DrupalCon BoF: accessibility in D8

Posted by Hanno on August 15, 2011 at 9:48am

Start:

2011-08-23 14:15 - 15:15 Europe/London

Organizers:

mgifford

Hanno

Jeff Burnz

Event type:

User group meeting

We have planned a meeting on accessibility in D8 on Tuesday 14:15 BST during DrupalCon London. In looking ahead to building Drupal 8 we want to talk about how we can best approach AA compliance of the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines (WCAG) 2.0. Implementing the accessibility gate in a way that is understandable by Drupal developers, providing useful examples to make it easier for them to grapple with the challenges of accessibility.

We will also be discussing the still draft Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines (ATAG) 2.0 and it's implications for Drupal core. Hope to see you there!

http://london2011.drupal.org/bofsession/accessibility-drupal-8

UPDATE: For those we can't attend London, we will provide access by Skype, please leave your skype address.

Note that during DrupalCon there are several core sessions relevant for WCAG/ATAG: on Wednesday: 10:30 WYSIWYG in core, 13:45 and 15:00 updates from the Drupal 8 initiatives, 15:00 better D8 editorial workflow

Comments

Regrets

Posted by bowersox on August 15, 2011 at 2:24pm

I wish I could join you in London. Please take notes and let the group know the outcomes. Have a jolly good time!

www.pixotech.com

I'd like to join via Skype

Posted by Everett Zufelt on August 15, 2011 at 2:37pm

I'd like to join via Skype (ezufelt) if that works for the group. I am a bit confused by the date of the BoF, the posting says the 23rd, but also says Thursday, and there is no Thursday the 23rd.

Thanks

Accessibility Consultant & Web Developer - Zufelt.ca
@ezufelt on Twitter | LinkedIn profile

+1

Posted by bowersox on August 15, 2011 at 3:20pm

+1 for attending by Skype (brandonbowersox is my Skype name)

www.pixotech.com

Count me in for a Skype

Posted by dcmouyard on August 15, 2011 at 5:06pm

Count me in for a Skype meeting as well. (dcmouyard)

@dcmouyard on Twitter

Hi Everett. thanks, is

Posted by Hanno on August 15, 2011 at 3:03pm

Hi Everett. thanks, is corrected. And yes, good idea to join via Skype. Others interested as well?

skype meeting

Posted by AndyHeath on August 15, 2011 at 9:47pm

I'm up for this as well.

andy

WCAG 2.0, Level AA Accessibility

Posted by Inspector508 on August 18, 2011 at 7:04pm

This is Todd from the University of Iowa. We're just scratching the surface of Drupal here--three or four departments are letting our central web group pilot. We have a couple of really sharp developers and a deep commitment to accessibility. What we're missing is a good understanding of our options for integrating the two. Some things I'd very much like to know--an incomplete list:

How to add uncommon attributes to HTML tags (e.g.,

, or
)
Setting divs and other regions as ARIA landmarks (aria-live, aria-required)
Scanning ALT text for relevance, or at least scanning to prohibit file names
Setting tab index, accesskey, other keyboard controls
Validating nested heading structure (e.g., ensuring that

h2> doesn't move straight to

h4>)

...and about a thousand other details. For what it's worth, I'm the web accessibility coordinator here; my job is to work with developers and designers to define best practices for the WCAG guidelines.

todd-weissenberger@uiowa.edu

Hello Todd It seems that some

Posted by Everett Zufelt on August 18, 2011 at 7:19pm

Hello Todd

It seems that some of the markup you were intending to use as an example didn't make it through the filter, or was actually rendered. This group would be happy to help point you in the right direction to find answers to your questions. However, may I ask that you please post your comment as a new discussion, rather than a comment on this thread about the Drupalcon London BoF (unless you are going to be attending the BoF).

Accessibility Consultant & Web Developer - Zufelt.ca
@ezufelt on Twitter | LinkedIn profile

Great Meeting

Posted by mgifford on August 25, 2011 at 2:19pm

We had a great meeting yesterday. Andrew, Michael, Ivan, (I think someone else), and I were there. Brought in Everett over Skype.

I'm nowhere near as good as Brandon at taking notes from the meeting, but will try to put some thought into a summary of our discussion with the help of others.

There was interest in organizing another Skype call to talk about accessibility issues in D8.

EDIT: Notes from Hanno
1. general bug fixing D8
2. form API (multifield, fieldset, vertical tabs, collapsed, summarise etc)
3. aria
4. html5
5. modal dialog accessible API
6. language tagging

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Yep, great meeting, here are my notes

Posted by andrewmacpherson on September 8, 2011 at 12:51am

Hi folks,

Just checking in after DC London. It was a great meeting, though small. I came away with the impression that there are lots of folk keen to move usability forward, but nowhere near the same momentum for accessibility. So it looks like this would be a good part of D8 for me to get involved with :-)

My notes are very messy scribbles, but here's some extra detail of what we discussed:

D8 issues:

Custom logo requires custom alt attribute in core themes - http://drupal.org/node/717708
I mentioned that I had some working code for this, as a D6 module which I never got round to completing. I should dig it out for people to look at soon
WCAG 2.0 - we would like to aim for this in D8 core, but we need ideas for how to audit this.
Monitor new UI patterns that may come into D8 core via the Usability group and/or HTML5 initiative
(such as this one... Replace collapsible-fieldsets with Summaries - http://drupal.org/node/190946)
HTML5 - discussed the <details> and <summary> elements for collapsed fieldsets.
ARIA in D8 - can we set ARIA stuff as FAPI properties, to be used when rendering HTML output?
Skip Links - currently there is a problem with error messages. Messages were moved to their own region in D7 instead of main content. The problem is that skip-to-main-content bypasses these. In the scenario of form submissions, unsuccessful validation error messages ARE part of the main content (likewise indications for succesful submissions). Is there already a D8 issue about this?
Skip Links again - briefly discussed other use-cases for skip links, apart from main-content:
- skip-to-search
- skip-to-login
- skip-to-logout
One idea was to have skip links as a Drupal menu instead of the hard-coded one in D7 templates, but currently drupal menus can't have a #fragment identifier.

There was other stuff relating to language contexts and modal dialogs, but I made hardly any notes on these.

+1 for Skype / IRC meetings. I've enjoyed dropping in on the fortnightly usablity happy hours.

Thanks Andrew

Posted by mgifford on September 8, 2011 at 9:20pm

Glad you changed your photo here. This doesn't capture everyone who was at the Accessibility BoF, but I was a bit slow to bring out the camera - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgifford/6078547430/

These notes are great. Thanks for sharing them & I look forward to talking with you more on Skype.