LibraryCamp DC --- Venue?

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Thank you to those who are looking into possible venues for the LibraryCamp
I'd like to offer this thread as a chance for those looking into venues to report to the group on the opportunities that exist.

Thank you,
Doug Vann

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DCPL

leoklein's picture

We're working though a couple of friends/associates to get a location through DCPL.

sounds good

swacktacular's picture

I lot of people I asked recommended DCPL. I emailed them a while ago and never heard back, but since I knew some of you were talking to them I never followed up.

will post each potential venue separately...

swacktacular's picture

Thanks, dougvann. I have a number of places to mention, but none of them so far are what I think of as very inexpensive.

I've been requesting these venue specs:

  • inexpensive or free to use for the a day-long meeting
  • reliable wireless internet connection we would be able to access
  • has a large room where all attendees could convene (not sure how many – I’m thinking we’ll be looking for someplace that can accommodate somewhere between 50 and 150 people)
  • has several smaller breakout rooms for separate discussions and presentations
  • is reasonably accessible by metro

Here are recommendations from Bonnie Bogle (DrupalCamp organizer Cathay suggested asking). I emailed all the places she suggested - have not yet heard from them all but it hasn't been that long.

  • MLK Library - I don't know how good the quality is of their space or
    internet connection, or how large their capacity is for a single
    meeting, but I bet you could get a few rooms for free.

  • National Education Association building on 16th street. Plenty of
    space for 200+ people with good breakout rooms. I know the New
    Organizing Institute (http://www.neworganizing.com/) uses it for
    RootsCamp, so you might want to ask them about pricing and their
    experience there.

  • American University has Mary Graydon Center, which I know they've used
    for camps in the past, and the Katzen Arts Center, which is a little
    nicer. No idea on pricing, but if you say it's a nonprofit educational
    event they might give you a good deal.

  • GW has some event facilities too.

  • Wooly Mammoth Theater - again, no idea on pricing but it's a beautiful
    facility that I believe would meet your needs.

This was also suggested by a person who organizes unconferences:

"...MLK Library, American's communication school, CUA, and GWU media & public affairs. "

cathaycrosby's picture

Hi Amy and group - I've created a Google Maps link which provides location and phone number information for the places Bonnie mentioned:

http://tinyurl.com/yjrbe3u

This may help with decision-making when and if one or more of the places responds to Amy's inquiries.

I was also searching for other options, and found a couple more ideas:

The Foundation Center - although this only accommodates 45 people and costs $300: http://foundationcenter.org/washington/rental.html

There are more libraries: http://www.publiclibraries.com/dc.htm

Should we break this up and have members of our group call? Or would the MLK/DC library know about all of the meeting room options for all of its branches?

Has anyone asked the "Ask a Librarian" service at the Library of Congress? http://www.loc.gov/rr/askalib/

If not, I'd be happy to!

Although a long shot, there are three bookstores are listed that might be able and willing, listed through http://www.radicalreference.info/alt_books:

Busboys and Poets Books
http://www.busboysandpoets.com/books.htm
2021 14th St. NW
Washington, DC 20009
tel. 202/387-7638

Kramerbooks
http://www.kramers.com/
1517 Connecticut Ave. NW
Washington, DC 20036
tel. 202/387-1462

Politics and Prose
http://www.politics-prose.com/
5015 Connecticut Ave. NW
Washington, DC 20008

I hope these are helpful. Let me know if I can assist with contacting any places!
--Cathay
tel. 202/364-1919

Cathay Crosby
Operations Assistant/Volunteer Coordinator, Maryland AskUsNow!
ccrosby@askusnow.info
and
Statewide Coordinator, Ask a Librarian Delaware
cathay.crosby@lib.de.us

NEA

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The NEA (202-822-7603) told me that you have to be an NEA-affiliate to rent their spaces and they don't rent to general groups or members of the public.

American University

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I have a PDF showing detailed rates from a woman reached through summerconferences@american.edu. They seem to also offer space in dorms for people who need a place to stay ($41-110 / night depending on room type & # of occupants), as well as dining options on site. They seem to have many spaces available but these vary from $240 for a small room (holds 36 people) to $440 for a large room for a 24-hour time period. They're also available by the hour.

University of Maryland

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I contacted them because they have a library school, but the people I reached at the CLIS didn't seem to be involved with any space booking or availability and referred me to other people. Apparently different spaces are booked by different people.

a) Emailed the campus events address…. waiting to hear back.

b) McKeldin library room options:
Looks like $300 all day for Special Event room – we could contact them about “instruction labs” – rates seem to be the same for those:
http://www.lib.umd.edu/rooms/requestingrooms.html

c) Student Union Rooms
http://www.union.umd.edu/reservations/room_list.shtml
There are many rooms whose specs and prices are included, but they seem very expensive to me.

Referral info I got:

I can suggest checking with these three offices on our campus:

http://www.union.umd.edu/reservations/room_list.shtml

http://www.cvs.umd.edu/meetings/

http://www.lib.umd.edu/visitors.html#renting

American Libraries mag sponsorship?

SeanFitzpatrick's picture

Hi all,

American Libraries Magazine would love to help pay for the room--or whatever other sponsorship we could provide. I'm new to this group, and to Drupal, really, but since I just rolled out a new Drupal site for the magazine, I'd be thrilled to help sponsor and help get the word out to our readers.

Please keep us in mind, along with others (awesome to see Duo offered on the other thread...). You can reach me at sfitzpatrick@ala.org

Sean

Sean Fitzpatrick
Proof Studio
@sffitzpatrick

What a nice offer!

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Thanks so much for the offer, Sean! I'm sure Amy or someone from this group will keep your email handy! Hopefully we can keep costs down and provide the unconference at no cost to participants, and American Libraries' generous gift helps us achieve that goal!

Please thank all who are behind this!
--Cathay

Cathay Crosby
Operations Assistant/Volunteer Coordinator, Maryland AskUsNow!
ccrosby@askusnow.info
and
Statewide Coordinator, Ask a Librarian Delaware
cathay.crosby@lib.de.us

Meeting Room Link.

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A coworker just shared this link with me.
http://www.dclibrary.org/services/meetingrooms
I imagine that some of you already found this but if not... Here it is.

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Woolly Mammoth Theater

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Their rental brochure is linked from here: http://www.woollymammoth.net/about/space_rentals.php

I don't see wireless internet listed on the amenities, and while they do have less expensive rates for nonprofits, they're still kind of expensive ($500-$2000 for a full day).

Arlington County Public Libraries

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Their Central Library auditorium holds 180 people and is accessible by Metro:
http://library.arlingtonva.us/departments/Libraries/events/LibrariesEven...

I left a voicemail for a manager there - the room is presently open until 5pm. Caveats: They told me they'd had some problems with their wireless internet access, also their policy like many libraries requires that events be free and open to the public... so I'm not sure if we should allow the event open to the public.
There's no charge for their rooms, though. I will update when I have more information.

tentative reservation at Arlington

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Hi again. Today I talked to the Central Library Manager at Arlington and we were able to reserve their auditorium, which holds up to 180 people and can be split into 2 rooms easily, and although more groups could split up to discuss things in the space if they don't mind being in the same room. Here's a photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/arlib/4008743999/in/set-72157622579170176/
It's right near the Metro, and Arlington is quite close, so it should be easy to access:
http://bit.ly/cgyBGP
They have been having some problems with their wireless access and don't know if they'll have them resolved by June. Here's what the IT people say for now:
"There is wireless there, though it is on the older, slower, un-supported-if-it-goes-down network. There is also a wired jack on right-hand side of the stage they can plug into for Internet access."
We can have their room from 9-4 or 4:30.
I can pop down there and scope out the space.

Looked at Arlington Co library

swacktacular's picture

I checked out the Arlington County Central Library's auditorium yesterday and took some photos. The room looks pretty decent to me. It's very large, all on one level with a slightly elevated speaking stage. There's a view of public tennis courts right outside :-) There's a drop-down screen with projector access through the wall. The room can easily be divided in half (though only the front half would have the projector). We can have refreshments in the room. As noted previously, we can have the room 9-4. or so (there's an event at 5). There's the flaky wireless to contend with, but at least we're forewarned. The event also has to be free and open to the public, but we wanted it to be free anyway, and I can't imagine it would have much interest for most passers-by. The library was very convenient and easy to reach by metro from the city, and there are a number of restaurants and cafes within a short walk of the building.
I think we should cancel the PGMLS reservation and go with Arlington. Any objections? Sharon shared the survey responses we've gotten so far, and venue-wise I think they indicate that Arlington is our best option.

I'll go ahead and cancel the PG option,then

cathaycrosby's picture

Thanks so much for taking the time to travel and check this out, Amy!

Cathay Crosby
Operations Assistant/Volunteer Coordinator, Maryland AskUsNow!
ccrosby@askusnow.info
and
Statewide Coordinator, Ask a Librarian Delaware
cathay.crosby@lib.de.us

Prince George's County Memorial Library System

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We would not be exempt from their fee schedule, but it's pretty cheap - $60 for 1-4 hours, $80 for 5 or more hours. At present, looking only at branches somewhat near Metro stops, Fairmount Heights seems to have a 60-person-capacity meeting room available on 6/24 and New Carrollton has a 75-person room. However, both of these branches are about a mile from the nearest Metro station. A lot of the meeting rooms in the system are already booked for the 24th.

http://www.prge.lib.md.us/Lib/MeetingRooms.html

More details

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Largo-Kettering at present has a 100-person meeting room available 10-6 on June 24th. It's on the blue metro line. Our fee can be waived if we are "sponsored" by a nonprofit group/organization, says the man with whom I spoke. He also said their wifi is reliable. This is another space I haven't seen.

sign up

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btw, added sign-up sheet - http://groups.drupal.org/node/58773 - you'll need an estimate of # of attendees - hope it helps! Thx for your work...

DougVann added to sign up sheet.

dougvann's picture

I'm so happy to see that this is coming together.
You can count on me being there. I do have three other speaking events in June but none are close to June24th.

I like the Arlington Central Library suggestion. It is on the orange-line and its 7.3 miles from the Reagan International Airport. Hotels.com says there are a number of $100 to $120 hotels within a few miles from the library. There are a few below $100 but the hotels.com reviews were not at all good.

The Largo-Kettering option looks good too. I haven't looked into its proximity to airports or hotels.

Which one is it going to be? I'm ready to make some bookings. :-)

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Sounds like Arlington Central Library

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If the wireless becomes an issue, we could hook in wired (somebody who's got an extra really long ethernet cable just remember to pack it - I only have short ones these days). If it has to officially be open to the public, c'est la vie - what's the worst that can happen, we get patron feedback about the usability of our Drupal sites? ;)
To be certain, are we a definite go on the date, time & location? (sounds good to me...)

about the venues...

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(Oops that message somehow got posted before I was totally done :-(

Hi, sorry I didn't have a chance to respond over the weekend.
Location-wise, I think Arlington is probably much better. They guy I talked to at PGCMLS had told me Largo-Kettering was on the metro line, but actually it appears to be a mile away from the closest metro stop and would probably take an hour to reach by public transportation from the location of ALA.

If we have to go wired at Arlington, can we somehow split the connection, or might anyone have an air card that lets them access the internet if we split into groups? I'm not that savvy with network stuff.

I have been talking to someone at the Smithsonian, but she is still waiting to hear back from some more people.

Cathay had suggested a survey asking people what they most value in a venue, and she drafted some questions, which I think might be a good idea in addition to asking what people want to discuss. What do you think about something like a Surveymonkey questionnaire asking what people care about in a venue (parking, close to ALA, close to dining options, etc.)? I think we also need to eventually run the singup sheet somewhere beside Drupal Groups, as I'm guessing there will be attendees who don't have Drupal Group accounts.
Sclapp, would you be willing to put up a survey and monitor the responses if we get together questions?

Thanks.

Amy S

about the venues...

sclapp's picture

I'm happy to do the survey - I'll see if I can get access to our State Library's SurveyMonkey account. I didn't realize that you couldn't edit the wiki / signup on Drupal groups if you didn't have an account here. Cary Gordon had offered to host a drupal-based site for this librarycamp, I believe (if memory serves). Perhaps we should take him up on it & move everything there? Might reduce congestion on the drupal libraries group for those who aren't interested in LibraryCamp at ALA.

+1 for the survey.

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Excellent idea!
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Let me know...

cathaycrosby's picture

...if you'd like the reservation canceled at Largo-Kettering. I'll wait until another option is firmly set, unless you think this can be released now. I know there is quite a demand for these rooms, so the sooner I let Prince George's County Public Library know the better.

Just a thought re: marketing the event... Once you know you're ready for registration and where it will be, maybe send out a "Save the date" and "Registration will open on ____" Amy, we have a nice network here in Maryland. Perhaps Washington DC's libraries, ALA (American Libraries - Sean Fitzpatrick-see above for his comment), and VA can also spread the word?

Let me know if I can be of any additional help!
--Cathay

Cathay Crosby
Operations Assistant/Volunteer Coordinator, Maryland AskUsNow!
ccrosby@askusnow.info
and
Statewide Coordinator, Ask a Librarian Delaware
cathay.crosby@lib.de.us

Going to CIL?

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BTW, if you're headed to CIL & want to hash out some LibraryCamp details F2F, I'll be there. Am flying in Monday AM, not leaving until Wed PM.
- Sharon Clapp
Web Resources Librarian, Connecticut State Library

Spreading the word

SeanFitzpatrick's picture

I'm really happy to see this moving along!

I'll run announcements in AL Direct, on americanlibrariesmagazine.org, and in the print mag if possible (need to check on deadlines and space). I'll need more details (and ideally some boilerplate copy to run). Also, I'd run an ad on the magazine site.

Do you have details on date/time, cost (are you charging?), etc? Sounds like maybe Cary Gordon already offered to host a website, but I would love to offer to host the site on a sub-domain of ala.org! Before I pursue that idea, though, I need more details about scheduling and stuff to make sure that wouldn't be perceived as a conflict of interest...

I look forward to helping out with this. Please let me know if there's anything else I can do from the standpoint of publicity or logistics.

Sean

Sean Fitzpatrick
Proof Studio
@sffitzpatrick

A few comments

swacktacular's picture
  • I think taking this off the list and onto more organized online site would be great.

  • Cathay, thanks for all your help. I agree we should let PGCMLS know as soon as possible if we want to cancel.

  • Sean, that sounds excellent about advertising. I think if we're looking at a free event, am I right? If we go with Arlington, the event could be 9-4/4:30 on Thursday, June 24th. Dougvann started a presenters thread, but I don't think that's close to hammered out yet.

  • Sharon, does your library have a paid Surveymonkey account so you could email/export results? If so, that would be great. I personally am not attending CIL ($ deficiency) but was planning to head down to meet a friend one of the nights, so it would be cool if I could meet up with any other organizers at CIL as well.

Regarding the survey, I'm pasting Cathay's suggested questions with my edits as a draft:

To plan the day's events, we'd like to target the attendees' most desired interests.

  1. What is most important to you?
    a. wifi at meeting space
    b. location convenient to metro
    c. the event is free
    d. networking with other libraries who use or will use Drupal
    e. learning Drupal how-to information
    f. learning what is possible with Drupal
    e. other (comment box)

  2. Are there certain topics you would like to see covered?
    [comment box, or we could make a list with an "other" comment field]

  3. Would you like to be a speaker? If so, describe your presentation (and remember that it should be no more than (30?) minutes?

  4. Do you plan to eat at a nearby restaurant or to bring a lunch?

  5. Anything else you'd like to add?

Survey on LibraryCamp DC

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Please take a look at (and/or respond to) the brief survey about LibraryCamp DC at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/librarycampDC. Please let me know if you run into any problems. My direct email is sclapp@cslib.org, if you'd prefer to respond that way. Thank you very much,
Sharon Clapp, Web Resources Librarian, CT State Library

thanks!

swacktacular's picture

Thanks, Sharon.
The first question is only letting me choose each rating ONCE like it's ranking the possible choices, even though it's listed like Likert scale - I think it would be better if that one could be changed to let people rank several options at the same level of importance.

I know this thread is called "LibraryCamp" but I think in order to reduce ambiguity for people coming to the survey from potentially different places, it might be better to title it something like "Library DrupalCamp."

think I've got it

sclapp's picture

take a look - you're right, 1st q = Likert scale. I've changed it and tried it out - seems to work, but pls double-check me on that. Also, I changed the title. I hope that that helps. Thank you very much!

Likert fixed

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Looks fine to me now. I'd change the first question text slightly to "On a scale of 1 to 5, with 1 being the least important to you & 5 being the most important to you, which aspects of Library DrupalCamp are most important to you?"
Thanks!

surveying

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Are we ready to announce the survey and start getting responses? Sharon, are you on Drupal4Lib - would you like to announce it on there? (If you are the one checking the responses I thought it might make the most sense for you to post, although I will be happy to if you'd prefer.) Also I guess we should post it as a new Libraries Drupal Group item.
My suggested preface: "We are planning a Library DrupalCamp on Thursday, June 24th in Washington DC to coincide with ALA. Interested in attending? Please fill out this quick survey to help us in planning the event."

I say "Yes!"

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The survey looks ready to me, too - except for a start and end date. When will the survey end? Ever?

Cathay Crosby
Operations Assistant/Volunteer Coordinator, Maryland AskUsNow!
ccrosby@askusnow.info
and
Statewide Coordinator, Ask a Librarian Delaware
cathay.crosby@lib.de.us

good eye!

swacktacular's picture

Thanks, Cathay. I forgot to think about that. How about Friday the 23rd?
I feel like that should give people enough time, since it's such a brief survey.

End date on survey

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I know this is a rush job now that the conference is about 3 months away. I guess the end date needs to be dependent upon how quickly word can be spread to those who do not use this thread (MD listserv, for example), and to as many groups in Maryland, Virginia, DC, Delaware, and PA as possible - if not more. I'm thinking the ALA - American Libraries help is maybe a good help in this regard...? What do you think?

Cathay Crosby
Operations Assistant/Volunteer Coordinator, Maryland AskUsNow!
ccrosby@askusnow.info
and
Statewide Coordinator, Ask a Librarian Delaware
cathay.crosby@lib.de.us

survey vs. registration... ?

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I see what you're saying here, Cathay. I'm wondering if we can let the survey be a little more quick n' dirty than the registration - people can certainly still attend or present if they don't fill out the survey, right? - I think we're just trying to get an approximate gauge of attendee sentiment.

We could also put a much later end date on the survey, but make a decision earlier based on the feedback we receive (I based my suggestion of a short date on reading social science saying that if you give people a long time window to complete a task, they'll forget about it and never get it done). How about mid-May for a close date for the survey?

Maybe Sean or other folks have ideas about advertising? The only places that spring to mind for me are Drupal4Lib, Web4Lib, and Code4Lib, the Drupal Libraries group, and the Maryland list... I'm not really clued in to groups in other fairly nearby states.

posting before leaving for CIL

sclapp's picture

I'll post the survey announcement today on Web4Lib & Drupal4Lib. Feel free to announce it anywhere that seems useful to you.

excellent timing

ericG's picture

I just finished leading a drupal focused pre-conference session at CIL and passed on the Library Camp info, everyone was very excited.

Unfortunately I'll be at the US Social Forum during ALA so I won't be able to help out with or attend the Camp.

Thanks, ericG - it's too bad

swacktacular's picture

Thanks, ericG - it's too bad you can't attend. Sharon said she was going to also mention it at a Drupal session she was attending.

Are we decided?

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If this is the official decision to choose Arlington, let me know where DUO can send the check to cover the room.

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official decisions?

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Thanks, Doug.

I don't know what to say about the officialness of decisions - the organization of this event so far seems kind of nebulous, so I am not sure who the official deciders are.

Arlington is actually free (although the event has to be free and open to the public, which I expect won't be a problem as long as we only advertise it amongst library people interested in Drupal), so luckily we don't have to worry about a room rental fee with them. Maybe we could ask DUO to sponsor something equally critical, like coffee in the morning...? :-)

-Amy S

Can't Buy a Free Room!

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Ha! Some how I overlooked that the room was free! LOL!
OK. Since we can't buy a free room, JAVA it is!
{ /me takes a sip of JAVA then completes the post }
I'll get up early and grab some Coffee and doughnuts from the Dunkin' Donuts which is .9 miles away.
YUMMMMMMMM
- DV

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thanks!

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Sounds great - I'm sure coffee and donuts will be much appreciated by the attendees :-)

-AS

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