My web host uses CPanel and I get 2 TB of space with unlimited domains for just $144/year. CPanel comes with Fantastico, which is the only way I've been able to get Drupal of any type working so far, but I can only install 6.2 that way because that is what Fantastico uses (at this time).
I would like to learn CMS and graduate from Dreamweaver so I can become a more valuable webmaster. But I seem to be caught up in installation SNAFUs and certainly need to upgrade and have the option to use other versions of Drupal.
I was thinking multisite made sense since I envisioned having a number of clients with a variety of needs so I subscribed to this group, but after reading many posts, mostly scratching my head wondering what they mean, it seems that the focus of multi-site is on something else.
Is there anyone here who could indulge me on describing the basic typical uses of multi-site and just tell me whether multi-site is the totally wrong approach for what I am trying to do? Please keep in mind that I am a novice and actually quite frustrated with drupal at this time. I was told it would be easy but the experience so far is that nothing ever works.
Possibly, what I need is a different web hosting solution. I would be open to recommendations. I am on a very limited budget, though. Is there anyone who would work on a client/commission basis and help me with set ups, maybe help me along a bit with some consulting for a share in my client revenues?
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cpanel *ack*
Shared hosting, cpanel, and Fantastico are a recipe for disaster. A VPS will have a steeper learner curve, but you will learn how to work with an actual server, with transferable skills to any other server.
Lots of the other posts in this group are unfortunately about all sorts of crazy contortions about shared databases and content, rather than Drupal multisite, which simply means running many Drupal sites, with their own database, from one single codebase of Drupal core and contributed modules.
While you are still struggling to get a single system up and running, I don't think you are ready to explore Drupal multisite yet -- which is difficult if not impossible to set up on a CPanel system (they do all sorts of weird things with domains and subdomains....).
True, what about a VPS …
You are absolutely right. I can't tell you how many hours of time I have wasted attempting to get Drupal installed with that combo, and for the domains I sub-host in my TB package, and do work-arounds. It totally doesn't work and it has put me no less than six months back in getting started with Drupal.
Now I can't afford to pay for a VPS, but I do have some client prospects. So at this point I'm wondering whether I could use somebody else's VPS, and perhaps some of their experience, and just share some of my revenues from my clients as they come in. Anyone interested in extra money? Feel free to send me PMs.
James Carvin
Thank you for your help!
James Carvin
Thank you for your help!
I have a vps with
I have a vps with vpsempire.com just to play with. It is very low spec and often runs out of memory but has given me a much better idea of how to run a VPS for just $4.95 a month.
Fantastico/Local Dev/multisite
Fantastico has had a history of not keeping up to date with Drupal security updates and then applying updates to a Fantastico Drupal install is not very clean (or hasn't been in the past from posts/emails I have read from folks who have tried). I really recommend learning to install Drupal the "Drupal way" so you can install it anywhere even when installer helpers aren't available.
You may want to play with Drupal on your local workstation/laptop by downloading MAMP for Mac or XAMPP for Windows. This will setup a local development web app serving environment so you can install Drupal and other apps to learn. Oh.. and you can setup a local multisite using these tools to learn how multisite works. Local test/dev is just a great way to go with Drupal.
Mutisite is not a panacea, but a great tool when needed. I have done a bit of both and it all depends on the hosted environment. For cpanel hosts, I always deploy separate Drupal installs. As Boris has mentioned, cpanel is not the best place for multisite generally speaking. Cpanel is setup to provide shared hosting. If you try tun run multisite with cpanel, you can introduce a number of security concerns because of the permissions changes and possible apache tweaks that need to be made.
Hope this helps,
Shrop
XAMPP
I did use my home computer to develop a couple of sites in different versions. But then I couldn't get the install to work on my shared hosting once I had it somewhat tweaked. It was all a waste of time.
James Carvin
Thank you for your help!
James Carvin
Thank you for your help!
James, It definitely isn't a
James,
It definitely isn't a wast of time to develop locally. Most Drupal devs seems to do it that way. There are some tricks. ex: before you migrate your mysql data, make sure to clear the cache tables. Depending on what the issues were, could be other things that need to be fixed. I move sites between local dev, test servers and prod servers quite a bit so I know it is doable.
Thanks!
Shrop
Troubles to set up multisite using Domain Access
Hi Shrop:
Can you help me to install a multisite using Domain Access. Really i'm searching a while ago and have troubles to setup the right way to make it works.
Thank you.
Manuel
*_*
@shrop
I used to doing the same thing from local to a server!! And till the date, it works fine for me. :)
@james
Rather than just relying on fantastico, upload the latest Drupal version manually on the already installed one. But most important thing is to take a back up first. So, whenever there is an upgrade available for any module, just do the same thing, with taking backup first, of course!
I have a very bad experience with shared hosting, I can not even run my site b'coz of the memory limited to just 32M. I need more than that.
About configuring multi site.
First of all, make this clear with your web host that how do they provide services for Drupal? and also explain your side. Most of the time, hosting providers are hiding truth.
:)
Beautifulmind
BeautifulMind
Memory limit of Shared hosting
Hi:
About that point i have fixed using the code : ini_set('memory_limit', '96M'); in the settings.php file no matter if the shared hosting has a 32 MB of memory.
Version Control
Hey Guys,
I'm not sure if this is the right place or not but I was wondering if using Fantastico if you can control the version of Drupal being installed. Personally, I find Drupal 6 easier and better than Drupal 7.