We are moving slowly towards the Dojo 2.0 goal of having a decent way to deliver videos. I do think bringing some stability and regularity to the Dojo is a useful avenue to pursue in the sense that we can provide good information to people in a, hopefully, sustainable way. I hope that more people will step up to nail down the basics of getting videos standardized and therefor easier for people to contribute as well setting up a better system to propose and deliver the live lessons that were the start of the Dojo.
All that said, I have been in the midst of a personal search for what "the Dojo" means. This is going to be a ramble because I am too tired to write, edit, review, refine, etc. I think a lot of people in the Dojo have ideas about it and lots of people outside the Dojo just sort of don't really get it. For me, personally, I am thinking more and more about the original idea of the Dojo and my own interests and goals. I feel that in the pursuit of videos and live broadcasted and captured lessons, while valuable in their own right and not something to be abandoned, we have lost a bit of the concept of "mentoring." These are certainly not all my own thoughts - several people have been discussing this in relation to what the Dojo is not recently. Notably the GHOP project has been very successful in a very non-Dojo model way of doing things and I was very disappointed that the Dojo, as a group, did not do more to rally and partake in that project since ostensibly we are into mentoring. It also further defined what the Dojo is not in the community's and newcomers' eyes.
So basically, with the movement behind the continuation of a GHOP-like program and other discussions about what "mentoring" is really about, the Dojo is at a place where it needs to decide if we will be a learning/tutorial storehouse or a true mentoring group, or preferable to me, both. What do I mean by "true mentoring group" you ask? Well to me, in contrast to what the 1100+ membership of the Dojo represents to me right now, it means have a personal connection between the people involved. It means helping individuals learn the ropes about Drupal - code and community. It means creating a friendly, non-threatening, accessible avenue for people to engage with the community and learn how to become part of it. Yes, the transfer of particular skills is part of that, but it isn't the only focus or goal. Now, what does that mean practically? How do you do it? Well I think that getting involved in the continuation of the GHOP program is a good place to start. And by getting involved, I don't mean talking about it or singing its praises. I mean rolling up your sleeves and actively helping, i.e. get involved in specific tasks. That is just a start to get a feel for what mentoring really means. How the Dojo can work with that model and work it into the bigger Dojo 2.0 plan is up for discussion and I welcome that to happen right here. Let me suggest though that we start small. Mentoring is a lot more work than putting a video together or even broadcasting a live lesson. Pie in the sky is all good and well, but if it doesn't end up happening because it is too far out of reach, then discussing it right now will be wasted breath. So what I'm saying is that large, collaborative projects are not do-able right now. We can't even get more than a few people to do any work on the Dojo 2.0 stuff we've outlined, so please let's a) decide if this is truly something the Dojo should even pursue and then b) keep it real and obtainable.
OK, end ramble. Sorry if this seems random, overly long and useless. I am quite tired but have been thinking on this for days and felt the need to post it before I was too tired or distracted to raise it.

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New mentoring group
Follow the threads here and here, you'll see that GHOP is going to continue with their very successful task/project centric program (hope that singing of praise wasn't too off key). From being involved in some of the conversations in the GHOP channel, I can tell ya that the idea of joining forces with the Dojo (the group that does live lessons) would only slow them down.
So where does that leave the Dojo? Well... consensus seems to be that we don't need two potentially overlapping project/task-oriented learning groups. That, in turn, makes it logical to close the door on 'Dojo' collaborative projects and figure out how add value to the post GHOP. Where does this leave Dojo 2.0.? I think the only way to keep that real and obtainable is if we can demonstrate to the task based group that it would be a fun/worthwhile project to work on (we would be building a site/collaborative workspace/virtual classroom that they could use). What could we bring to the table? We can mentor, review work, document, provide task ideas/reviews, and other essential tasks. If we're not able to generate a core, committed group out of our 1100+ members, then we might want to reevaluate why this group exists.
Just on a personal level, I've been trying to set up topics that I think are important (what's our vision, goals, process, how do we make it sustainable, worthwhile) and help drive the conversation. I very much hope spend a great deal of time 'doing' (mentor, apprentice, producer, manager, etc.) after a few rounds of personal fundraising.
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I initially envisioned the
I initially envisioned the future of the Dojo as being a place where there would be mentoring. I even discussed some ideas in #drupal-dojo about having similar task-oriented things like GHOP. With the news of GHOP continuing on (DROP?), though, I'm not sure there should be two places for it. In a way, I'm a little sad and it'd be nice to be able to merge the two, but I realize that could be difficult and more time consuming at this time.
But there are other things the Dojo needs to focus on right now, anyway - just getting the new Dojo 2.0 website going, doing lessons consistently again, standardizing screencasts, etc. I don't think anything needs to be decided one way or another, perhaps the GHOP and Dojo will collaborate in the future - I dunno.
Mentoring ++
It means helping individuals learn the ropes about Drupal - code and community. It means creating a friendly, non-threatening, accessible avenue for people to engage with the community and learn how to become part of it.
My personal currency is running low, I know, but my original impetus in starting this group was to get a small band of 10 to 20 novices together and teach them something. Things changed rather quickly, but I definitely think that creating a sub-community that's not about hit-and-run support, but more support-like than #drupal or #drupal-dev is certainly a big part of the mission here.
The way I see it there's a continuum between producing a static piece of video documentation on some broadly-interesting topic which can be effortlessly viewed by 1000s, and the hands-on nitty-gritty kind of work it really takes to become truly proficient in the system. The former is good for orienting people, introducing new ideas, and explaining specific techniques. But if you want to do anything interesting, you have to go beyond the screencast. Some just won't, and others will do it on their own or something, but ideally I'd like to think the dojo community can be a good place for people to come when they're trying to get it, and need a little help.
Hopefully some portion of those people like what it's all about and stick around to mentor someone else later.
I'll have to get more up to speed on how GHOP worked out and what the next steps are there. I've been regrettably out of the loop for the past several months.
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2 projects, 1 community
Just wanted to pop back in with some thoughts re: DROP (the GHOP continuation) and Dojo. I chatted with Angie about it very briefly and pretty much my conclusion was to let both of these groups fill the niche where they are right now. They are really going after two different things right now and that's OK. We (as in the Dojo) need to focus on the new site and stabilize Dojo lessons/videos. BUT I think it is very important for everyone to work on both groups, sort of like sister projects. We can help supply tasks, mentoring and promotion (as well as folks to learn - DROP is for any age) for DROP work and DROP tasks can be Dojo-related/helping build the Dojo project and/or lead to Dojo lessons. For folks that are interested in mentoring, this is a great opportunity to get straight to it without trying to scope creep the hell out of the current Dojo plan.
I think we can check back several months down the road and see what the pulse for both projects is and what we've all learned. At that point we can assess what possible next steps/expansion/merging may be like, if that seems like a natural progression. I think that what will be VERY telling, to me at least, is whether folks involved in the Dojo actually do step up to get involved with DROP and work to build that relationship. If not, then it really should be two separate entities. I plan to be actively involved in both, although my "administrative" focus will be more on the Dojo, since frankly it needs more help right now.
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Taking it to the street
Interfacing with Dojo and DROP is a top priority for my local group. We have access to a killer facility and will be producing top notch, engaging learning materials (helps that we just got a fresh dose of inspiration). We'll also have a bit more leeway when it comes to taking on sponsorships and other monetary/non-monetary incentives. A strong Dojo benefits the entire Drupal community and economy - outreach/engagement on a local level should be a great way for us to connect, contribute, and challenge others to do the same.
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