E-Learning and Drupal and ELMS (oh my!)

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btopro's picture

So I showed off a veerrrryyy brief presentation of ELMS and the Assignment Studio yesterday but we're working on A LOT of other projects / related projects. So, tonight around 7pm some of us are going to meet up to discuss ELMS and our initiatives at PSU in greater detail. The hope of this discussion is to try and get edu focused developers excited about this direction and start coming up with an attack plan for future development. This product will be available on drupal.org as soon as it's legal (http://drupal.org/project/elms just a name space at the moment and small description). Anyone is welcome to attend tonight though if they are interested in getting a deeper look at ELMS and discussing educational work in Drupal.

As a larger issue though, we will be talking about e-learning and drupal at large at the conference and (hopefully) here on the group as well. So, similar to yesterday, what is everyone doing? You don't have to stick to this form but it's a good start at least I think in helping others in education identify who else is possibly facing similar problems in the field:

  • What company / university / school system do you work for?
  • Geographic location
  • What sector do you work in? (Higher Ed, K-12, edu consulting, other?)
  • How long have you been in the field?
  • Have you developed anything custom or is it all public modules? (if so, which ones?)
  • What kind of Drupal Edu sites are you running? (courses, LMS, school site, department site, etc)
  • Any problems you're currently trying to overcome? (code, administration or otherwise)
  • Why Drupal instead of...oh, i dono, moodle or any proprietary system (like angel, webCT or blackboard)?
  • How do you handle authentication?
  • Anything you "need"?

Mine will be what follows..

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* What company / university / school system do you work for? - Penn State University
* Geographic location:  State College, PA
* What sector do you work in? (Higher Ed, K-12, edu consulting, other?) Higher Education
* How long have you been in the field? Been working part-time / full-time for the university on drupal / e-learning related topics since Spring '05
* Have you developed anything custom or is it all public modules? (if so, which ones?) ELMS (e-learning management system), Assignment Studio, Rubricator, a few other random ones.  We base all our sites off of Views, CCK (A LOT of submodules for it too), Webserver_auth (cleaned up to work for 5.x), URL Alias, and book are our major ones though there are many many others.
* What kind of Drupal Edu sites are you running? (courses, LMS, school site, department site, etc)  We run an LMS, course sites, and our department's website off drupal.  It has been my policy for the last year to not put a new site on the web off of our domain unless it was done in Drupal.
* Any problems you're currently trying to overcome? (code, administration or otherwise) Getting help / hiring people to handle all the mini drupal theme / module / site projects floating around.  We have an issue of having almost too many good ideas at the moment and no where near the staff to be able to handle them all.  We also were having issues with getting my code out into the public but they have recently been alieviated.  Also general server load as right now we only have 1 box running everything so scalability has been kinda a scary issue for us.
* Why Drupal instead of...oh, i dono, moodle or any proprietary system (like angel, webCT or blackboard)? We currently use angel and since we're in the College of Arts & Architecture the lack of "pretty" theming in that system just felt too limiting to the visual nature of our content.  Also, the workflow for assignment submission was terrible for one of our courses.  I knew some drupal at the time I was presented with making that workflow easier and so that's what we ran with initially.  I also feel that drupal is a lot more powerful then moodle in terms of look-and-feel as well as backend expandability.  When it came down to it it was luck, my skills, and the framework that caused us to choose drupal over any of the alternative products out there.  I knew it didn't do what we wanted out of the box, but I also knew I could make it do what we wanted to.
* How do you handle authentication? Webserver_auth module modified to work with our systems and 5.x drupal.  We have a single sign on system at the university based off of cosign (http://weblogin.org/).  We then pipe in user accounts / match them against a teamlist API provided by angel so that we know students are only able to access the courses they are currently enroled in.  This also pulls across their first name, last name and group association so  instructors don't need to manage user accounts (and either do students!).  No one ever knows how much of a pain it would be without all this system integration and that's how it always should be! :-)
* Anything you "need"? Developers / thinkers to help take e-learning to the next level :-)

Drupal and Angel LMS

damon.cook-gdo's picture

I'd be interested to chat, because my school might be currently uses Angle LMS and we're looking into the possibility of using Drupal for CMS. Sounds like you've got the experience under your cap.

Whenever works

btopro's picture

We're currently undergoing a massive overhaul of our infrastructure. I'm kinda hoping to convert my multisite (site per course) set up to an o.g. way of doing things with a single system / site. After this conversion the ELMS installation profile should be complete (since I'll be making it in the process of setting up the new infrastructure).

Not that this stops us from talking :). It'll just let me give you a project to point to that you can try out and see what I see.


"Moodle? What's moodle?"

http://elearning.psu.edu/
http://elearning.psu.edu/projects
http://drupal.org/project/outline_designer
http://drupal.org/project/html_export
http://drupal.org/project/search_and_replace

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