During a testy exchange on a linkedin group post http://linkd.in/utIwzw some one posted a list of sites that have moved off of Drupal.
http://www.roshiley.com/blog/which-sites-have-moved-out-drupal
We all know that sites move back and forth from OSS to Proprietary and even within OSS I've seen them move from Wordpess to Drupal and from Drupal to Wordpress.
But this guys post is not about the natural ebb and flow of people changing their minds for greener pastures. His point is that Drupal is a failed solution and is indeed not enterprise by his definition.
In the linkedin exchange he's asks for the following:
I just want to see an example of high traffic Dating Site on Drupal and would be great if someone can show
me an example of this with lots of concurrent users spending time online on this site - something like
http://www.shaadi.com (not a drupal site)
Any ideas?
I've defended the Enterprise issue before but I'd like to gather a few facts on this one and close that linkedin thread out.
THNX!
- Doug Vann [Drupal Trainer, Consultant, Developer]
- Synaptic Blue inc [President]
- http://dougvann.com

Comments
Check the gaming industry!
Apparently Drupal is HUGE in the game industry and used by almost all the major publishers to drive their game community sites (read: HUGE amounts of logged in users/traffic)
Just looked at EA and this was the first site I hit:
http://www.needforspeed.com/
Apparently many of the fan sites are on Drupal as well. The numbers I've gotten from some contacts in the industry rival that of major entertainment sites for traffic levels near launch times with huge percentages of those users being logged in (think in the order of millions of pages views per day)
Jason
Jason Pamental
[ @jpamental ]
There are loads of very high
There are loads of very high traffic sites using Drupal, and plenty of lists out there that are up to date. This is quite a nice quick one, but not even close to being complete: http://stuffly.posterous.com/drupal-which-big-brands-use-drupal-well-actua
The size of some of those brands should give a hint as to the number of hits the sites will be receiving. Also a good place to look is the music industry. I believe most of Sony music's artist use Drupal, and they almost always have tons of user generated content and huge numbers of users. Jimmy Page and Robbie Williams are both on Drupal and both have very high traffic.
Not going to bother continue
Not going to bother continue reading someone whose blog pager uses Comic Sans. </rofl>
Senior Drupal Developer for Lullabot | www.davereid.net | @davereid
Fast Company is on his list,
Fast Company is on his list, but their site http://www.fastcompany.com is still using Drupal...
Constructively Reviewing Circumstances
One suggestions that I've made in past, is that in addition to some of the sites that showcase Drupal, I think that it'd be wise to setup a constructive site that examines circumstances where major sites have moved off Drupal. It think it's important that as a community we learn from those experiences.
An interesting case in point, being the NY Observer, where the decision to move away from Drupal was more likely a result of (1) the initial Drupal platform not being invested in/actively maintained, (2) the client simplifying the content strategy, and (3) new management's prior experience and comfort with Wordpress. This video provides some insight.
http://wordpress.tv/2011/09/08/austin-smith-from-drupal-to-wordpress-mig...
Not sure what the long term Drupal plan is at fast company, but I gather there has been a fair bit of change ongoing at that organization as well.
Such a site would help shed some like on the FUD that's out there, and clarify why/how Drupal is not always the best tool for the job/all things to all people (i.e., overkill simple sites/plain blogs), and reinforce Drupal's strengths as the platform of choice for big, tough and complex sites.
In short it'd be interesting to understand and clarify when/why Drupal fails on it's merits, and when other factors are at play that would make it difficult for any platform to succeed.
Market Drupal's strengths to the right audience
Hi, I met with Austin after his talk on observer.com moving from Drupal to Wordpress at Wordpress Camp San Francisco. The primary driver for switching to Wordpress was that the new boss at observer.com was an experienced blogger, and a big fan of Wordpress. The deal was, re-build it in Wordpress or we will find someone who will. Despite being a Drupal shop, they chose to go ahead with re-building the site on Wordpress. There were lots of technical challenges because Wordpress is optimized for a single developer to develop and modify a site. There were also some scalability issues that they also needed Automattic to step in and help with.
As millions of bloggers and small website owners move into organizations they will champion Wordpress successfully as the CMS of choice. However, for organizations with more complex application development built by larger engineering teams Drupal's architecture and modular development lifecycle make Drupal the better choice. In the meantime, we should anticipate that tens of millions of websites of the hundreds of millions of websites on the Internet will switch to Wordpress and have success.
When thinking about Marketing Drupal it's best to think about how we in the Drupal community convey the value of Drupal to different audiences. In the case of Observer.com, the content editor audience loves the Wordpress User Experience. Drupal's answer to that is that Drupal doesn't have great content editor experience out of the box because the developers who build Drupal sites find that the UX and workflow for content editors at organizations is different every time. Therefore the emphasis is on not getting in the way of the developer while trying to customize the content editor UX. Obviously, there's still a long way to go for a better default UX in core and Drupal products.
For web application developers Drupal's strength's are the rich APIs of Drupal core, the huge library of contributed modules, the rich pool of talent in the PHP and Drupal community. For architect's Drupal's ability to integrate into an enterprise and the solid track record of Enterprise "ilities" (scalability, maintainability,etc..) features are key. The fact that Drupal can be a web platform from the simplest to the most complex sites is key for organizations with dozens or hundreds of sites. For the IT executive, access to a large competitive talent base, platform support, the agility Drupal provides to respond to the business, the innovation of the Drupal community are the key value propositions.
For the business owner, total cost of ownership, training for their content editor and technical staff are key, and having a platform that can be customized to their business needs and goals are critical.
We also have to acknowledge that the legitimacy and demand for Drupal talent worldwide is driving salaries up, and that means there are going to many instances where competing for Drupal talent is no longer viable. I know the background on many of the sites that moved off Drupal, and in many cases the fundamental problem was that they couldn't hold on to their talent either due to competitive offers or because the work and the organization were declining in interest. When that happens, we should expect to see new teams brought in and for there to be a re-platforming to one of the many viable completing web platforms.
Let's acknowledge losses, but also recognize that the largest organizations in the world are standardizing on Drupal as their web platform and that we are seeing explosive growth of Drupal in strong markets like North America, Europe, and India.
Kieran
Well Said
Props to Kieran for further expanding/clarifying. Agreed entirely that a key is emphasizing Drupal's sweet spot in the market (i.e., the tough stuff). It's aslo telling that the WP transition at NY Observer was tough and they really pushed the envelope of what it could do (mostly things that are simple to do in Drupal). Either way tracking those who move off Drupal, and ensuring we identify areas for improvement would help to improve Drupal, counter the FUD in some unwarranted anti-drupal commentary, and clarify when Drupal's not the right solution for the project/client.
Some more numbers
http://trends.builtwith.com/cms