Posted by narres on September 4, 2009 at 7:04pm
I think we should synchronise:
http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-conference-europe and
http://groups.drupal.org/drupalcon-european-regional-organizing-group
To avoid parallel universes
I think we should synchronise:
http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-conference-europe and
http://groups.drupal.org/drupalcon-european-regional-organizing-group
Comments
we move the relevant content
we move the relevant content of http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-conference-europe to http://groups.drupal.org/drupalcon-european-regional-organizing-group
ad then delete http://groups.drupal.org/drupalcon-european-regional-organizing-group
good idea?
before deleting we should inform all the members of group1 to join group2 (this includes the guys that recently applied to become group members)
Good Idea :)
Move from A to B and than delete B ;)
To clarify...
I think he meant that http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-conference-europe should be deleted, no?
Is that what you are proposing too?
Cheers Daniel
I'm not sure what everybody thinks
There are some questions left about the new responsibilities and I'm waiting for the "official" statement, which will be submitted soon (I hope).
As far as I know:
I noticed the statments at the BoF in Paris as a global strategy, but I'm missing some details.
My left questions:
As far there are no futher details, I'm not sure weather I will delete the group or not :)
Hmm should'nt we therfor start posting over there...?
But as long as we are here..
Old saying, much abused, but : Think Global, Act Local seems just about right for me on this. I think we have everything to lose in disengaging local communities from the organization of DrupalCons. I do not disagree with the notion of having professional conference organizers early in the loop, and why not have the same company do this every year (Blue Projects made a great job on this one, and I for one would say they are a keeper). I also believe there can be great value in the DA taking the lead, we do not want to bother the same sponsors twice a year with different communication channels, and there is a lot we can mutualise (for starters: a basic con website that can be reused). But I believe we should want to have the local guys as implicated as possible. This not only adds color and fun to the event it is also very important for the structuring of the involved communities. It remains to be seen but I think that as much as the French community has become hyper?active these last two years the best is still to come and this event would prove to have been crucial for that.
I am also very wary of the "Planned by commity" effects: it is a great way to have politics trump over enthousiasme and good will. This does not mean I think we should not have a european level body working on DrupalCons. We need more scalability, and better resource use so that would be great, and I think much larger cooperation is needed even on smaller events : For example I would really love to see a big event happening in Geneva, and it would be great to see the people from Lyon (and other close by cities) coming and if possible participating in the organization. I think there is sweet spot between the "planned by community" and "planned by a commitee" and we need to find it.
As far as I am concerned:
European Planning Commitee: great. But if it were to become a closed circle communicating to the others their decisions, well that would be a bummer.
DA taking the lead: really great, and see the mention above
Professional Organizers: really, really great, no down side to this one
This group is a duplicate
This group is a duplicate of http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-conference-europe. I don't know why it was accepted in the first place. Because it has no content, let's just kill it and restart a discussion on the other.
Damien Tournoud
Webmaster issue
I opened a webmaster issue to delete this duplicate group: http://drupal.org/node/571036
Damien Tournoud
the next time you are on a
the next time you are on a stage just listen what is annonced there.... the new group was announced in the closing session of drupalcon paris... and has aready more members than this older group.
and yes some people would rather close the new group and stick to the old way of organizing drupalcons
You are missing the point
The two groups have exactly the same scope. The second one should never have been accepted in the first place. This new group doesn't have any additional value (nobody from the association even commented on it!), so it should be nuked.
This has nothing to do with the way of organizing Drupalcons ;)
Damien Tournoud
I guess you are right about
I guess you are right about that, but I also guess starting a new group with and "new Admin/Manager" and anouncing it in the closing session was an intentional move by cary gordon and by that I don't wan't to judge if that move was right or wrong.
As Thomas Narres stated above, he seems to see this move as intentional too and is wating for more Information from the DA before he wants to close down the old group.
so the only difference
so the only difference between the groups is the "manager"? we can easily add kristof as manager to http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-conference-europe
it doesn't matter which groups disappears as long as we have ONE place left (unless we want two european drupalcons per year of course :P)
and let's get this done quick to avoid confusion (we're doocrats, remember?)
as long as there is no official statement by the association let's not search for "intentional" actions behind the creation of this group
Another difference?...
Isn't another difference that all users wishing to join have to be "accepted" by the moderator? It's set to "Moderated - membership requests must be approved"? Or this was the case when I joined. And I found it uncomfortable. Is it still the case?
Cheers Daniel
Switching from "Moderated" to "Open" is just a click :)
It came from the original content as here where sponsors and budgets listed too :)
The duplicate group has been destroyed
The duplicate group has been destroyed, and all posts and memberships have been transfered to the old one.
Damien Tournoud
bravo!
bravo!