Drupal Shop Talk Conference Call (NOV)

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GregoryHeller's picture
Start: 
2006-11-14 11:00 - 12:30 US/Pacific

This is a call for Drupal Consultants and Programmers to talk about the work they are doing, new sites they have launch, modules they are working on, opportunities for collaboration, etc...

These calls will happen every 5 weeks, the time of the call will change to ensure that those with particular scheduling conflicts will have opportunity to participate.

Proposed Agenda
1) Introductions (name, firm, last site you or you firm launched, favorite module lately)
2) Setting / Review of agenda (you can post agenda items as comments to this thread, please post any supporting materials that might be helpful to others)
3) Announcements
4) The rest of the agenda

The call-in number is (641) 297-4600
Conference Code 776614#
Back Channel: irc://chat.freenode.net #drupal-shoptalk

Comments

Notes from the call

GregoryHeller's picture

Here are my notes from the call. Please let me know if i missed anything. Sorry that there is no recording of this call. I'll work on recording the next one.

Drupal Shop Talk Conference Call
Tuesday November 14, 2006 11AM PST

Attending: (irc name: name, city state, website/company: newest favorite module)
simplymenotu: Larry Moore, Toledo Ohio, ProvingZone.com: views and ecommerce, panel module
dalin: Dave hansen lange, calgaray, capta
gregory: Gregory Heller, Seattle WA, civicactions.com: views and cck
jessi: Jessi, Seattle WA, eggplant media collective: 2 months with drupal: using lots of blocks now!
laura-pinv: Laura Scott, Boulder CO, PingVision, cck and views a whole bunch, like where they are going
mgiff: Mike Gifford, openconcept consulting, Ottawa CAN, organic groups
phillipadsmith: Phillip Smith, Toronto CAN, community bandwidth: import html
rorros: Richard Orris, Albany NY: img and img gallery and image attach
tenk: Jeff Micolis, Washington DC, development seed: civinode
Carry Gordan, Cherry Hill Company in LA

CiviNode: works with civicrm 1.4. allows you to make node objects from civicrm, and hte other part ties into cck and views. created content type for a project and associated civicrm contacts with it. we can do views of the projects (CCK nodes) and include civicrm fields in the display.

Organic Groups: open concept will be putting out an OG hierarchy module soon which will deal with user permissions and such. So one group could then create smaller groups below them.

Organic Groups and internationalization: no big problems. The i18n and categories module not working exactly right. currently working on an arabic/french english website.

i18n: menus: open concept is going to publish a patch for multi lingual menus and breadcrumbs. still more code cleaning going on, but maybe later this week.
Volunteer translation: desire to have a different node type so that unpubished content is different than published content. Allow users to submit translations or improvements on the translation. Most organizations do not have the resources to do translation, but have volunteer resources. How do you manage the workflow of translation.

Phillip: code Sprint on internationalization
2 day code sprint (date TBD). agenda will be determined next week at the Toronto DUG meeting. much of the work will be based on the discussion and work coming out of the internationalization group.
Gregory suggests documentation and screen cast.

Views & Internationalization:
Allan Dixon might have this solved

Jeff: SMS module. works with mobile accord (sms aggregator). made a drupal 4.6 module. 6-10K people used in on planned parenthood. the module takes care of collecting the "users" information. The module will need to be upgraded to 4.7 before it goes up.

Alberta Green Party website: 2 different node access modules working at the same time.
organics groups and node privacy by roll (for policy wiki). approved policy only editable by administrators. organic groups is used for general working groups. created a custom module that forces node privacy by role to only manage the privacy of node types that are not covered by organic groups. 5.0 might handle this better, but for 4.7 this is extensible and could be used with other

Dave and Gregory and another person have seen phantom nodes created by unauthorized users. we need to get to the bottom of this. the devel module might be able to see what is causing them. Might be caused by robots hitting a certain path. Would a robot.txt file help? maybe .htaccess.

Capthcha: math captcha
Kitty module: uses an image challenge

Spam bots are a problem, lets start a best practices discussion on the community page.

Laura: rich coded a multi node module that allows the simple creation of simple node types and change the node type.
Taxonomy switcher is also a good module for changing taxonomy terms.

DUGs
Toronto Group: the group is really enthusiastic and ready to work. regular meeting are important.
Beer is important to getting people out to DUGs
Post new groups to the community group on groups.drupal
Announce in advance what the presentations are going to be.

Announcements
RootsCampNYC: http://rootscamp.org/RootsCampNYC Saturday the 18th

http://www.CivicActions.com
http://www.GregoryHeller.com

Thanks Gregory

simplymenotu's picture

excellent call

Some suggestions;

Read Gregory's notes, if there is an issue or something to expand upon please make a comment. Better for the community.
Perhaps we should assign tasks, let's not let ideas drop.

  • Spam bots are a problem, lets start a best practices discussion on the community page.
  • phantom nodes
  • Community conf call for new Drupal users (simplymenotu posted in the Community group)

Thanks!

Back Channel Script of the call

GregoryHeller's picture

If anyone knows a better way to post this transcript, please let me know and i will fix it.

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  <gregory> hello!
<phillipadsmith>  mGiff: you're ottawa23-1177887236.dsl.bell.ca gives you away
  <phillipadsmith>  ;-
<simplychatzilla> howdy!
<phillipadsmith>  ;-)
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  <mGiff>   guess there aren't many of us in Ottawa..
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  <mGiff>   Although I've been a bit surprised from time to time..
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  <mGiff>   the import html sure looks good, but hand't actually used it.
<phillipadsmith>  mGiff: yeah, working surprisingly well out of the box and a little XSLT work gets you a near perfect import for large sites in no time
<mGiff>   Sorry.. My dog is a bit excited at times..
<simplymenotu_>   at least he is not bite excited. ;-)
   <laura-pingv> views and what?
    <simplymenotu_>   http://drupal.org/node/56661
   <simplymenotu_>   CiviNode
   <simplymenotu_>   views and internationalization
<mGiff>   Have details on the code sprint?
   <mGiff>   ??? http://greenparty.ab.ca/
   <phillipadsmith>  mGiff: sign-up at http://groups.drupal.org/toronto
<dalin>   http://albertagreens.ca
    * phillipadsmith    hopes that nobody can hear him eating lunch...
<dalin>   you're good
   <gregory> i think it has been rob thorn
  <mGiff>   where's the scoop on the i18n sprint here - http://groups.drupal.org/toronto
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  <mGiff>   http://prax.ca/
    <gregory> that sounds cool
   <phillipadsmith>  mGiff: it hasn't been officially announced yet -- that's on our agenda for the meeting next week
<phillipadsmith>  (the user group meeting that is)
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<mGiff>   oops..
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  <phillipadsmith>  http://drupal.org/project/lobby
    <phillipadsmith>  lobby.module ++
    <phillipadsmith>  ;-)
    <mGiff>   yeah - go code sprinters!
  <mGiff>   Oh yeah, on civicrm & i18n - http://openconcept.ca/civilingua_making_civicrm_multilingual
  <phillipadsmith>  http://groups.drupal.org/node/1789
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  <mGiff>   Think this is where alan's work would be - http://community.telecentre.org/
   <mGiff>   Just hadn't know about his work/struggles with views.
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   <phillipadsmith>  http://groups.drupal.org/node/1789 <--- DrupalTranslationReport-1.4.pdf
<tenk>    http://www.saveroe.com/node/6181
   <bjaspan> Hi, sorry I'm late.
   <gregory> bjaspan, introduce yourself here on irc
    <gregory> no problem for being late
  <bjaspan> This is Barry Jaspan from Boston.
  <simplymenotu_>   Hi Barry! welcome
  <mGiff>   i18n groups - http://groups.drupal.org/i18n
    <mGiff>   I don't have a need for an sms tool right now, but know that 95% of folks never publish code because there isn't ever the time to clean it up till it's pretty..
    <laura-pingv> good point. That's where we are on a couple.
  <mGiff>   http://drupal.org/project/tellafriend
  <laura-pingv> mute is a good thing
   <simplymenotu_>   http://albertagreens.ca
    <gregory> some one has a bunch of mic noise
  <mGiff>   No security notices listed here - http://drupal.org/project/issues/tellafriend
<simplymenotu_>   What is the diff between "email this page" and "Tell a Friend" ?
   <gregory> different modules, i don't think the functions are any different
  <gregory> they just gre up separately.
   <simplymenotu_>   thx Gregory
    <laura-pingv> 4.7.4?
<mGiff>   http://drupal.org/project/emailpage
    <simplymenotu_>   ghost-node.module
  <simplymenotu_>   drupal.org is down?
    <laura-pingv> is this the latest release?
    <mGiff>   drupal's working here
<laura-pingv> there was that sessions vulnerability
  <gregory> laura, jump in
<gregory> on the line
    <laura-pingv> robots.txt won't do that
  <simplymenotu_>   sure?
  <laura-pingv> .htaccess might
    <simplymenotu_>   hrm....
    <laura-pingv> robots.txt is a voluntary direction for 'bots
<simplymenotu_>   I know spiders can ignore robots.txt
   <mGiff>   I'm going to have to leave a bit early today.. Was expecting it to be a 60 min call.
  <simplymenotu_>   I have to leave as well in 5 minutes. :-(
  * phillipadsmith    to
<phillipadsmith>  and too
    <laura-pingv> captcha using math challenge does not block spambots
   <laura-pingv> they blast random answers and get through a % of the time
  <laura-pingv> We saw about 5% getting through
    <laura-pingv> textimage has been 100% effective, but not accessible
  <laura-pingv> also an issue for mobile
   <laura-pingv> On BlogHer we've had people register, then start up the bots
  <simplymenotu_>   off call, irc staying open, Greg please give us a recording (if possible)
  <laura-pingv> community group might be appropriate
   <laura-pingv> groups.drupal.org/community
    <gregory> unfortunately no recording this time arround
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   <gregory> http://dev.civicactions.net/moin/DrupalAdminInterfaceImprovements
  <mGiff>   Was good talking with you all.. Sorry I have to head off early..
   <gregory> see you later mike!
    <mGiff>   Talk to you again in 5 weeks..
<laura-pingv> could try cross-listing through meetups
    <phillipadsmith>  mGiff: talk to you soon
    <gregory> http://rootscamp.org/RootsCampNYC
  <phillipadsmith>  LOL
    <phillipadsmith>  two cheers for gregory! :-)
    <laura-pingv> thank you gregory
  <dalin>   thanks all!
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  <gregory> thanks everyone
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