Groups.Drupal.org sprint at Drupalcon San Francisco

Posted by greggles on April 13, 2010 at 3:26pm

Start:

2010-04-20 09:05 - 17:00 America/Los_Angeles

Organizers:

greggles

joshk

Event type:

User group meeting

Hello folks,

Josh Koenig and I are going to be sprinting at Drupalcon San Francisco to help make this site even better.

This will be on Thursday at the Post Conference Sprint. Exact location of where in that space we'll be sprinting is to be determined, but one of us will probably be tweeting about it.

If you have ideas on improvements let's brainstorm them in the comments. Ideas are welcome, plans to implement even better, and of course the time/skill to do the implementation even better! We'll be working on a staging site and will also need people to just help test the new features. So, there's opportunities for assistance for folks at all levels of Drupal skills.

Comments

highlight good content, reduce visibility of low quality content

Posted by greggles on April 13, 2010 at 3:34pm

As our fair site has grown we've got a few areas for optimization:

People often want to say "+1" or "I disagree" and little more than that. But in a group that gets mailed out immediately to hundreds of people short comments like that are somewhat inappropriate (and take too long).
Off-topic posts, trolls, and flamebait happen increasingly which hides the really valuable stuff.
We have some great moderators, but the front page is still manually moderated. Why not automatically promote the best content?

To help solve these I propose a set of solutions:

First is +1/-1 voting on posts/comments. Related to that I am thinking we could use some CSS/JS magic to hide the comments which have a certain rating (i.e. -5 votes means that a comment is hidden by default).
Next, use the radioactivity module to create lists of "hot" content within a group. These changes should help amplify the "good" content and hide the bad content.

If you are interested in these, the related modules I plan to use are http://drupal.org/project/vote_up_down and http://drupal.org/project/radioactivity so you can try those out, confirm they work reasonably well and get familiar with them. I've also created a video about the radioactivity module.

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In the groups I usually

Posted by corbacho on April 17, 2010 at 6:51pm

Good to hear about this sprint :D

In the groups I usually participate there is not so much trolls/spam but I would like to see highlighted the good content.

There is other suggestion I will like to make: Change the email template for the notifications.

Always they start like this:
Subject: groups.drupal.org High performance: Cache thrashing solution?
>

Greetings, corbacho,
A Discussion has been created in group High performance: Cache thrashing solution?

(message)

Looks this screenshot from gmail: http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3631/screenshotps.jpg
It's really painful to "scan" my emails for valuable stuff because the actual message is hidden with all that diplomatic but unnecessary words

Why not to remove all the obvious stuff or make it shorter. Suggestions:
Subject_1: Cache thrashing solution?
Subject_2: gdo - Cache thrashing solution?
Subject_3: Cache thrashing solution? (gdo)
Subject_4: Cache thrashing solution? (High Performance)
Subject_5: Cache thrashing solution? | gdo - High Performance

(message without any "greetings")

Specially remove the greetings. Other reason is because of the lack of difference between the text style of Greetings and the actual message. It's confusing

This module was supposed to

Posted by v8powerage on April 20, 2010 at 6:16pm

This module was supposed to be working like youtube comments (low voted are being unpublished), but it's not D6 http://drupal.org/project/comment_modr8

agree on digest template

Posted by verta on April 20, 2010 at 11:17pm

I've been systematically unsubscribing from gdo objects because the digest email is really hard to read, I can't tell which links are for which threads and I can't scan to tell whether any of it is even interesting.

Wish I could help sprint, but I have an appt. on Thurs. Happy coding!

agreed

Posted by kyle_mathews on April 25, 2010 at 4:21am

I'm actually in process of figuring out for a client how to make messaging send clean and readable digest emails. I'd be happy to share back whatever method we end up using.

Or we could just my new module OG Mailinglist :) but that's another discussion.

Kyle Mathews

Some design feedback on the rating thingie

Posted by yoroy on April 23, 2010 at 2:27pm

Ideally, the up/down arrows are placed near the actual points, makes it much more understandable what's going on. Putting it before the content is weird. Let me read first and the maaaaybe I'll rate it :)
A red arrow for +1? Red = bad, green = good is a pretty universal design heuristic.
Don't think it needs the outline around it, too much emphasis.

Will be interesting to see the hotlists this might give though!

Red/green color blindness

Posted by aaron on April 23, 2010 at 2:39pm

Unfortunately, red/green is not accessible to the approximately 10% of men who are red/green color blind. I would hope that another heuristic might be considered, or that at least the color not be the primary indicator.

Aaron Winborn
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patches are so very welcome :)

Posted by greggles on April 23, 2010 at 2:50pm

Thanks, guys!

I'm not a CSS/Design person, but am happy to roll out any changes. We are currently using the 1.x branch of Vote Up Down, but will probably switch to the 2.x branch "soon." So, any work that goes into the 2.x branch of that module will wind up here.

knaddison blog | Morris Animal Foundation

open issue

Posted by marvil07 on June 3, 2010 at 7:09am

better colours for plain widget, design help needed :-)

i concur! :-) thanks a bunch

Posted by arianek on April 25, 2010 at 3:27am

i concur! :-) thanks a bunch greggles and joshk for the improvements, it's always so rad to see g.d.o get some love!

Just wanted to agee and add another thought

Posted by arcaneadam on May 3, 2010 at 11:01pm

The UI of this isn't very good. It took me a few minutes to figure out what was going on with the arrows. It should IMHO actually show the + points and - points so you actually get a good idea of how many of each there were. if a post has 101+ and 100- then thats more relevant to a user to see that it is that active then just seeing 1 point. IDK if the Vote up/down module does this.

AI like the positioning of the arrows but the points should definitely be placed next to it so they are viewed in context.

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thread for style discussion

Posted by greggles on May 4, 2010 at 3:19am

The style discussion has been moved to a new thread and is now at http://groups.drupal.org/node/65763

knaddison blog | Morris Animal Foundation

Well, the direction of the

Posted by yoroy on April 23, 2010 at 2:50pm

Well, the direction of the arrows is the primary indicator of course. :)
The red just seems inappropriate for the +1.

Groups.Drupal.org sprint at Drupalcon San Francisco

Comments

highlight good content, reduce visibility of low quality content

In the groups I usually

This module was supposed to

agree on digest template

agreed

Some design feedback on the rating thingie

Red/green color blindness

patches are so very welcome :)

open issue

i concur! :-) thanks a bunch

Just wanted to agee and add another thought

thread for style discussion

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