Posted by mlangfeld on May 5, 2011 at 3:29pm
web management
0% (0 votes)
web administration
0% (0 votes)
site administration
0% (0 votes)
troubleshooting
0% (0 votes)
other
0% (0 votes)
Total votes: 0
Comments
Add comment if you vote other, please
In order to gather more information about your search pattern, please let us know if you would use other terms when searching on drupal.org
Best, Marilyn
possibly this is an area
possibly this is an area where information could be presented as being FOR a certain functional group, but could be findable under search by a range of tags
it would help if once people hit a page that was largely targeted at site administrators, it was clear to them they were in the right place where similar related pages would be found (through nav or in-page links)
Unclear distinction in terms and realms?
This poll title makes me unsure about its focus and scope, and if it belongs in this Group at all.
It would perhaps be more logical if this GROUP name was clear on this in the first place.
The question itself leaves it to guess whether it is focused on "Drupal administration" (Site Administrators) or "content management". If I should guess, your usage of the term "web management" refers to "site management" or "site administration", and not to "content management", right?
The terms that this poll asks about leads me to that assumption:
- "web management" (currently 2 votes)
- "web administration" (currently 0 votes)
- "site administration" (currently 5 votes)
- "troubleshooting" (currently 0 votes)
- "other" (currently 1 vote)
Looking at the fact that 63% currently voted "site administrator", I wonder if:
a) Is this question posted in the wrong group? If I am not mistaken, this group is focused on "content management" and not specifically on "site administration"? Or is it also the meaning that we should discuss the more technical aspects of "Drupal administration" or "site administration" here in this group? (I am actually not entirely sure, and I have made a comment about that in the post I link to below here).
b) If your poll is indeed about managing content and not the more technical site administration, maybe you can check out the comments in the following discussion, and clarify in the introduction text to your poll? (even its title?)(or make a separate poll with other/more options?):
"Exploring web manager & content editor topics"
http://groups.drupal.org/node/143274
Ref. my comment there:
"Terms - distinguishing between site and content realms"
http://groups.drupal.org/node/143274#comment-493424
Anyway, the terms I would use for searching in those distinct realms are:
- "content management" for the content realm (and Editors tasks)
- "site administration" for searches about Administering a Drupal site (technical work, strictly speaking not related to the tasks of a Content Manager)
From my point of view as a non-native English speaker, the term "Web Manager" (or "web management") is ambigous. It leaves me unclear as of which of the two distinct realms it refers to.
Very good point
Very good point, Taxoman. There is certainly ambiguity in the term Web Manager. Especially from the point of view of businesses/organizations who hire people to manage their web sites. And that's critical to understand as Drupal is used in larger organizations, because they hire: web managers, website managers, web content managers, web content strategists, web administrators, website administrators, webmasters, etc.
Sometimes it's IT hiring, sometimes it's Marketing, sometimes it's Communications or External Relations, etc. Standardization is difficult, since there is none in the world out there. I was hired as a Web and Design Manager. You'll find that smaller organizations mash skillsets together, to see if they can have two jobs done by one person. That happens all the time.
I'm a member of several groups on LinkedIn, including Web Managers and Web Managers Roundtable. The first was created by a British web manager, so I assume the term is acceptable not only in the US but also in England.
How do we resolve this? I don't know, I just know that non-programmers who are "managing" Drupal websites need to be able to find out how to solve common issues in non-technical terms whenever possible.
There are training programs, there are support contracts with development companies. I was fortunate to have access to both. Not all web managers (non-programmers), have that access, so I'd like to see drupal.org offer some more basic support, and to help web managers know where to look for their issues. And to understand that not all site administrators (which I was) are developers.
Best, Marilyn
Sorry folks, my error
I just realized that the issue that Taxoman brought up might be because I published this to the Prairie Initiative, so depublished it from that group, only to learn that my editing of the poll reset it.
So, if you would please re-enter your votes and feel free to ask for other terms in comments. I see now that editing isn't a good idea :)
Best, Marilyn
seems like it's lost the
seems like it's lost the radio buttons to vote with
oops
Joe's right, it won't let you vote.
I have no clue what category to put myself in anyway. My past titles have been Content Specialist and Online Learning Specialist. Basically I maintain the content of the website, given to me by other people, but I do also create small sites. So I guess I'm an other??? lol