Open Drupal Oxford: hangout Sep 15

Posted by jp.stacey on September 11, 2014 at 8:29am

Start:

2014-09-15 15:00 - 15:30 Europe/London

Organizers:

jp.stacey

Event type:

Online meeting (eg. IRC meeting)

https://plus.google.com/events/clm1hdkb3taqh5neqg52bcun6b8?authkey=CL2rh...

Tempted as I was to hijack the broader Open Drupal hangout (given it was all already organized), I think there's a lot that needs to be discussed in the context of getting our training up and running, that isn't really of interest to the wider Open Drupal group.

Provisional agenda:

OpenDrupal agenda

What's been done
- Initial wiki page proposal
- Hedley's template
- Github repository wiki for materials
What's required
- Complete training notes: modules
- Polish training notes
- Get training
Next steps: options include
- Work more on tutorial notes
- Actively get trainees
- A (simple) one-page website to suggest professionalism & help the sell

Comments

Scratchpad for agenda/minutes

Posted by jp.stacey on September 15, 2014 at 1:56pm

Scratchpad Google Doc for agenda/minutes:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kWNiXDLjj3_JssSadjGaUlS1rvvDbN0it2Ho...

When we're done, I'll copy the minutes into a comment below.

Minutes

Posted by jp.stacey on September 15, 2014 at 2:45pm

Intro

Open Drupal Oxford: not really geographically restricted. Just convenient.
(Local training in person)

Once we have tried and tested training notes, they’re globally available like any others

What’s been done

Initial wiki proposal for 1-2 day’s training of site admins and editors:
https://groups.drupal.org/node/439473

Template from Hedley, based on his recent training & ongoing experience
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16xbs8nHSHfLrDXuANWQuEeVAzMo6VxIIMEny...

Resulting in this github wiki:
https://github.com/jpstacey/opendrupal-oxford/wiki
containing:

Training notes, with two modules (partly) fleshed out
Version of Hedley’s template, suitable for separate training modules
Training tips from Hedley’s template, abstracted out

Next steps

Tutorial notes need (more) work: important to

feed in anything from Open Drupal apprentice curriculum before going much further
after that, do substantial body of work (!)
feed in anything from Web Literacy during this

Open github tickets to do these?

Getting trainees is hard: I don’t have the contacts. Reached out to a couple but nothing’s materialized yet. If anyone has some contacts, let us know.

Phased training will be as follows:

ALPHA: Initial 2-3 training sessions will be FREE (possibly ask for travel costs to be paid). This allows us to iterate the notes and share value for everyone.
BETA: subsequent 2-6 sessions at a reduced rate, to “harden” the training in a wider environment
RELEASE: training will be costed at the trainer’s discretion

but materials will always be freely available for use by others, esp if organizations want to conduct their own training.

Can a “real” web presence help us get trainees and “business”? People are presumably looking for in-house training. Something professional like apprenticeships.opendrupal.org could help us get into these organizations.

Could we set up e.g. oxford.opendrupal.org? How about e.g. reading.opendrupal.org and swindon.opendrupal.org, to expand the training? Serving the same site, but with different text. It might emphasize the unintended geographical scope of the training, but for now that might be a bonus.

Apologies...

Posted by finn lewis on September 15, 2014 at 8:03pm

Hi J-P,
sorry I couldn't join you, was in a meeting, really wanted to help push this forward
Sounds like some good thinking and next steps though, I look forward to catching up next time.
Cheers,
Finn

No problem: it was awfully

Posted by jp.stacey on September 19, 2014 at 3:30pm

No problem: it was awfully quiet, though. I might re-run it some time (let me know if you're free to discuss yourself) just to get more people involved.

Trainees

Posted by carolyn baker on September 19, 2014 at 5:33pm

I did mean to try to contribute more to this, but my work got the better of me! I'd be happy to join a subsequent call. As I said previously I have designed and delivered in-house Drupal training on our CMS's (currently laboriously doing this for our new - and beautiful - D7 website) at an editorial level. Again, I have to say that there is a lot more to it than just Drupal, so I will make an effort to read thru' your documentation and comment on this aspect of it.

I work in the not for profit sector and we always need to do everything for nothing - I have been to countless training sessions - not just Drupal - and met people (who have been pulled off an book keeper job or something) who have been asked to maintain their website. They then go on a site-builder course and learn how to build a simple website - but it doesn't really teach them much about managing their exisiting site.

I feel that there is more need for the 2nd category than the 1st - because people have websites built and then can't maintain them, or make small updates or changes themselves. But the 1st is interesting ... as I have really found no training for editors - (although since this thread started I have noticed companies that offer it).

In terms of test trainees, Action Aid UK use Drupal and could potentially be interested in this - Amnesty International used to as did Greenpeace - I'll see if I can fish up some contacts - and see if I can find some smaller orgs too. I would offer my workplace up - and we are in Oxford - but I'd want to be involved in shaping any of our training so it probably wouldn't be very representative - and other orgs I know use Drupal are outside of the UK.

Happy to join a call sometime though.

Thanks, Carolyn: I'm shortly

Posted by jp.stacey on September 21, 2014 at 8:27pm

Thanks, Carolyn: I'm shortly going to go into pre-Drupalcon hibernation (got a lot to organize as I'm cycling there on the Tour de Drupal) but I'll hopefully pick this up once I get back.