Posted by crea on July 11, 2011 at 2:19pm
There are lots of jobs posted at g.d.o. but I find it hard to find remote ones. Most positions require being in the office (either periodically or constantly) while I know for sure there's a great market for freelancers.
Do we have any way to differentiate remote jobs VS office ones ? Reading whole job descriptions is not what I would call convenient :-(
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Choose telecommute
Hi,
I look for freelancer jobs regularly on this site. All you have to do is goto the main jobs page, http://groups.drupal.org/jobs. Then select allowed from the telecommute dropdown from the filters and click apply. You can also filter jobs by group and employment type, such as full-time or contract positions. I hope that helps.
Cheers,
Jason
http://arborwebdevelopment.com
Job filtering here totally
Job filtering here totally sux. Thats why I never searched for a job here.
How would you like the job
How would you like the job filtering to work?
This is something that can be changed pretty easily so if you want it to stop sucking the best thing to do is ask for a change instead of just saying "this sux."
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I wanted to create a forum
I wanted to create a forum topic about this issue but I didnt have time yet. Here are some quick notes(this is all filters):
- who is offering a job: a private person, a company, a freelancer
- what kind of work it is: creating a whole website, theming(from provided design), creating a deisng, programming a specific module/functionality, ...
- location of the client
- way of work: in office, home. if in office, how much hours are required per week and how much can be done from home
- is it one time job, repeating job or full time job offer
- when it is due (if)
- who can apply for the job: locals(city), locals(country/nation), everyone(world)
- language requirements(english, german, italian, french, dutch....) + level + type(write, speak(skype))..
- it would be nice to have a DB of clients with some ranking system so we(freelancers) can see who are we dealing with and vice versa(like ebay :D )
- salay: per hour(if so what is the range), per project, milestones..
- payment options(wire transfer, paypal, .... OR some non-financial trade)
Thats all for now. Maybe I'll think of something later.
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Lots of great suggestions there. I've been trying to find a job and it's frustrating because I'm specifically looking for employment, not contract work and it has to be completely telecommute. Even checking the telecommute option brings up tons that require you to be local to the job and there's no way to filter out the contract work. I'd also like to filter it by skill level required since I'm looking for something closer to entry level and 99% of what I see is looking for senior devs.
Sounds like you're asking for a lot
Hi Michelle,
I'm not trying to be discouraging, but as someone who has managed large teams of people and has also been freelance/telecommute for many yeas, I can tell you that you won't find a lot of what you're looking for. For a company to hire someone for 100% telecommute who can't even come in for interviews or meetings takes a large degree of trust. Because of that most telecommuting jobs look for higher end developers who have a history of success - they're basically riding on the trust of the person's former work history as an indicator that they will do quality work with little to no supervision. Telecommute and senior do often go together and there are reasons for that.
Good luck, but you may need to modify your criteria a bit.
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That make sense. I don't have much of a work history as Drupal has been a hobby for me all these years while I was an at home mom. But I do have quite a bit of history on drupal.org so hopefully enough community karma that someone will be willing to give me a chance to start out with a Drupal career. :)
PM
just PM'd you a reply.
You are both right.
It is true that saying something "sucks" is neither polite nor community-oriented. But the person writing the post is right. It is a horrible job list that uses virtually no criteria regarding even geographic location. A listing like this should be done using the power of Drupal, with its taxonomy and Views. The obvious criteria are location and job type (full-time, part-time, contract). Breaking it down to job titles is far trickier and I'm not sure I would tackle that one. Possibly including particular job skills in a taxonomy list would work well (writing, graphic design including CSS, custom module development, LAMP stack, etc.)
Are you using the same form
Are you using the same form that I see at g.d.o/jobs?
Because when I go there I see the ability to search by organic groups and the locations are all organic groups. For example, jobs in new york city or London, UK or even London, Ontario.
There is an exposed search field if someone wants to find javascript they can do that.
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Unfortunately, telecommute can mean different things
In many cases, telecommute means "you must live in the same area, city, state". Also many jobs do not allow non-US citizens (for legal reasons, probably).
But thanks for the link anyway! I somehow missed the selector.
Currently if I wanted to find completely remote job, I would search on freelance sites like odesk.com. But the problem with these sites is they are overcrowded with cheap labor and its hard for a client to know your level of competence, while it's easy to do that on Drupal.org just by looking at your profile.
I have found it to work very well
I do most of my work by telecommute aside form some local work in my area, and I haven't had a problem with contacting jobs that are tagged telecommute. Every now and then you will find a poster that didn't know what they were doing, but in most cases I find telecommute jobs that can I work with people across the US and possibly elsewhere in the world. There was one job I did not get due to it being out of the US myself, so I could see that being tough for you trying to get jobs in the US being in Russia.
I have had similar results with sites like odesk.com. It's a much more drawn out process to get a gig, but every so often you find a good match. There are also clients just looking for someone who can speak English instead of having to be in the US specifically. It seems like you do that well enough to fit into that category :) The problem as you said though, is that you are going up bidding against a development company with hundreds of developers passing themselves off as a freelancer that probably charge 1/3 your price per hour. People get what they pay for in the end though.
I have actually found the best results by creating my own website and putting my available services on the site. I get a lot of local business, but I have also gotten clients from around the country. Make sure to add a phone number and a contact form and you will find yourself busy in no time :)
Good luck,
Jason
http://arborwebdevelopment.com
I can echo what sk33lz said.
I can echo what sk33lz said. oDesk gave me my start, but I get a fair amount of interest by attending local Drupal meetups and having my own site (I think one thing led to another). oDesk was a fairly low barrier to get established (because I did have the skills), and once I got past the one-job barrier, it was basically smooth sailing. I hardly even have to seek out work very actively anymore these days. It's a developer's market at the moment anyway, for better or worse.
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Local Drupal meetups ++
Local Drupal meetups are a great way to find work. In my area, there are constantly people showing up to meetups to find developers and consultants.
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That's so true. 99% of my
That's so true. 99% of my clients are local.
It is extremely hard to compete with foreign developers because currency is different so they are able to charge way less.
Best advise: create a little porfolio so everyone can see your work.
Promote yourself in twitter, facebook etc and meetups !
& I bet work will come your way.
^_^
Daily remote project updates
There is a facebook group (http://www.facebook.com/freelancermapInternational) with daily IT-remote project updates. From time to time there are some .Net related remote projects too.
What about E-lance?
What are your thoughts about E-lance? the pricing per hour varies, but I think it is a good way to begin creating a International network: once you have worked with clients in a particular country, others are more accessible, since you have built up experience within their borders. It is sometimes difficult to build the trust required, when you are several time-zones away, clients might feel insecure. Having references goes a long way (Even from E-lance). I still believe that some sort of Drupal Certification might help build bridges for Developers internationally.
RE: What about E-lance?
oDesk and E-lance are now the same you are able to sign in to both with the same account. Fyi.
Do good work and don't compete
I've been freelance for about 13 years. I live in NYC, an area where there is plenty of work locally, yet I've had clients in London, Los Angeles, Chicago, Milan, New Hampshire etc just to name a few. I don't try to compete with cheap labor. I do good work and am known for it. Most of my work comes from repeat business and referrals and I don't look for work often - it usually comes in as needed. That said. I wouldn't use some of the places mentioned above because when I program I work with Drupal and I really don't want to sift through jobs that don't use drupal. There are times when I convince a client who doesn't know what they need to use Drupal but I don't want to convince someone that is invested in another technology, nor do I want to work in those other technologies. Therein lies the argument for a location independent Drupal freelance job board.
p.s. - I am currently working on a large drupal project which I am behind schedule on and am interested in bringing on someone to help it get back on track. Might be only a week or two of work, but feel free to contact me if interested. It is complex, content heavy and responsive. It uses SASS and COMPASS and the theme is a subtheme of Zen and uses Zen-grid. If you know all the things I'm talking about (I really don't have the time to help you get up to speed), let me know. I don't care where in the world you are as long as you can be reached at some points during my normal EST working hours.
That P.S. is exactly why there is some value in the idea of having a specific place for location independent Drupal freelance work.