This group is an announcement list of major discussions and happenings in Drupal 8 initiatives, cross-posted from their dedicated groups and issue queues (listed below). If you only have time to read a single channel of info on Drupal 8, this is the one!
Content is along the lines of:
a) We think a decision has been reached, and here's the decision. Feedback?
b) We're trying to reach a decision, and we need help. Here's where to chime in to help us reach it.
c) General status reports about "Hey, if you've been busy for the past while, here's what's going on and what things you should know."
Unfortunately, this group needs to be kept invite-only in order to keep the content curated to only important announcements of general interest, but you are warmly encouraged to comment and participate on any discussions posted to this group!
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Drupal 8 Multilingual Initiative meeting on January 2nd, 2013
Happy new year to all! This could very well be the big year of the Drupal 8.0 release if we are diligent enough. Here is a new year's resolution tip: I'll help Drupal 8 more to further my career and contribute to the community.
How better to start that than getting down to work with the multilingual initiative? Get more background at http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/ and follow https://twitter.com/d8mi. It was never this easy to follow our upcoming events, issues in progress or have an overview of the people involved. We want to make it even easier to join the team, so look out for more improvements on the site soon.
We have made some great progress late last year with most of the localization update functionality now built into core and a new amazing setup screen included for entity/field translation and entity language setup in general. However, there are lots to do still. We have a mounting set of issues for configuration language support still undecided (despite several patches on various tracks) and entity properties still needing multilingual conversions. See http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/issues/focus for an overview of current issues.
In short, we have lots to cover and clean up in 2013 as well. Come be involved, ask questions, get going! We have tasks for all kinds of interests on all kinds of difficulty levels.
This IRC meeting is in the #drupal-i18n channel on IRC. See http://drupal.org/irc for more information. The time above is marked with UTC - check in your own timezone.
See you all there!
Meetings are every other week at the same time on Wednesdays. Check out http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/events for the calendar of upcoming meetings.
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Drupal 8 multilingual user testing in Zagreb
The study was conducted after Gábor Hojtsy made an open call for the multilingual user testing results. It was originally planned to run as many tests as possible on the second day of Drupal Balkan Summit in Zagreb, but the snow prevented me from going to day one, and a personal emergency had me out of the second day within an hour of getting to the summit. This started a trend, as every other session was plagued by something or other. The results are compiled from my notes and backup audio recording I made over my phone.
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Cool D8 PM Article!
Hey guys,
Just ran into this from my good friend Ashleigh... good stuff, check it out!
http://www.bluespark.com/blog/contributing-weekly-upd8
-Shan
Read moreDrupal 8 Multilingual Initiative meeting on December 19th, 2012
Wohoo! We just started our own website at http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/ this week and launched our own twitter account at https://twitter.com/d8mi. It was never this easy to follow our upcoming events, issues in progress or have an overview of the people involved. We want to make it even easier to join the team, so look out for more improvements on the site soon.
In terms of issues, we have stumbled a bit recently with only one major change committed in the past month, while we had many more lined up that did not get in. We are close with node access, a wizard for entity language and translation configuration and configuration context and metadata patches. The metadata patch in fact split into three issues discussing the format. See http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/issues/focus for an overview.
In short, we have lots to cover and clean up. Come be involved!
This IRC meeting is in the #drupal-i18n channel on IRC. See http://drupal.org/irc for more information. The time above is marked with UTC - check in your own timezone.
See you all there!
Meetings are every other week at the same time on Wednesdays. Check out http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/events for the calendar of upcoming meetings.
Read moreFeedback needed on configuration metadata formats
In a beautiful 320+ comment thread we discussed introducing a metadata format for configuration in Drupal 8 to use for identifying translatable strings, potentially generate translation forms for configuration (or per-group or per-domain configuration) and possibly other uses (such as validation).
Our primary use case is multilingual configuration, and our efforts were not successful to get the change in core. If we want to be able to translate views, content types, user notification email text, and so on at least as shipped with core and contributed modules (even if not the configuration you create on your own site), we have no way to avoid solving this problem.
The most contentious question that contributed to the original patch series being turned down was how metadata is defined for configuration (file format and underlying system used), where (file naming and placement) and how you refer to metadata of outside dependencies. To explore this problem space, we now have not less than three parallel efforts lead by a star lineup of core contributors, @chx, @effulgentsia and @reyero. We all want to productively push forward and move on to other things once this one is successfully resolved, so your feedback is welcome on all three issues:
- One using kwalify and typed data: #1866610: Yet another schema format for Drupal configuration (Based on kwalify)
- Another one using typed data only: #1865300: Introduce configuration definition file format and API for reading it
- And finally one not even using typed data: #1861640: Provide config metadata solely for translation
For a short summary of how we ended up needing a metadata system of some sort, see https://drupal.org/node/1648930#comment-6840700 (and/or the design goals in the original metadata issue summary). If you have questions, find us on in IRC and on the issues!
Thanks a lot for your input!
Read moreD8 Timelines Updated!
Hi everyone,
D8 Timelines are up to date with:
1) Milestones for Long & Short term!
2) The mother of all Drupal 8 Milestone Spreadsheets full of details that just won't quit if you want to know the nitty gritty and what's "current" at any given time.
Hope this is helpful to you all & I hope we can soon get some monthly sprints organized around these bad boys!
-Shan
PS: Check out Gabor's D8MI creation if you haven't yet seen it! http://www.drupal8multilingual.org/
Read moreFirst Drupal 8 multilingual user testing results
One of the key things I wanted to do in the Drupal 8 Multilingual Initiative after the December 1st feature freeze hits is to go and do lots of user testing of the functionalities we built and adapt the user interfaces and flows to make it easier to build multilingual sites (and then test it again). Not many people believed this would actually happen (when you say in an issue you'll follow up with more user testing, and so on, it can be seen as just a way out to move on). However I've got outstanding help from Bojhan Somers, Dharmesh Mistry and Lisa Rex on best practices for user testing. I not only got help on the tools to use, but also building out a concrete test plan with Dharmesh and Bojhan actively involved. To say the test was well prepared is an understatement.
Read moreDrupal 8 Multilingual Initiative meeting on December 5th, 2012
Although we are past feature freeze, some of our critical features are still waiting for core committers to review and/or are blocked by those not being committed, but we can still work on rough edges and discuss upcoming plans and next steps.
This IRC meeting is in the #drupal-i18n channel on IRC. See http://drupal.org/irc for more information. The time above is marked with UTC - check in your own timezone.
See you all there!
From now on, meetings will be every other week at the same time on Wednesdays. Check out https://www.google.com/calendar/render?cid=dam0221tfl5ehajftlpkskhgsk%40... for the calendar of upcoming meetings.
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D8 Mobile Initiative Meeting #25
Please join us for our next Mobile Initiative meeting to discuss issues related to the Drupal 8 mobile initiative. The meeting will be held as a Google+ Hangout (online video) with concurrent text chat in #drupal-mobile on IRC at:
Tuesday, December 4:
San Francisco — 11am
New York — 2pm
London — 7pm
Taipei — 3am (Wednesday)
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Last Drupal 8 Multilingual Initiative meeting before feature freeze! (on November 30th, 2012)
We are a mere hours before feature freeze as this meeting is being held. I know people in the Drupal 8 Multilingual Initiative have been working really hard to meet this deadline and almost all of our patches are up in a row for commit with final help text refinements. So for that great work I'd love to send a wink and a high-five to all who cannot attend the meeting.
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