Tokyo or Saitama Group

Hi Shaun,

I'm not in Japan yet, but I'll be moving to Tokyo for work in the next 2 ~ 3 months (if the company can get the visa thing done on time...) I'll definitely help organize group events when I get there!

Here at HKDUG, we've been really active since a bunch of us got together in the last BarCamp event. I hope I can help bridge our HK group with Japan's Drupalers!

Cheers,
Nick

Hi all. I'm a Tokyoite, and would be happy to meet other Drupaloids in the city. Kids at home make scheduling tough, but I'm open to ideas.

Timothy

A site by, of, and for the Drupal beginner: http://www.drupalace.com

Do we have a group yet, or its it just two maybes..and two that live in Japan?

This is sad.

Hi everyone. I'm Mori, a London-based Drupaller. I'll be back in Japan for few weeks in April (I'm originally from Japan). I'll be in Kanto area between 3-6th of April. Would any of you be available around that time for a meet up?

It would be nice to be able to have access to the internet so maybe we can do the first half at some cafe with wifi, then go to izakaya afterwards.

If you want to find more people to come along, we can post about the drop-in at drupal.jp / j-box / mixi's Drupal community.

Hi Mori,

Count me it. It would be a great time love to meet up with you guys. It would also be a good time to get people involved in a new site we have for Drupal and Japan, http://www.drupalconvideo.com, also getting a beer would be great after.

Regards,

Shaun

Latest Drupal Sites : http://www.jalss.com , http://www.mo-la.com, http://www.drupalconvideo.com

こんにちは。僕は一応日本語が母語なので、通訳できますよ。
日本なので、できれば英語ができないということで気後れするような集まりにはしたくないですね。その逆も避けたいですけど。
残念ながら僕は４日まで東京入りしませんが、もちろん僕抜きで集まるというオプションもあります。
できれば４日に設定したいと思っていますが如何でしょうか。

訂正：３日に東京入りでした。

(translation)

Japanese is my mother tongue so I can translate for you.
Since we'll be meeting in Japan, I wouldn't want Japanese speakers to shy away from participating for not being fluent in English (or vice versa).
Unfortunately I won't be in Tokyo until the 4th, but if you of course have an option to get together without me.
Personally I would like to schedule it for the afternoon / evening on the 4th. Any thoughts?

correction: i'll be in tokyo from the 3rd.

森さん　皆さまへ
お気づかいありがとうございます。
日本語でも参加OKとのことですので、4/4（土）で構いません。
その日の最終で大阪へ戻らなければならないため、
開催時間によっては途中で抜けることもありますが、
ぜひ参加させていただきたいと思います。
私とメンバーもう１人　計２名で参加します。
よろしくお願いいたします！

ーー
Hi Mori and Everyone,

Thank you for careing about us.
4th of April is OK for us, since participation in Japanese is OK :-)
We need to catch the last train to Osaka on a same day, so we may leave
earlier.
I and business partener, total two person will join you.
See you soon.

Ok, I think the 4th will be good for everyone then.
Shall we decide what time and where?

Is anyone planning to give a presentation, or would this be more of a casual meetup?

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じゃあ４日がみんなにとって一番都合が良さそうですね。
時間と場所を決めましょうか。

プレゼンしたい人います？それとももっとくだけた感じの集まりにします？

I will be good to go at that time. Anywhere any time should be ok. I have an E-mobile card, if anyone has the incite on how to tether it, we could connect through that.

If anyone has a topic they want to learn, then we could go over some things, or just meet and get to know each other is good too.

Regards,

Shaun

Just came back to Japan last night. The worst flight ever. The best nap ever afterwards though.

Scott - thanks for suggesting some venues. Although Office Himiko looks good, I don't think this meetup will be a formal one so a meeting room may not be necessary. I also prefer to have some background noise to make it less intimidating especially since it won't be formal :p

I think the hotel in Shinagawa will work well for us. Shall we meet there at 5?

FYI I have an account with Yahoo! BB's mobile broadband thing, so any McDonald's, Doutor, Renoir and other places so if the hotel lounge turns out to be unavailable / rubbish, we can probably find another venue nearby.

Here's a directory of the access points (can't find the English version unfortunately)
http://bbmp.softbanktelecom.co.jp/business/wlan/area_list/index.html

Hi guys, I'm Pawel, a Drupal dev from Poland working for a company in west Tokyo. Not a dev by heart ;) but drifted into development because that seems to be where I'm needed now. Just found this group. I hope I will be able to join you on the 4th! Great to see there are active drupalistas in the big Mikan.

All right. Mori has expressed that a hotel lobby might be more convenient so I`ll repost the hotel I suggested as the link in my previous post happened to be broken.

http://www.intercontinental-strings.jp/english/access/on_foot_a.html

Anyone else want to suggest where to meet? Anyone know a hotel with convenient lobby?

Scott

Hi all, my names Jonny originally from the UK, new drupal but keen to get to the nitty gritty!
look forward to meeting you guys!

Shinagawa is good for me.

Hi I'm Kayskay, a newbie drupaler.
Drupal is a great CMS, but it's just too difficult to find guiding information.
It's great to know how experts are working on it.
Here is a website I'm making.
http://www.comejapan.com/

This is a translation of Scott's suggestion. I'll be posting this to mixi and other sites:

（以下はスコットの提案の訳です）
提案：

１．１７−１８：００　ー　以下の品川のホテルのロビー
http://www.intercontinental-strings.jp/english/access/on_foot_a.html

２．１８：１５−２０：００　ー　居酒屋に移動（当日に決定。品川でなら問題ないでしょう）

３．カラオケボックスまたはバー等を探す。ラップトップを持ってくる人が居るのであれば、カラオケボックスはいいかもしれない。

その後状況によっては新宿に行くかもしれません。
この提案について意見があれば教えてください。

Hi,

As to the official language:

"Can I also make a suggestion? Considering this drop-in will be held in Japan, I would like to make Japanese as the official language and broken English as the common language of this meet up. All native English speakers will be asked to be patient with non-natives and also speak in plain and clear English"

I don't really see the need for this.

I tried to set this meet up as just a casual meeting, for people who are intrested in Drupal, and are in Japan. I don't feel there needs to be an official language, just be who you are and come as you are. I am sure we will all try to be respectful to people and what they can understand, but to make this "official", I don't see the need.

Not trying to sound rude here, but its a casual meeting, and I think at 1st, we should just leave it at that.

Regards,

Shaun

I live in Shiga (next to Kyoto), but just finished scrounging up enough money to make it to Tokyo for the 4th and am really looking forward to swapping ideas, and pow-wowing with all of you about Drupal.

It's only a few days until the 4th, but since several people have mentioned they'd like to learn more about using Drupal at the meet-up, what do you guys think about structuring a portion of the meetup for short site intros and a few short informal presentations / mini-workshops with Q&As...

Site-intros are great b/c they show the range of sites and functionality you can build with Drupal and provide everyone an opportunity to ask the site's creator what modules she used and/or how she built it: say like 10 minutes per person for site introductions & Q&A (we could adjust the time based on how many people have sites they'd like to introduce).

And then if there are a few specific topics that people would like to dive into in more depth, a few 15 min. informal mini-presentations / workshops could be really helpful and get discussion going. Would anyone be interested in some mini-presentations/workshops? If so, what topics? Drupal 5? Drupal 6? Drupal 7? theming? module selection? module development? Views? Views development?

I would be happy to do a short workshop on module development or selection, configuring/developing with Views, Date, Calendar, CCK, or Subdomain, contributing Drupal.org modules, or setting up a Drupal development environment if there's enough interest in one of those topics.

~6-8 site intro's and ~3 mini-workshops would take about 2 - 2 1/2 hours.

If enough people are interested in doing something like this, there's a few things that we would need to figure out ahead of time:

• translation may be helpful/necessary for site intro's and workshops: Mori-san, would you be able to help with that? could anyone else help on that end (either from Japanese -> English or visa versa)?
• an Izakaya with internet access
• a reserved room at that Izakaya with internet access and wall sockets (bonus points for a room with a wall we can project onto). Anyone up for scouting out (and reserving) a room at an Izakaya where we might be able to do this?
• a projector (could anyone bring one?)

What do you guys think? Would a couple of hours of structured time like this be helpful?

In the meantime, I'll post an event with signups enabled so that we can get a better idea of how many people can make it. Please sign up if you can come :-).

僕は滋賀県（京都の近く）にすんでいます。４月4日に東京に行けるようになって皆さんと一緒にDrupalについて話したり、学んだりするのをとても楽しみにしています。
このmeetupでDrupalの使い方を学びたいと何人かおっしゃっていますので、Meetupの時間の一部をとってサイトの紹介とミニワークショップ・プレゼンテーションをしたらどうですか？

サイトの紹介では、Drupalを使ってどんなサイトを作れるか、サイトの構成についてサイトの作者に聞いたりすることができるので、勉強になると思います。

そして、Drupalの使い方に関してもっと知りたいトピックがありましたら、いくつかの１５分ぐらいのミニプレゼンテーションは役に立つのではないかと思います。皆さん、Drupalに関して、もっと知りたいトピックがありますか？例えば：Drupal 5? Drupal 6? Drupal 7? テーマ？モジュールの選択、モジュールのDevelopment?　Viewsのモジュールの使い方かDevelopment? 他に？

わたしはDrupalを２年使っていてミニワックショップ・プレゼンテーションができます。

６つ～８つの１０分のサイトの紹介と３つの１５分ぐらいのミニワークショップ・プレゼンテーションは２時間半ぐらいかかると思います。

するなら、準備が必要です。

• ワークショップをする人がbilingualじゃないと通訳があったら助かると思います。通訳ができるボランティアがいますか？
• 無線インタネットできる居酒屋が必要です。
• 人数が６人以上でしたら、予約した方がいいと思います。無線インタネットとコンセントのある居酒屋の部屋がベスト。そういう居酒屋の部屋を見つけて予約できるボランティアがいますか？
• プロジェックタ　（誰かが持って行けますか？）

どう思いますか。

とりあいず、groups.drupal.org/japanでサインアップできるエベントを作成します。出席できましたら、サインアップしてください。

Just read through the thread more carefully and realized everyone's shooting for something more informal.
If no one's keen on site-intro's / mini-workshops, no worries. I'm just happy to meetup :-) What do you guys think?

Thanks to all for recent added comments. Should we do formal presentations or keep it an informal gathering? Tough question. My take:

For a first meeting, a formal structure is difficult; we don't know each other, and thus don't really know everyone's interests, level of experience, and so on. On the other hand, a serious presentation or two would be interesting!

Once the group is gathered and settled, how about these three activities, in order:

1. Quick round of self-introductions, including brief experience with Drupal. Everybody participates. 1-2 minutes/person.
   No equipment/preparation required.

2. Site overview. Pick a site or two, show what you're doing, answer questions. Volunteers only. 10 minutes/person?
   Proper presentation space (projector, etc.) would be nice, but just laptop, network connection, and loud voice may be enough.

3. Detailed presentation (mini-workshop). Volunteers only. 15-20 minutes each?
   Proper presentation space (projector, etc.) required.

It'd be great if at least one person is willing to do #3, though it'd be best to suggest your topic, and the time required, in this thread. That way we'll find out how much total time is needed for the longer presentations, and make sure that people don't duplicate the same topic, or pick a topic that's too much too hard or too easy for the group.

Or does anybody have a topic you'd like to see a presentation on? Suggest it here, and maybe someone else will say "sure, I can do that".

I myself am happy to do #2 (site overview).

Final question: Sorry if I missed it, but did someone volunteer to be de facto leader for all this? Best to have one final decision-maker!

re lost people, late arrivals (very considerate of you, drupalace!): call me at 080-3983-0153 I'll try not to be late...
I'll also tweet (ID: dokumori) as long as wifi is available and I remember to tweet.

＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝＝

迷子になった人、遅れて到着する人は、僕のケータイに電話してください(drupalace、気が利くねえ！)：　080-3983-0153 僕自身が遅れないようにします。。。
Twitterにも投稿します。wifiがある場所に居て、投稿することさえ忘れなければ。

duh, sorry I wasn't aware you were the organiser :p
You've just found a new member though - Kyoko is based in Osaka!

setvikさん、はじめまして。
大阪から参加するkyoko＆qchanといいます。
関西で活動されている方と知り合えるのはとてもうれしいです。
サイト拝見しました。すてきなサイトですね。どのようにして作られているのか大変興味があります。
教えて欲しいことも沢山あるので、お会いするのを楽しみにしています。

無線LANは持って行きますからどこでもネット出来ますよ。

dokumori さん
紹介してくれてありがとう！('-^*)/

sfujさん
私達にはこの歌なんかを聴いていると「ジューポー」に聞こえます（笑）
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-s3DRZJKY

↓English↓

It's good to see you Setvik-san
We are Kyoko and Qchan from Osaka, so getting to know who is working in
Kansai is very nice.
I saw your web site. It is nice site. I'm very interested in how it was
built.
I have a lot of thing that I want you to teach me.
I'm looking forward to see you soon.

I have portable WiFi station so everyone can connect if EMobile is in
service.

dokumori
Thanks for your introducing!

sfuj
For us, this song sound "JuuuPooo" :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ-s3DRZJKY

Garett thanks for the "ドルーパル" reference.

Kyoko-san,

日本語で正確にDrupalの発音は書けない様な気がしてきました。”duru”って超早く言ってその後続きで”ルーパル”って言ったような感じです。日本語の”R”と”L”の対応は今のところ永遠のテーマですね。文字化け対策も似た感じで９９．９％個人的に解決できたのですが残り０．１％、たぶんSJISとかで機能する日本人のDB対応とかで私は目が点です（大手は解決できないパターンとか一つ一つマニアルに対応してるのでしょうか？）。

summary trans + alpha:
I've got J encoding issues figured 99.9% but I am starting to give up on dealing with those who post into databases in probably SJIS encoding(send SJIS email etc..). I wonder if the major corporations are manually converting specific text patterns one by one to deal with what feels like a last inch problem in order to perfectly deal with J encodings. I also have what seems like French fonts that don't get inserted correctly into DB, I am wondering what is going on..

ジューパルですか：） LOL
まだまだ続きそうですね...

Scott

Hi, It's good to see you.
I'm Isa of GIM inc in Tokyo Japan.
We are authors of a first Japanese version of the Drupal handbook.
Thank you dokumori-san!
What a wonderful meeting!

Please add 3 people to this meething.

Member name is isa, kagawa ( Please call kaga-san), torihata ( Please call tori-san).
We might be able to inform the business of Drupal in Japan.

I'm looking forward to see you soon.
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はじめまして、私は東京のGIMという会社のIsaといいます。
私たちの会社は、日本で最初のDrupal解説本を出した会社です。
http://www.webgogo.jp

dokumoriさんありがとうございます。
素敵な集まりですね。

３人ほど加えてもらえますでしょうか？
名前はisaとカガワ君、トリハタ君（カガちゃん、トリちゃんで結構です）
日本におけるDrupalのビジネス状況が話せるかもしれません。
お会いするのを楽しみにしています。

（日本語も英語もわかりにくくてすみません。参加はまだ大丈夫でしょうかね。。）

My job is Drupal evangelist. :-)

I'm Shin living in Kanagawa pref. near Tokyo.　(Not so near, I suppose)
I'm very new to this group and also to Drupal itself.

I have a blog site constructing with Movable Type but am planning to move it to a new site using Drupal.
And I have to make some sites using Drupal too (to tell the truth, I'm a kinda web designer)

But, there are few information about Drupal in Japanese, so I want a chance to discuss about Drupal here in Japan.

Maybe I can go to this meeting. I'm looking forward to see everyone here, too.

(from here in Japanese)
@dokumori@drupal.org さん

http://drupal-jbox.net/?q=node/367 にお書きになったものを拝見しました。
Groups.Drupal に参加していなかったものですから、書き込んでいただかなかったらこのミーティングを知らずに終わるところでした。
本当にありがとうございます！

まだ行けるか完全にはわからないのですが、ぜひとも都合をつけて参加したいと思います。
＃実は、仕事じゃないのですが、個人的に一番の趣味のイベントがまさにその時間に(^^ゞ

ただ、英語でも書いたのですが、一応Web制作を生業とはしているもののそんなに大したものはやってませんし、プログラミング関連は本当にまったくのドシロウトで、そんな人間が参加していいのか（話についていけるのか）どうか迷ってたりします。
まあ、とはいえ、なにごとも Try だと思っていますが(^^ゞ
おてやわらかにどうぞよろしくお願いいたします。

@Isa さん

その本を買わせていただいたものです。
冗談抜きで枕元まで離さずに持ち歩いていますが、正直言って理解できないことも多々あります。ちょうどお会いできたら、その辺のざっくばらんな感想（不満も(^^;;）を話させていただけたら、なんて思っています。

そもそも（上述したようにレベルが低過ぎて）あの本の対象になっていない人間かもしれないんですが（汗
とにかくよろしくお願いいたします。

@kyoko さん

最近Drupalに興味を持ち出してサイトを作っていますが、その可能性に驚いています。

僕もです。・・・僕の場合、まだ“作っている”というレベルに達していませんけど。あまりにすご過ぎるという感じです。
特に、モジュール界の両巨頭？ CCK と Views を知ったときは驚愕しました（大げさですけど、本当に）。
でも、CCK はなんとか使い方がわかったものの（もちろんすべてじゃないですけど）、Views はあまりに難しくて、いま挫折しかかってたりします（笑）。

とにかく、英語のところにも書きましたけど、日本語での情報がまだまだ少なく（5年前くらいの Movable Type を取りまく状況みたいな感じ？）、同じように思っている方々といろいろざっくばらんに話せたらと思っています。
どうぞよろしくお願いいたします。

@setvik

Views? Views development?

I just wrote in the comment to kyoko-san, I'm very interested in and astonished at "CCK & Views".
I soon learn how to use CCK (of course, not all of them).
But as to Views, though I somehow know the strongness about it, but don't understand how to use it.

So, personally I'm eager to learn how to use Views (with CCK).

はじめてなのに長く書いちゃいました。
文章書くのは大好きですが、人見知りのシャイだったりします。

どうぞよろしくお願いいたします。

Shaun
drupalace
Mori
Kyoko
Qchan
Scott
Pawel
Jonny
Garrett
kayskay
Setvik
Isa
Kagawa
Torihata
Kenji
Shin
netrainer

We seem to have 17 attending so far.

Hi, my designer and business partner is coming too, so make it 18. His name is Pak.

Shaun
Pak
drupalace
Mori
Kyoko
Qchan
Scott
Pawel
Jonny
Garrett
kayskay
Setvik
Isa
Kagawa
Torihata
Kenji
Shin
netrainer

Group kind of blew up here. I am sure we can make it happen, also, this is just the 1st meet, we can make it what it is. Keep it simple, get to know each other and from there, the next one we can make it more. Great to see the group growing, and linking the English and Japanese together. Good deal!

9j8 is thinking about bringing 2-3 people, so that'll be over 20. Damn, I never expected the number to be so big but it's brillant!!

Scott - we picked Shinagawa because it would be convenient for Kyoko. As long as we don't move too far away we'll be fine.

Kayskay - We can switch seats every once in a while, so it'll still be just fun even if we end up in izakaya, I'm sure :) Besides, I can't drink much and want to eat food so I can't give you much choice! :p

I think I'll go ahead and book a table somewhere in Shinagawa. I don't think we'll be able to fit anywhere otherwise. If anyone has suggestions/objections, please do call me at my mobile. Cheers!

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9j8さんが2-3人連れてくるということで、合計は２０人を超えますね。うわー、そんなに集まると思ってなかった。素晴らしい！

Scott - kyokoさんの都合で品川にしたんだけど、そんなに遠くまで移動しなければ問題ないでしょう。

kayskay - 定期的に席替えすれば、居酒屋でも楽しく過ごせるとおもいますよ :) それに、僕はあまり飲めないし食べ物も食べたいから、あまり選択の余地は与えられませんよ :p

予約でもしない限りこれだけの人数で入れるところは無いと思うので、とりあえず予約してみます。もし反対の人／提案のある人は僕のケータイに電話してください。よろしくー。

Apologies for those who do not want to go to an izakaya, but I couldn't find any other venue. I've booked a table at a izakaya called Amataro at 18:00 under Sugimoto (my surname).

http://r.gnavi.co.jp/g306078/map1.htm

So the plan is to meet at the hotel lobby at 17:00, find and chat with each other and wait for people to arrive.

Sorry if it's a bad decision, but this will probably be the last meetup in Tokyo that I'll organise, so you can find a better organiser :p
We'll get kicked out of the place after 2hrs. We can wander around to find a better venue then.

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居酒屋に行きたくなかった方ごめんなさい。でもそれ以外に良い場所をみつけられませんでした。甘太郎という居酒屋で時間は18:00から、杉本（僕の姓名）で席を予約してあります。

http://r.gnavi.co.jp/g306078/map1.htm

ということで、予定どおりホテルのロビーで17:00に集合、みんなを見つけたりみんなと話したりしながら、他の人の到着を待ちましょう。

この決定を歓迎しない人には申し訳ないのだけど、まあ僕は今後東京での集いの計画に携わることは無いと思うので、もっと良いオーガナイザーを見つけてください :p
居酒屋からは２時間程度で追い出されると思うので、その後ぶらぶらして良い場所を見つけましょう。

大変遅くなりましたがまだ間に合いますでしょうか？　mixiのほうにお知らせいただいてありがとうございました。鬼火ことfeuと申します。どうぞよろしく。
英語はおおまかなところは聞き取れますがしゃべるのがからきしで残念です。
ユーザにとって優しいwebはどんなものかをいつも考えています。仕事はサポート系中心ですがweb作成もインストラクションもやってます。いろんな人のwebやdrupalへのアプローチをお聞きできれば幸い。
それでは！

Can I submit tomorrow meeting ? too late?

Thank you very much Dokumori, to inform mixi about this meeting. I'm not good English speaker, but I can understand English, perhaps 60-70% :-)

How can we make " good " website? What is "accessibility"? I always think about it. I work mainly in service section, sometimes I accept orders to make websites or to teach lots of things about IT.

I'm looking forward to hear your various image and dream about drupal and web.

Shinです。こんにちは。
きのうはどうもありがとうございました。ほとんど門外漢のような人間でしたが、思いきって参加してよかったです。とてもインスパイアされて帰ってきました。

思わぬ多人数が集まり、すべての方と話せなかったのが残念ですけど、2回目以降にぜひぜひ。
そういえば言い出しっぺの Shaun とも話せなかったなぁ。本当にありがとうございました。

個人的には、Viewsのコツを丁寧に教えていただいた Stein、ジオどすのおもしろいプレゼンをしてくださった kyoko、本についていろいろ話させてもらった GIM の皆さんに心から感謝します。
そしてなによりちゃんとオーガナイズしてくださった（えぇ、してましたとも！）mori に最大の愛を(^_^)v

McDonald でのミニ二次会（ハワイアンとの出会い／笑）で、mori とも話したんですが、ぜひこれをきっかけにこのグループを盛り上げ、そして Drupal の日本での普及へと地道につなげて行きたいですねぇ。
僕は一番初心者なようなので（いやあもう、皆さんすごい方ばかりで）自らが“底上げされる見本”となるべく、自分なりにできることで貢献して行きたいと思います。
“提案”の発表を楽しみにしていますよ＞mori

また皆さんとお会いできるのを楽しみにしています。それまでに“なにか”具体的に始めないと(^_^)v

＃せっかく「やらねば〜！」って思わされているところなのに、うちのMac、ここ数日調子が悪かったんですが、きょうは激悪に(>_<)
＃OSのインストールからし直すか〜？（汗

（以下、英語にするのが難しいので、謝辞部分のみ）

Thank you very much for all atendees. i enjoyed yesterday's meeting very, very much.

Unfortunately, I couldn't talk to all of them because more people than expected joined there. I also couldn't talk with Shaun who first start up thi meet, so here again, I thank you very much for holding such a nice event.

Personally, thank Stein for teaching very kindly about how to use Views, your site is amazing!
and thank kyoko for talking lots of things and wonderful and interesting presentaion of Geodosu.
Also thank GIM folks for talking about Drupal books.

And love to mori for nice organization (yeah, you DID !)

Let's keep effort for activating this group and Drupal in Japan !

See you next time ! I'm lookin forward to it.

Dude's and dudette's, I enjoyed meeting you all. As a newbie I feel very motivated and feel there is much thinking to do business and coding-wise as to how to add momentum to Drupal movements in Japan. And look forward to Drupal conversations in the near future.

みんなで盛り上げていけるの楽しみにしてます。

Scott Fujikawa

遅くなりました。
kyokoさんとバタバタと新幹線に走った大阪のqchanです。

土曜はほんとに楽しい時間を過ごせました。ありがとうございます。
普段、Drupalについてはネットや本での孤独な情報あさりばかりでしたので、
みなさんとお話しできてちょっと興奮してました。

主催してくださった　dokumoriさんはじめ皆さんに感謝です。

＞dokumoriさん
オーガナイザーの役をかってくださりありがとうございました。
Acquiaのビジネススタイルにはすごく興味があります。
セキュリティの面や海外でのDrupalコミュニティの運営方法などの教えていただきたいことが山ほどあります。
ロンドンのことなども。
これからもよろしくお願いします！

＞Shaunさん　
いろいろと教えてもらってありがたかったです。もっと時間があればよかったなぁ。
またメールさせてください。
Shaun＆パクさんの作られたサイトはとても美しいデザインですね。

＞drupalaceさん　
いつもサイトを拝見している方と会えて感激です。かわいいキャラとユーモアはサイト通りの方でした。

＞Jonnyさん
電源持って来ちゃって不便掛けてごめんね！
送ったのは大阪のおみやげだよ。（笑）

GIM、Opendreamの皆さまとも知り合えたのはとても幸運でした。
これで困ったことがあっても解決できそうな目処が立ちましたので、胸をはってクライアントに
Drupalを薦められそうで心強いです。これからもよろしくお願いいたします。

関西でもこじんまりとでよいのでこんな集まりが開けたらいいなと思っています。
みなさんが関西に来られる機会があったら是非声を掛けてください！
もっともっと広まってDrupalCONが日本で開催できるようになれば素晴らしいですね！

Hey everyone,

I second Shaun's idea that we should have more meetings in the future, especially since I missed the first one :( As for me, I'd love to learn more about upgrading 5.x --> 6.x, maybe hear from some people with big sites that upgraded, as well as i18n and related issues. Is anybody good at this?

Best

Pawel

So here's what we discussed about our next meetup. Sorry it took me so long to post it.

Organising upcoming events
- Drupal Ace kindly volunteered to be the organiser. However, having a couple other co-organisers always help, as they can exchange ideas/thoughts and split tasks/responsibilities. If anyone is willing to volunteer, please contact Drupal Ace (Shawn, would you be interested?)

Structure
Shin's thoughts - since the participants' level of expertise vary, he said he would feel more comfortable if there are two types of meetups, one for beginners and another for advanced users so he wouldn't feel like he is taking up all of advanced users' time. He thought maybe having an expert's meetup as the first half, then a general one afterwards.

FYI, a user group in London used to hold two meetups every month, one for beginners and the other for developers. Although it was a lot of work for the organisers, it helped us build a solid user/developer base.
The important (and difficult) bit is to somehow get new people to come. The meetup becomes a bit less useful after an year or two. The UK group solved this problem by organising a series of themed events, such as Drupal for NGOs, enterprises, publishers, musicians, artists and so on. Some meetups became monthly, some one off or less often. They usually have a very good turn out (approx. 30-50 people) with a number of new faces.

venue
Johnny thinks it would be good to find a university which would be willing to provide a space for our meetup.

In London, companies that use Drupal / enthusiastic about supporting the community provides a venue for free. For the themed meetups, which I mentioned above, companies / organisations such as Sun Microsystems, Greenpeace UK, Amnesty International hosted the events.

(sorry, gotta go. don't have the time to translate this to Japanese atm)

I think one way to do it is to decide on which days (e.g. every 1st and 3rd Saturday etc..) and the specific time and place. And see what happens. If more than 10 people start to show up, we can start looking for sponsors towards industry and universities, which I both think are terrific ways to promote Drupal. But before that we'd need to maybe get solid presentations(1-3) going and a guy who`s good on the microphone(host).

Like we can gather at this place every (1st&3rd Saturday at 5-7pm)
http://www.officehimiko.com/newlaunge　(if nobody shows up at least the drinks are free)

Personally I dig the meeting theme, like we can have a day for newbies, days for developers, days for CCK&Views etc.. and if we ever get to a situation to ask Universities and Companies for space and free pizza :) that`d be great!

Scott

There you go:
http://groups.drupal.org/node/21190

この間はどうもありがとうございました！
英語で盛り上がっているので、頑張って英語で書かなきゃと思っているうち、
乗り遅れました…。

だから日本語でゴメンナサイ。

みんなホントにありがとうございました！
引き続き、関東盛り上がっていますね！！
関西も負けません！　来週集まるぞー

皆さんへのお礼はまた書き込みしますが、steinさんへメッセージ。

Dear.Stein
来週関西で集まりたいなーと思って、SteinのHPからメール送りました。
届いていませんか？
来週関西メンバーで会いたいのです。

kyoko.oh@gmail.com
までメール下さい。

よろしくです！

kyoko