CMS

I'd welcome your thoughts on the positives and negatives of both systems that extend drupal for publishers.

My situation is that I've installed the France 24 AEF modules on my development non-production site but don't know how to use them, make them visible.

I'm considering OpenPublishApp also (instead, i.e not co-existing with France24) but haven't tried it yet.

My initial thoughts are:

France24:
Positives:
- proof of concept with France24: high-traffic news site
- substantial suite of modules designed with journalists in mind to add content easily with minimum training

Lets hear some drupal websites in Tanzania. Not just websites but great websites

Something troubles me and I'm seeking other opinions. Some of you likely have heard about a Portland-based CMS called concrete5. I did a lot of due-diligence before deciding to use Drupal myself, but regardless of that decision my job requires that I be aware of and agnostic about some other good CMS too. c5 being local made them doubly interesting. As a result I looked at c5 a couple of times, reading reviews, talking to their people, watching videos, etc. The short version is, c5 started in 03 as a proprietary CMS and moved to FOSS in 08. Fans of c5 often call it a very nice, easy-to-use little CMS good for small/simple sites, with limited add-ons (modules), about half of which you have to pay for (similar to Joomla).

My concern stems from the conversations I've had with their people and the public statements they make on email lists and on their website. Their commentary is framed in unsubstantiated and inaccurate "Drupal and Joomla suck" language, more than in "this is what makes us great" language. In general, the more someone talks down a competitor, the more threatened by that competitor you know they are. However, as I understand it, it's generally considered really bad form to badmouth other FOSS projects, particularly at the organizational level, and it is certainly bad form to negatively misrepresent them.

For an example, read concrete5's About page and you get:

"Systems like Drupal and Joomla were designed by and for developers. Building and maintaining a site in Drupal or Joomla is pretty complex and intimidating for someone who can't program computers. Imagine having to call a consultant every time you wanted to write a new Word document. How useful is that to your business?"

Now we can all see some truth in this as Drupal has been harder to learn than many and UX has been an issue, but even taking this into account, I feel that at best this is misleading, possibly just uninformed, at worst it is blatant dishonesty. I'm wondering if I'm just being too literal or something, but let me explain how it appears to me. All CMS are designed for end-users, not developers, but c5 make it sound as if their rivals wrote CMS for use by only programmers, which is illogical. Being designed to make it easy for programmers to extend and having mediocre UX is very different from being designed for programmers. They make it sound like only coders are able to use Drupal and Joomla, which again is a falsehood as both have many site-creators with no coding skills. I myself was introduced to Drupal by my wife, a designer, and she was introduced to it by another designer. Yes, to fully get Drupal's power you need some code, and theming involves some PHP, but my understanding is that C5 shares this limitation. The 2nd last line seems diabolical, implying that only a coder can change Drupal and Joomla content, i.e. that they are not CMS at all. They then go on to have a similar go at Wordpress.

So, am I overreacting? To put it in some perspective, this all came to the forefront for me after even worse comments came up during a conversation on the PDXPHP list, where c5's CEO, Franz, said things like, "it's just as powerful as both (Drupal and Joomla)," which to me it clearly is not, given that they have 157 add-ons (modules), a tiny fraction of what Drupal and Joomla have. In a subsequent email, he also said the following, "Sure, there's over 3000 add-ons in Drupal's marketplace but many of them straight up don't work, and the majority will have compatibility issues if you have more than one installed. Their add-ons are intended to be used by site developers, not site owners, so you're taking a gamble any time you see something you'd like installed." The only shred of truth I see in that is that there are indeed many modules that don't work and I definitely think we need more quality control there, but even then he makes it sound like a much bigger issue than it is. Aside from that it seems like a collection of outrageous falsehoods to me.

I'd really like to hear some of your thoughts on this.

I hope I am posting this in the right place - pardon me if I have "done wrong".

I am interested in Drupal as a CMS. I have been combing the web to locate and meet skilled and experienced Drupal developers to identify those who would be interested in working together on a start-up. Am I in the right place? If not, could someone nudge me in the right direction? It would be great if anyone knew of regular meetings where I could attend and meet these types of individuals - preferrably Orange County or the Inland Empire.

Thanks in advance!

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Hi all, new here, although I've managed and modified a drupal site in the past (no longer active,) this is the first time I've thought of joining any group project here. I've got 23 years development experience for various business applications, with quality assurance, and project management thrown in. I'm our churches Vision Planning Team, which is what actually led me her.

I found a book at Barnes & Noble on church development, so I bought it. The gal at the checkout counter suggested I take a look at geeks and god. And they have their webcast about the drupal church distribution.

The Texas State Historical Association, a nonprofit educational organization which recently moved from Austin to Denton (on the UNT campus), is preparing to rebuild their large website which consists of over 200,000 pages, and is visited by millions of people every year. The largest part of the job will be rebuilding the Handbook of Texas Online, which consists of over 25,000 articles on people, places, events, historical themes, institutions, and a host of other topic categories.

What experience do you have working with CMS solutions in Iraq? How well does the Arabic and Kurdish work?

I'm beginning a project which will primarily be in English but eventually, Arabic and Kurdish support will be needed.

After a the nightmare "eZpublish", Edipresse launch yesterday the online edition of 24heures.ch and www.tdg.ch with DRUPAL.

The new site under DRUPAL are :

http://www.24heures.ch

and

http://www.tdg.ch

This website follow two other early re-launch or launch of edipresse's website :

http://www.femina.ch

and

http://www.lesquotidiennes.com

First impression are excellent.

The scalability and the usuability of the system seems to be very good.

hi to all pinoy developers/newbies/enthusiasts. Now lng me nagjoin...its nice seeing the community increasing in numbers