drupaleo - talent growing and hiring for drupal

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peterzoe's picture

Status: Removed from consideration at the 2 October 2008 review meeting

drupaleo's desired goal is twofold:
- to enlarge and foster the drupal community's overall talent by helping current and future drupalists to grow their individual talent
- to support team building (staffing) for drupal projects

drupaleo's desired outcome is to build and run a platform that integrates people, projects and knowledge for drupal.

How does your proposal meet the stated goals of the Knight Drupal Initiative program?: 

the third goal of the knight drupal initiative appears to be met most:
free exchange of information (drupal knowledge) and ideas (commercial or non-commercial drupal projects) to help the drupal community grow and find drupal talent seems to be the common goal of kdi and drupaleo.

How long will your project take to complete?: 

most of the platform's desired functionality is already in place (for the current status please check http://test.drupaleo.net). there are some open issues (mostly usability and performance issues) that will need to be worked on by true experts for about three month.

How will you implement and distribute your project?: 

currently I am the only person working constantly on the project.
my plan is to found a german non-commercial legal association ('eingetragener verein') to be able to be funded and collect donations for keeping the platform up and running. From a legal perspective at least seven persons (supporters, maintainers, etc.) are required to found this association.

What is your total budget estimate and how much funding are you requesting: 

as I view my personal strength to be solution architecture, the project will require additional work of true designers and developers (not of 'hackers' like myself).
Rough estimation of effort for building the platform:
- graphical concept and design -> (10 days)
- theme development -> (20 days)
- module development and go-live support (performance optimization and code review) -> (40 days)
--> 70 days/560 hours of mostly developer work ($100/per hour) sum up to $56,000 in total.
Cost/effort to keep the platform running should afterwards be financed by donations/additional fundraising.

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where did the file go?

peterzoe's picture

I attached a pdf to show the drupaleo concept, solution design and todos. Can't find it any more. Does anyone know where it went?

Niot sure

agentrickard's picture

Sometimes the file uploads fil due to connection errors. You should be able to edit the post and attach a file. If not, I can, so use my contact form to tell me where I can get a copy.

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Why not use/improve drupal.org or groups.drupal.org?

dgorton's picture

Between d.o. and g.d.o., I believe all of this functionality and information exist. Do you have specific ideas about how those are lacking and how they ought to be improved? If so, perhaps your ideas should go towards helping implement those changes here -- especially with the Drupal.org redesign process under way,

Drew Gorton
Gorton Studios

what over where

peterzoe's picture

Hi Drew,

I am planning to install a somewhat specialised platform in terms of functionality and information, mainly focusing on integrational aspects. Please check the attached pdf document to decide if the concept could or should go into drupal.org. I would love to have the concept run and I don't care so much where this would be.

cheers, Peter.

requires some pre-proposal track building

greggles's picture

Getting things running on *drupal.org requires a proven track record. I suggest you do some work in the Infrastructure Queue and/or Drupalorg Module Queue and/or Project* module queues to build a track record. Without that, your proposal is to build something which I believe should simply be integrated into *drupal.org itself.

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Hi greggles, thanks for your

peterzoe's picture

Hi greggles,

thanks for your comment and also for your cool video tutorials. Wish I had discovered them earlier...
For personal reasons I currently do not have the time to get involved too deeply with drupal.org or building a track record (father of two, overtime job). I would have loved to find some support here to get this (what I believe) somewhat innovative platform concept going for drupal (with or without the help of money), but from the vast amount of feedback and votes I figure I should turn somewhere else...
Just one last question: If you thought you had a nice project and did not know 'all the guys', where would you turn to?

cheers, peter.

lots of places (includng right here)

greggles's picture

http://drupal.org/node/51169 documents it fully, but one of the places is the "Jobs" tab up top right here on g.d.o

As another father of two, I

dgorton's picture

As another father of two, I can definitely understand those boundaries and the lack of free time it implies. My own Drupal activities are largely be confined to business hours - I'm just fortunate enough to be able to do this as part of my work.

And, while it may be too late, my advice would be to not to take criticism/skepticism too hard. This is a good community and it's full of great people. The KDI Initiative, however, adds a level of scrutiny to everyone's comments; the act of asking for money for a project forces everyone to ask "what is this, for whom and why does it deserve funding?". Drupal and FLOSS in general have always been pushed forward by individuals seeing something they want to address and going for it -- scratching your own itch. There are lots of people who've pushed Drupal forward by doing precisely this, and I think we'd all be sad if you were discouraged from continued involvement in Drupal by having had a less-than-positive experience here.

On the contrary, I would encourage you to share your good ideas with the hopes of making d.o. and g.d.o. better places. The goals you articulated are great. The PDF isn't around any longer to review (and I never did see it), but I suspect that there are at least three constructive outlets for what you're hoping to do:
The Drupal.org redesign plan for the Drupal Association group is actively trying to plan and build a better g.d.o and d.o. experience for everyone -- so that's a great conversation to join.
Likewise, the Drupal Dojo is all about trying to share Drupal knowledge with others.
Finally, You already have http://test.drupaleo.net/ running - and sometimes good ideas can best be communicated by examples -- so you can certainly continue to grow and evolve that site.

In my opinion, though, I think you'll have a much greater chance for impact if your ideas are picked up by the main *.Drupal.org websites - and now is an excellent point in time to be sharing great ideas as the community is actively working on improving these sites.

Drew Gorton
Gorton Studios

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peterzoe's picture

I was able to upload the file in this comment...and delete it...

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agentrickard's picture

I am against splitting this off from the community site. Rating 1.

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