Hi all,
We were wondering if a dedicated Drupal hiring site would be useful. At the moment jobs posts are sort of spread across a few sites, and the jobs section in g.d.o, while very useful, isn't really the best tool for the job (our own opinion, and from what we've been told).
So we thought we would create a dedicated site where you can post jobs, fixed bid projects and also apply for work and show off your Drupal dev profile. We want to keep the quality high and allow users to filter irrelevant content and spam. Most of all, we want this to be useful to the community.
In order to to this, we'd like your help in giving us a bit of input to help shape the service.
Please have a look at http://drupalhire.net and help us by answering the very short questionnaire.
Any feedback here would be welcome too!
Regards
Farez
Comments
Survey
This is a noble effort,
my advice for you is to get rid of that survey and make it optional
Optional survey
Ah, the survey is only to find out what the community needs in order to shape the product. It will be removed once the beta site is launched.
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
Great Idea
I think its a great idea. Would this be localised at all?
I believe it will be useful not only for Drupal Devs but also clients looking to start a Drupal project.
With the bidding for jobs, will this be a free service or be more so like Service Seeking?
Thanks
Hay Jaymie,
Yes, the plan does include allowing jobs and developers profiles to be filtered by location, any any other filtering criteria to make the search more relevant to you.
Indeed, it will be for both those looking for work and looking for developers.
To start with we'll let developers just reply to job ads for free, directly to employers. We want to minimise spam though, and ensure that replies are as relevant as possible to the employer/project owners, but we're not sure how to do this yet. Perhaps charge a small fee so that only 'serious' applicants will apply, or allow employers to say which location the developer should be in.
Thanks for your comments!
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
Fantastic
It think it would be great to see everything in one place.
Cool
I'm glad you think so. This all started from a real need and frustration at our end, so it's good to see we're not alone :)
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
I second that!
I think it's an awesome idea. It would also be great for freelancers or one-person shops where they may excel in one aspect(i.e. design/theming and basic development, but may need a hand with custom modules or coding. It's also nice as you are continually learning to have someone to critique your work. Have you considered something like a "Drupal Mentor Program". I have a my plate full with projects the next month or so, but I would be happy to help anyway I can in spare time(what's that?:). Just kidding, I'd make some.
Open to all
Hi,
Yes, it will be open to everyone so if you're a developer and want to find another developer to help you with a project, you should be able to post an ad for that. To start with, I think we'll have straight job ads, but we will also work towards supporting ads for skills exchange and 'help needed' type ads.
And thanks for your offer to help :)
Farez
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Definitely needed! It is very
Definitely needed!
It is very hard to hire a Drupal expert. DrupalStaffing.com is an option but is very corporate in its business model, they want a big cut of everything forever.
I would like to see something very free and very open to entry. I will take the survey soon, hopefully.
Specialist site
Hey Elijah,
Tell me about it!
Yes, there are traditional job sites out there like Drupalstaffing.com (they do more than just jobs though). We want Drupalhire to just do one thing and one thing well, and that is to help people who need good Drupal talent and good Drupal developers to find each other. I think having a dedicated site will go a long way towards achieving this.
It will certainly have a very low entry barrier to both employers and job seekers.
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
Take a look at DrupalGuru
Take a look at http://www.drupalguru.com - it also has job postings and developers can apply to these posts.
Thanks
Ah thanks for that! Haven't noticed that site. I will certainly look it up and make sure we are not reinventing the wheel with Drupalhire.
Cheers
Farez
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Cross-posting
If you really need to cross-post this to so many groups, can you let me know how to not get notification emails from a specific thread in a group I follow?
Unsubscribing
Hi cafuego. Sorry about the cross-posting. I tried to make sure the posts are all in groups for different locations so that there will be minimal overlap.
To unsubscribe to specific groups or threads, go to My Account at the top, then click on the Notifications tab, then the subscriptions subtab. You should then see a list of threads and subscriptions to edit.
Hope that helps.
Farez
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Not how that works
You don't post something into a bunch of local user groups just because you want people from all over to see it. I've removed all the groups where this is off topic.
Michelle
Only good intentions
Hi Michelle,
I'm sorry if my posts went against any use policy of the groups I posted to. It was never my intention to spam. Way before the posts were posted, I tested the idea out with various Drupal developers and Drupal forums, as well as Twitter and LinkedIn groups. I did this to make sure the idea would be relevant and of interest to everyone in the Drupal community before ultimately posting to the community at large. The 70+ survey responses from those who have read the posts on g.d.o have been really positive, as are the comments you see above.
If this is considered spam, and enough people say so, I would gladly remove it. From what I can see, so far only one reply has indicated this.
I am a Drupal developer and contribute to the Drupal community. The last thing I want to do is make enemies in the forums that I participate in professionally.
Regards,
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
Don't worry about
Don't worry about it too much. Just that, as noted above, cross posting to lots of groups ends up being "noisy". Posting it in this group and then pointing people at it via Twitter etc. to continue the discussion is probably best practice. Cheers!
Top point
Hi Boris,
Your suggestion is a brilliant one. I think I see what Michelle and you are saying and your tip would be a much better approach.
Thank you for that!
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
Not spam
I don't consider it to be spam; you just cross posted into way too many groups, most of which are local user groups. LUGs are meant to be groups for the actual physical local user groups. If everyone cross posted their posts into a bunch of LUGs just because they wanted lots of people to see it, we'd have a mess. I left it in the consulting and business group because it makes sense and is on topic here.
Michelle
Agree
Hi Michelle,
I'm beginning to understand your point and Boris helped clarified it too. I thought, as the service itself would allow people to narrow down job posts and developers by locality, that it would be of particular interest to LUGs. I can see how this may not necessarily mean that the post should have been made in the LUGs themselves.
Apologies if I have offended anyone. All the posts were made with the best of intentions.
Regards,
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
List by expertise
This site looks awesome. It is never easy to find "good" developers. And would be nice to have a place to list my own Consulting business where people can find me by my expertise.
Consider making categories for people to find developers/consultants by:
- Industry Experience (Colleges sites, Attorney sites, etc.)
- Technology Experience (Migrations, Solr integration, etc.)
- Feature Experience (Membership sites, Blogging sites, etc.)
Jason
Nice ideas
Hi Jason,
Those are good suggestions. I also personally would want to be able to filter in only relevant developers/applicants. A developer and company profile area sounds good too.
Thanks for your input. It's much appreciated.
Farez
http://onsavvy.com - showcase your Drupal professional profile
BTW
If you want to get the word out, you may want to contact folks here: http://groups.drupal.org/available-for-hire . As long as you aren't charging for listing (I didn't look that close), I doubt anyone would consider it spamming considering they are posting on the page trying to get themselves known.
Michelle
Thank you
Hi Michelle,
That's a good idea - not sure I remember seeing that group. Thanks for the tip.
Cheers,
Farez
ps Your Coulee Region site looks like a very lively online community!
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It's not a group; just a wiki page I started to answer all the people who kept asking me if I knew anyone who was available. :)
CRO lively? Now there's a couple of words I don't usually see in the same sentence... LOL!
Michelle
We're live, but with a different name :)
Well it took a while (I should have kept a note of where I posted discussions on this!).
Thanks again to strangebike, jaymiejones86, emerygjr, g76, Elijah Lynn, gloscon, Michelle, Boris Mann, jrambeck for the input above.
If you've not heard about it yet, we're now live at http://drupal.onsavvy.com. We've taken all your comments above on board and are slowly rolling out features that hopefully encapsulate your ideas and suggestions. There's lots to do!
I'd like to invite you now to create your professional Drupal profiles on http://drupal.onsavvy.com. More than anything, I'd like to hear your thoughts on it too! In particular:
and
Let me know here, or on the Feedback form at the borrom of the site, or message me on Drupal Savvy!
Farez
My Savvy profile: http://drupal.onsavvy.com/profile/farez-rahman
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