shy to help there. Even if you have to go look up the answer for the person (maybe something you've seen somewhere), you actually helping yourself by learning something new about Drupal. The bot (Druplicon) is also very helpful, as it will help you find content, etc. Type a word, followed by '?' Such as 'views?'
I agree with Roger, this group is not the right place to ask questions, you are only reaching a drop(let :)) of the Drupal community.
Oh, and don't forget to feed Druplicon before you leave. :)
Quentin
botsnack! Also, perceptum has
botsnack! Also, perceptum has been training the bot. botcoffee! and botbeer! are worth typing...he's also been doing some philosophical training with it, but you'll have to ask him for more details...