Municipal Site Installation development

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sethcohn's picture

Thanks to everyone who attended the DrupalCon SF 2010 BOAF sessions on Local Government (and State/Federal too).

As discussed at those sessions, a number of us are planning on working on one (or more) distributions geared toward some level of municipal solution. While it's clear that Federal and Town level solutions are going to be very different, the differences between a Town and Village might be minor, and between a City and Town solution merely a matter of more complex departments (for example). The Split between State/Fed and Local seems like a natural one, and I think a good way to avoid introducing too many variables into the mix. If someone from a State department/focus decides to adapt the 'Municipal' solution to meet their needs, more power to them of course.

Brian Gilday of aha consulting has pledged large pieces of their codebase already in use successfully on a number of sites as a starting basis for this distribution/profile.

After sitting in on some discussions of the state of installation profiles on drupal.org, it seems that D7 is likely going to end up far better supported in the long run (ie by the time full d.o support for profiles is complete, D7 will be production quality), while in the meantime, D6 is the realistic short term target, but better done as a less 'fully automated' answer.

With that in mind, I'm proposing the following:

1) A D7 target for an installation profile on drupal.org. Based on our D6 code (see #2), we'll shoot for being ready for D7 release sometime after D7 is out (6 months or so?), when all of the modules we use in D6 are D7 ready, features and other external code are better supported in installation profiles, and other stumbling blocks are resolved. This would be the long term goal, including trying to ensure that a migration path existed from any D6 code released in the meantime.

2) A D6 codebase, built as a mix of features, some sort of drush make install profile, external libraries, etc. Likely hosted off of d.o, due to the mix, but open and public, a rich ecosystem of developers to get it featureful, and hopefully in use in a variety of places. The goal is to have something ready quickly as a base, to spur discussion and feature development, and still allow supportable deployment, including commercial support by developers interested in this market.

3) Discussion will remain on g.d.o. (the 2 gov groups) and/or in a profile issue queue, with the potential of a dedicated demo website in the future.

4) Wiki discussions to address feature potentials, goals, problems, principles, and other bigger picture discussions best held by the community to help focus development better. Accessibility, User experience and other big picture issues will certainly be topics, though hopefully we can stay focused on the direct case, and direct larger discussions to appropriate venues such as other g.d.o groups and/or issue queues for respective modules.

How can you help?
Post with your interest level, your desired contribution level (coding, theming, testing, etc), focus (if any), relationship (developer, user, governmental bureaucrat with a large budget to fund development (wink wink nudge nudge), etc), questions and more...

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I'm on board

bgilday's picture

Seth, I hope to have a D6 version of our code ready to act as an "alpha" local government distribution within the next two weeks or so, and then we can make it available to this group for further feedback.

I also need to setup a wiki page here to provide the list of initial proposed features that we discussed at DrupalCon.

By the way, thanks again to everyone who participated in the Birds of a Feather (BOF) sessions. It was great to see so many people turn out who are interested in making it easier for government agencies to get up and running with Drupal. In total, I counted over 30 individuals who participated in these sessions.

Brian Gilday
Municode
www.municode.com

Thanks for the BOF!

haoleboy's picture

Thanks for a great BOF at DrupalCon, and sorry I had to leave early.

My situation is probably lowest in the food chain, but I'm willing to test as a user.

I live in an unincorporated portion of my county in California, and we just went through a bruising and narrowly unsuccessful election attempt to become a Town. Politically, I may not see another attempt in my lifetime, and it took a decade to get to that point, but what remains is a vacuum of information resources. My "village" does not provide traditional services, but we have community organizations that do (e.g. park, pool), as well as tax districts that fund fire, ambulance and schools. Our news comes from the large daily far away, so that's another hole to fill with local news.

I'd love to see a distribution we could start with and provide a few key features that could unite a community. If the politics ever change, then the distribution could also move towards a town site without too much disruption. Or is that wishful thinking?

Thanks again!

Greg

On board!

verta's picture

I am with a medium sized city that is starting to use D6 as a collaborative and content management platform. Happy to help by testing or documenting!

Local County Government

kdhartstrom's picture

Hello, I'd be happy to be involved in this project as well. We are working on using drupal for a local county government in California. We've been pulling ourselves up by our own bootstraps so to speak during our project as we learn drupal, and I think we have the basics down, but still have a ways to go before we put the site into production.

I could test things out, or offer suggestions about the requirements for our local government.

Brian and I have talked before, and from what I've seen, he has hit the nail on the head with a configuration that will meet the needs of local governments, and I'm looking forward to what could come out of this.

Kirk

count me in

chicagomom's picture

As a muni webmaster currently using Drupal 6, I would love to be involved in this effort. Couldn't go to DrupalConSF, but am very happy to hear so many participated in the BoF! How can I help?

chicagomom on Twitter and d.o.

drupal developer

akondagunta's picture

Hey guys,
I was at the BoF meeting at drupalcon SF and it was just awesome to see everyone so interested in organizing a drupal municipal installation. I am a drupal developer who can put in around 5-10 hours a week on this. Please let me know if I can be of assistance.

@sethcohn and @bgilday thanks

cghobbs's picture

@sethcohn and @bgilday thanks for taking the initiative to get this going. I wasn't able to attend DrupalCon but I am very interested in this distrubution and would love to help out.

@sethcohn where would we be looking at hosting the code for this d.o CVS or something else? Let me know as I may be able to be of some assistance there setting it up.

Someplace else...

sethcohn's picture

As I mentioned, doing D6 distro work on d.o is difficult at best. Hopefully, the d.o distro code/infrastructure will solve the problems for D7 sooner than later... but a D6 version really needs to live someplace else, for sanity's sake, as well as to allow 3rd party code, custom features, etc.

Do we want to host it on

cghobbs's picture

Do we want to host it on GitHub?

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